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Putnam

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2430 on: September 25, 2013, 05:52:59 pm »

It's totally an elemental. It takes the form of a halfling, it isn't literally a halfling itself. It's an element of the "balance" sphere. Its physical form si a supersoldier kung-fu halfling, though, yeah :P

Nerfed it. Still kills 20 halflings without issue...

« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 05:54:57 pm by Putnam »
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2431 on: September 25, 2013, 06:03:10 pm »

That's not an elemental of balance, it's an elemental of prescience!  The best kung fu entity is the one that moves out of the way before you even know where you're going to attack!  I'd like to see what happens when one fights another. "Miss miss miss miss miss miss...."
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2432 on: September 25, 2013, 06:03:51 pm »

Now pit it against a Gifted Adherent.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2433 on: September 25, 2013, 07:16:11 pm »

Now pit it against a Gifted Adherent.

Interactions >:I

EDIT: Creeping grass works. Now to test Myomorphs.

EDIT 2: Wuh-woh. I's crashed.

EDIT 3: Fixed crash. Duplicated a LAIR token. Megabeasts are finicky as hell. Now I need to fix this:

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*** Error(s) finalizing the interaction SECRET_METAPHYSICAL_PUTNAM
Error Initializing Text: raw/objects/text/book_metaphysics_titles_dffs.txt
-snip-

This is mysterious, given that all of these texts certainly do exist.

EDIT 4: forgot ".txt" on most of them, that one has a straggling _dffs :X

EDIT 5: "Lord Brighthealing was a creature born in 1. It was of unknown parentage.

In a time before time*, Lord began wandering the depths of the world.

In 2, Lord died of old age."

*It was born in 1, though!
« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 07:39:28 pm by Putnam »
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2434 on: September 25, 2013, 08:28:28 pm »

It began wandering the depths of the world when it was still a fetus, evidently. With that kind of lifespan, it'd have to just to get some good rampages in before it developed arthritis.
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« Reply #2435 on: September 25, 2013, 08:44:22 pm »

Elements of fire crash the game in worldgen, so I'm leaving them out for now. I'm posting the raw here.

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[CREATURE:FIRE_ELEMENTAL_PUTNAM]
[NAME:element of fire:elements of fire:element of fire]
[CASTE_NAME:element of fire:elements of fire:element of fire]
[DESCRIPTION:A living ball of fire.]
[CREATURE_CLASS:ALL][CREATURE_CLASS:INCORPOREAL][CREATURE_CLASS:SPIRIT][CREATURE_CLASS:ELEMENTAL]
[BIOME:ANY_DESERT]
[MEGABEAST]
[LAIR:SHRINE:100]
[LARGE_PREDATOR]
[CREATURE_TILE:'o'][CASTE_TILE:'o']
[COLOR:4:0:1]
[NO_DIZZINESS][NO_CONNECTIONS_FOR_MOVEMENT][NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_FEVERS][NO_GENDER][NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN][NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST][NO_SLEEP][NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT][NOBONES]
[NOBREATHE][NOEMOTION][NOEXERT][NOFEAR][NOMEAT][NONAUSEA][NOPAIN][NOSKIN][NOSKULL][NOTHOUGHT][NOSTUN][NOT_BUTCHERABLE][NOT_LIVING][PARALYZEIMMUNE][FIREIMMUNE_SUPER][EXTRAVISION]
[SPEED:500]
[IMMOLATE]
[GRASSTRAMPLE:100]
[ATTACK_TRIGGER:110:10000:100000]
[PREFSTRING:firiness]
[BODY:TREELORD]
[BODYGLOSS:GENERIC_1PART_BODY_GLOSS_PUTNAM]
[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Shoot fireball]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
[CDI:FLOW:FIREBALL]
[CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:15]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:300]
[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Spray jet of fire]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
[CDI:FLOW:FIREJET]
[CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:5]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:300]
[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Shoot dragonfire]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
[CDI:FLOW:DRAGONFIRE]
[CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:15]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:600]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:FIRE:SOIL_TEMPLATE_LKR]
[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:NONE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:FIRE:SOLID]
[TISSUE:FIRE]
[TISSUE_NAME:fire:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:FIRE]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
[HEALING_RATE:3000]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:STRANDS]
[MUSCULAR]
[VASCULAR:100]
[ARTERIES]
[CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:FIRE]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:60000]
[FANCIFUL]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
[POWER]
[SUPERNATURAL]

EDIT: 'sit okay if I change this:

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reaction_kopout

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:PREPARE_APPLE_TREES_KPT]
   [NAME:prepare apple trees]
   [BUILDING:LUMBERYARD:CUSTOM_A]#a for apple
   [AUTOMATIC]
   [SKILL:CARPENTRY]
   [REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_HLG:STRUCTURE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WOOD:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_WOOD_KPT:APPLE_WOOD]
   [PRODUCT:100:2:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]
   [PRODUCT:50:1:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]   
   [PRODUCT:25:1:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]

to this:

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reaction_kopout

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:PREPARE_APPLE_TREES_KPT]
   [NAME:prepare apple trees]
   [BUILDING:LUMBERYARD:CUSTOM_A]#a for apple
   [AUTOMATIC]
   [SKILL:CARPENTRY]
   [REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_HLG:RAW_APPLE_TREE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WOOD:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_WOOD_KPT:APPLE_WOOD]
   [PRODUCT:100:2:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]
   [PRODUCT:50:1:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]   
   [PRODUCT:25:1:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]/code]

? After all, the former doesn't work; the latter does.

EDIT 2: I know I've still got a couple days, but I'm pretty much done over here. Can't really think of anything to add and I'm satisfied with what I've got.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 10:43:18 pm by Putnam »
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2436 on: September 26, 2013, 12:08:30 am »

Consider adding the mamaphint fixes in the Wiki, and contributions. I'd really like you to include those hound and bird sounds I posted earlier. And how about leather armor for halfllings?: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127552.msg4459378;topicseen#msg4459378

Does the apple tree reaction work now? If not, please fix before uploading. Would be super.

Anyone got anything else?

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2437 on: September 26, 2013, 12:10:23 am »

So...

When the new version comes out, are you guys going to try to revamp everything you made?
Or are you going to go at it from scratch again?
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« Reply #2438 on: September 26, 2013, 12:18:09 am »

Why not both?
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« Reply #2439 on: September 26, 2013, 12:20:11 am »

So...

When the new version comes out, are you guys going to try to revamp everything you made?
Or are you going to go at it from scratch again?
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« Reply #2440 on: September 26, 2013, 12:37:48 am »

We've put too much work into these ideas to totally scrap them. Plus, the body structures should be fine. We'll just need to rework the attacks and movement speeds, is all. It's the plants and entities that will need the most work, really.

Halfling, my upload already fixes Mamaphint spelling errors. "Golden Mamaphints" they are, currently.
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« Reply #2441 on: September 26, 2013, 12:50:06 am »

And how about leather armor for halfllings?: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127552.msg4459378;topicseen#msg4459378

Does the apple tree reaction work now? If not, please fix before uploading. Would be super.

Anyone got anything else?

Done, fixed.

contributions. I'd really like you to include those hound and bird sounds I posted earlier.

I'm guessing you mean contributions from the wiki? Also, hound and bird sounds? Can't quite found them. I think I found the hound ones, but I'm not sure how you'd want them put together.

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« Reply #2442 on: September 26, 2013, 01:34:34 am »

I've settled on a design for the knights. They'll have the plate armor as other BP's, which won't protect from direct attacks (because "around" bp's don't cover limbs) but will provide distract AI combatants from the vitals. The actual BP's will have 2 "mail" tissue layers for actual protection. Perhaps the torso itself can be [INTERNAL] to a cuirass, but I'm not decided whether or not to do that yet.

There will be several castes, all male but each with a different weapon "body part". I'm thinking a spear caste, a sword caste, and maybe an axe or lance caste.
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« Reply #2443 on: September 26, 2013, 05:09:44 am »

And how about leather armor for halfllings?: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127552.msg4459378;topicseen#msg4459378

Does the apple tree reaction work now? If not, please fix before uploading. Would be super.

Anyone got anything else?

Done, fixed.

contributions. I'd really like you to include those hound and bird sounds I posted earlier.

I'm guessing you mean contributions from the wiki? Also, hound and bird sounds? Can't quite found them. I think I found the hound ones, but I'm not sure how you'd want them put together.

Here http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127552.msg4629786;topicseen#msg4629786

Please add those as files, the three variations for hounds into feral hounds (creature_hugol) and the bird one into tits. Thanks!

Mamaphints have more bugs than just spelling. See wiki: bugs investigating.

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« Reply #2444 on: September 26, 2013, 01:53:09 pm »

Mamaphints gaining mayoral positions is a rare bug, perhaps not worth fixing as it can be amusing. For profession, I'd suggest strand extractor, which is currently not used by anything in our mod, and have it be blank, because having them all be called "Golden Mamaphint Beast" just sounds odd and redundant. Sounds like "It's a beast that's like a Mamaphint but gold."

Limiting the mayor to certain castes may have other unintended consequences. Why not reduce the rate gain of Mamaphint social skills? Those are what gets them elected.
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