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[Meph]

I'd make catapult ammo with ProjectileExpansion. When they hit something, you get a cloud of gas. It works, I tested that, can probably find the raws if you want. Its a new thing, AoE ammo for catapults, makes people use the manual aiming more, and doesnt start fires. (unlike the exploding/fire ammo)

[smakemupagus]

The non-playable races too now that I think about it, but that would be a bigger project.

Yep, well at the rate things are going these days it will be enough work to keep up with the playable races  

[smakemupagus]

Progress report - may update over the weekend

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V6.0.OF1

* Orcs grow to full size when they reach MDF adulthood (5)
* Mumakil have tougher skin and are more pain resistant (like Ologs)
* Bugfix: stickbomb usage hint (Attack)
* Remove NO_AGING (which doesn't exist?) from orcish magics
* Balance (nerf): ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD replaces ITEM_SHIELD_KITE domestic, nethermill
*! Factory can still make both
* Continuity: remove kobold bola thrower from tribal crafter
*- Add domestic atlatl
*- Remove S&S atlatl
*- Expand S&S javelin options
*- Falcon society is now spear and atlatl ("peltast") - mod item and reac
* Balance (buff): Dawnstar & Evenstar enchants req only dreamtali, not soulgem
* Warclaws striker skill rather than dagger
* Damasc mithril battle & great axes; reax & entity
* Balance (buff) Bazaars require less furnature, added gold and silver bars, only Shadowbroker still requires human captive
*! Should be able to build on average, at least one bazaar per successful merchant shipping raid (more if you melt coins)
* Arcane forge uses weaponsmithing for "forge" reax.  "weave" reax are still runesmithing
* Continuity: cavebear society use dwarven axe
* Remove redundant "corsair arms" weapon item
*- Revert freelancer sales to pistol
*- Allow freelancers to add dagger to pistol to create ITEM_WEAPON_AIRGUN_BAY
* Balance (buff) increase rare loots for high-end gambling at tavern
*! Silver loot (gems) added additionally to gold stakes table
*! Silver and Gold loot (maps, longboats) added additionally to platinum stakes table (prisoners, raidgear)
* Dwarf Laborer can additionally mine for coal; reac and entity
* Human Laborer can additionally fence counterfeit tin, zinc, or lead coins for real shillings

* Simplify all foreign toolkits to a single type ITEM_TOOL_KIT_OUTLAND
*! Affects a number of reaction reagents; products of raids, bazaars, etc.

V6.0.EF1

* Art for elf buildings, mostly by Meph
* Adapted K33N's elves to MDF professions

Experimental changes

* Fix: Revert dreamcatcher materials to MDF3.x version
* Fix: Revert dreamwalker specialization and spell learn reax to MDF3.x version

To do:

* Elf Laborer compost
* Drow Laborer poison?
* Turn dreamcatchers/masks into item itemsyndrome if previous fix was not enough - material itemsyndrome seems to be wonky these days?
? Reconsider some of Oracle's spells
? Consider boosting or changing utility of labor cells (esp. human and dwarf?)
* Add gnome barbarian tech building? labor cell?
* Something to do with warpstone (acid? fuel? transmutation? become dreamwalker?)
* Allow tobacco smoking at the outlander Tavern or orcish Meadhall?
* fix graphics of bloodforge. consider adding some more things to do there (only ~3 reactions?)
? Make industrial orc buildings require power (steamfurnace, factory, etc.)
* Actually work on Elf fortress mode

[Splint]

Gnome Labor Cell: Power Armor Workshop

Requires some form of tool kit (either gnomish ones or a generic one I'd guess,) and a gnome captive, as well as a firesafe block and an anvil to build (to heat metal sheets, provide a solid place to put in rivets, stuff like that.)
Requires power to operate.
Uses Engineering or maybe armoring to run reactions and determine quality.
Produces "Ramshackle steamarmor," or some variation thereoff which provides benefits similar to regular gnomish steam armor if I'm guessing right, but the effects are less pronounced and its not nearly as protective, representing the gnome deliberately making sub-par equipment for his captors; not that the orcs would notice, since any gnome armor they've gotten their hands on probably comes in "mangled-bits-of-wreckage" format.

May also possibly be usable to make gnomish robotic pets, though they'd require some special tool taken from gnomish workshops in raids.

It'd be very useful for snaga and dreamwalkers, giving them physical abilities comparable to above average common orcs/corsairs and giving common orcs/corsairs physical abilities on par with an above average uruk. Uruks/Ronin and Ologs, being the huge brutes they are, wouldn't gain benefits from it since they're already the superior castes (sort of anyway, for the ologs...) due to thier size and their likely general sense of superiority.

After all, only weak orcs need fancy outlander gizmos to make themselves strong!

[heydude6]

Wait, what's so special about ronin again, I read their descriptions but they don't give enough information.

[Splint]

Wait, what's so special about ronin again, I read their descriptions but they don't give enough information.

Clanless(?) wandering uruks who have bonuses to what would be considered martial skills of the samurai: Archery and swordsmanship. In contrast, regular uruks are less specialized and don't learn those skills any faster than other orcs (if I'm not mistaken.)

Likewise, Corsairs are common orcs with natural affinity for firearms, engineering/siege engine use, and appraisal.

[smakemupagus]

They also have over-the-top physical attributes (str/agi/tough/recup), even more so than a regular Uruk.

I dunno, I think the description has about the right amount of information.  The defaults are like, "A short, sturdy creature fond of drink and industry." and "A medium-sized highly social mammalian carnivore. It has a keen sense of smell. It can be trained to obey commands."  It's just a descriptive sentence, not a stat sheet

Spoiler: Searching for: caste:ronin (click to show/hide)

   [CASTE:RONIN_MALE]
      [CASTE_NAME:uruk ronin:uruk ronin:orcish]
      [MALE]   
      [TRANCES]
      [BODY_SIZE:0:0:7050]
      [BODY_SIZE:1:0:23000]
      [BODY_SIZE:5:0:90000]        
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:3000:3500:3750:4000:4250:4500:5000]            ++++
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:2000:2500:3000:3250:3500:3750:4000]             +++
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:TOUGHNESS:3000:3500:3750:4000:4250:4500:5000]           ++++
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:RECUPERATION:3000:3500:3750:4000:4250:4500:5000]        ++++
      [NATURAL_SKILL:AXE:2]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:SWORD:5]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:BOW:2]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:SHIELD:5]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:ARMOR:5]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:MELEE_COMBAT:5]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:RANGED_COMBAT:2]
                [CASTE_PROFESSION_NAME:STANDARD:Male Ronin:Ronin]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:ALL_CREATURES][DESCRIPTION:A powerful humanoid creature with violent tendencies.  Orcs build their strongholds in the twilight lands at the margins of the world.  Ronin are casteless uruk who hope to barter their skills for a home in a new clan; Male ronin traditionally train primarily with the sword.]
   [POP_RATIO:4]

   
   [CASTE:RONIN_FEMALE]
      [CASTE_NAME:uruk ronin:uruk ronin:orcish]
      [FEMALE]
      [TRANCES]
      [MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]      
      [BODY_SIZE:0:0:7050]
      [BODY_SIZE:1:0:23000]
      [BODY_SIZE:5:0:90000]        
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:3000:3500:3750:4000:4250:4500:5000]            ++++
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:2000:2500:3000:3250:3500:3750:4000]                 +++
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:TOUGHNESS:3000:3500:3750:4000:4250:4500:5000]           ++++
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:RECUPERATION:3000:3500:3750:4000:4250:4500:5000]        ++++      
      [NATURAL_SKILL:AXE:2]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:SWORD:2]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:BOW:5]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:SHIELD:5]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:ARMOR:5]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:MELEE_COMBAT:2]
      [NATURAL_SKILL:RANGED_COMBAT:5]
                [CASTE_PROFESSION_NAME:STANDARD:Female Ronin:Ronin]
      [CREATURE_CLASS:ALL_CREATURES][DESCRIPTION:A powerful humanoid creature with violent tendencies.  Orcs build their strongholds in the twilight lands at the margins of the world.  Ronin are casteless uruk who hope to barter their skills for a home in a new clan; Female ronin traditionally train primarily with the bow.]
   [POP_RATIO:4]

creature_orcfort_taigaorc.txt(1030): [CASTE:RONIN_MALE]
creature_orcfort_taigaorc.txt(1052): [CASTE:RONIN_FEMALE]
Found 2 occurrence(s) in 1 file(s)

[Kbarbarossa]

Perhaps it would be a good idea to retrofit the Steamfoundry to require Gnomish ingenuity; toolkits, captives, blueprint and the like. I think it would fit the theme better. The Orcs may be resourceful, but I don't think they developed high-tech stuff THAT quickly. Alternatively, requiring components you only get from Gnome raids could also be a good incentive to raid them. Steal Gnome gizmos = Get cool gadgets. You could of course use moth methods. Just my two cents, it seems like it would be a good way to implement the Gnomes in Orc mode.

[smakemupagus]

Yes i am thinking this through too.  I'm leaning towards using one or two of the gnomish tech widgets to lock out the highest tech stuff at Steamfoundry and Heavy Weapons Laboratory.  Then you can either get the widgets by raiding, or have a captured gnome laborer craft them from local materials.

On the other hand, Cosmic Gear.  If all that's standing between orcish longboats and all other points in space-time are a couple of pointy-hatted munchkins, I'm thinking XCOM HQ is about to have a very bad day ^^ (mostly kidding)

[Gamerlord]

...Is it possible for us to mod such a workshop and create creatures to respond to the raids? Maybe use creatures from other, more 'futuristic' or full-conversion mods? Because space-time raiding orcs is probably one of the most awesome things I've ever heard of.

[smakemupagus]

maybe? off the top of my head;

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reaction: upgrade longboat to voidcruiser
reagent: longboat
reagent: oil
reagent: diodes x 2
reagent: aluminum bars x 4
product: aluminum voidcruiser

reaction: advanced raidgear
reagent: raid gear
reagent: war standard
reagent: chainaxe
reagent: grog x 300
product: advanced raidgear

reaction: voidcruiser coordinates = (Earth,2015)
reagent: aluminum voidcruiser
reagent: advanced raidgear
reagent: 5000 shillings (got to still pay the boys their wages, right?)
product: 25% x voidcruiser laden with Xray Defense Base Loot
product: 100% x quantity 10 x INORGANIC_VENGEFUL_MEC_TROOPER_SPAWN

reaction: unpack Xray raid loot
reagent: voidcruiser laden with Xray Base Loot
product: (common) titanium bars, bullets, etc. etc.
product: (common) steel musket
(...)
product: (rare) laser carbine
product: (rare) superior assault musket
product: (rare) arc thrower
product: (rare) kinetic strike module

reaction: duplicate laser carbine
reagent: laser carbine [not consumed]
reagent: musket
reagent: 2x clear glass windows
reagent: large gem
reagent: gnomish diode
product: laser carbine

reaction: upgrade laser carbine
reagent: laser carbine
reagent: stable warpstone
reagent: orichalcum mechanism
product: plasma carbine

Sorta crazy, but maybe not so much crazier than the arenas/summoning circles that other races have.  Personally I find the concept kind of delightful because it reminds me of steampunk space-fantasy like in the heyday of old M&M and Wizardry.  But I know this wouldn't be, like, universally popular.  Well, I think that Meph is giving us GUI toggle buttons sometime soon

[Insanegame27]

and this is when LOTR turns into HALO
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(snip)

[smakemupagus]

I'm being only half serious anyway, but it's hardly the 1st Age on Arda in MDF.  Ion guns, laser pistol**, kinetic strike module*, diodes, capacitors, shock baton, powered armor, automatons, and cosmic gear are all already in full effect.

** exists, but mood only and doesn't fire, i think
* ITEM_WEAPON_KNUCKLE_DUSTER_UPGRADE_TWO.  Perhaps more powerful than a KSM actually

[Insanegame27]

I sent the weakest snaga in the fort out with a steel knuckle-duster to dispapear in a ball of blood attack a dark strangler siege. The snaga won and got himself the name... The Whirling fist.

Moral of the story: Knuckle dusters arent actually what they appear to be. They have the power to deal heaps of damage. They are actually a giant machine akin to a handheld battering ram. A knuckle duster consists of a piston that pushes outward at supersonic speed, and the resounding supersonic boom is what does the separating of limbs

[Gamerlord]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ADAMANTINE DAIKATANAS FOR ALL THE URUKS. PRAISE THE MOUNTAINHOME LOOT FOR IT'S GOODIES AND THE KOBOLD TRICKSTER HUT FOR THE ASSAULT PLANS. MAY ALL CREATION TREMBLE IN FEAR.