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Author Topic: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say  (Read 1004159 times)

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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #3330 on: January 05, 2013, 12:39:46 am »

i posted this earlier
here, have fun

i skimmed it and it doesn't seem to be very obtuse, though it's 5:30 am where i'm at and i don't feel like providing a tl;dr

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« Reply #3331 on: January 05, 2013, 12:51:59 am »

i posted this earlier
here, have fun

i skimmed it and it doesn't seem to be very obtuse, though it's 5:30 am where i'm at and i don't feel like providing a tl;dr
You a physics major or something? I can readily admit that I can't really make heads nor tails of it.

What I am seeing, however, are a whole lot of "maybe"s, "could"s, and "possibly"s, without much in the way of hard data.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #3332 on: January 05, 2013, 12:56:19 am »

The speed of light in a vacuum is constant.

If light traveled at 400 million meters per second instead of 300 million~ish, it would be because either meters got shorter, or seconds got longer.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #3333 on: January 05, 2013, 01:31:58 am »

fine arts. there are some phrases i have to goggle as i go along, but i was surprised by how easily i'm being able to follow it
The speed of light in a vacuum is constant.

If light traveled at 400 million meters per second instead of 300 million~ish, it would be because either meters got shorter, or seconds got longer.

oh, thank you, i didn't know that. i guess this dude must be delusional or something. should somebody tell him that؟
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« Reply #3334 on: January 05, 2013, 01:36:15 am »

Calling him "delusional" might be a bit extreme :P

If his ideas are not backed by supporting evidence but he continues to push them, then that might be considered delusional. Otherwise, he's pushing an alternate hypothesis that, to my knowledge, has yet to be tested.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #3335 on: January 05, 2013, 01:46:20 am »

OK, the same guy just said that it's used as a creationist argument.

I've asked him if he knows what a creationist is.
The variable-speed-of-light hypothesis is (or was) used as a creationist argument. Clearly, the speed of light used to be faster, and thus the universe (and Earth) is only about 6,000 years old rather than the 14 billion according to what we can see of the universe.

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« Reply #3336 on: January 05, 2013, 02:27:16 am »

On a somewhat related note to the current topic, I would like to submit anything Kent Hovind said, EVER.
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« Reply #3337 on: January 05, 2013, 02:30:37 am »

On a somewhat related note to the current topic, I would like to submit anything Kent Hovind said, EVER.
...No words beside "Where dose he live so i can beat some sense into him"
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #3338 on: January 05, 2013, 02:37:51 am »

Last I heard, he lives in jail for tax evasion.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #3339 on: January 05, 2013, 03:41:33 am »

On a somewhat related note to the current topic, I would like to submit anything Kent Hovind said, EVER.
Not really. He isn't stupid; just very corrupt. He even managed to correctly describe evolution step by step to his audience (after then saying this proves evolution wrong admittedly(?)).
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #3340 on: January 05, 2013, 05:01:10 am »

He said Jupiter rock.
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« Reply #3341 on: January 05, 2013, 05:07:03 am »

He said Jupiter rock.
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« Reply #3342 on: January 05, 2013, 05:20:12 am »

Problem with physics is that theorical physics went well ahead of experimental physics. It worked great (look at the number of particle that were "discovered" by theory before being validated by experiment). But it's also mean that we have a lot of widely different hypothesis around that await testing. This seems to be one of them.
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« Reply #3343 on: January 05, 2013, 05:23:44 am »

Problem with physics is that theorical physics went well ahead of experimental physics. It worked great (look at the number of particle that were "discovered" by theory before being validated by experiment). But it's also mean that we have a lot of widely different hypothesis around that await testing. This seems to be one of them.
This is a problem?

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« Reply #3344 on: January 05, 2013, 05:33:02 am »

Well not really I guess. But it does mean that we can't be condescending because a physicist's pet theroy ain't supported by experiment yet.
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