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[etgfrog]

Hm...this seems to be masters of orion 3 level of hatred.
The game didn't live up to the hype that surrounded it, not sure what else needs to be said regarding it...unless some people enjoy marching around with pitchforks and torches.

[Arbinire]

My only point was that Chucklefish misappropriated funds(which they most certainly did).  To me that's a boycott worthy offense.  I would give them the benefit of the doubt if they went back to the original point process and roadmap which they initially sold the game on(to me, any original backers, and most Early Access buyers before these things were removed), but they, very vocally I might add, aren't doing that.  If they wanted to start publishing they should have been up front with that from the get go, instead of trying the "it's better to quell all dissent instead of ask permission" mentality to things.

They misappropriated funds people spent for the development of Starbound.  I cannot stress that enough.  THEY MISAPPROPRIATED FUNDS PEOPLE SPENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF STARBOUND.

[Oneir]

unless some people enjoy marching around with pitchforks and torches.

I mean, yeah. CF is an easy target, with a mix of honest mistakes and outright ugly ones.

For me, Starbound and CF are kind of an interesting case study in game development. What went wrong, and when? What can you determine as a consumer looking in? What choices did CF, and how did they present them, to either excite or incite the community? CF is on the one hand lucky to have gotten a boost from the crowdfunding boom, but on the other hand has gotten hit hard by the increasingly critical response to over-promising crowd-funding campaigns.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Weren't Chucklefish in publishing since before Starbound? They published Wanderlust: Rebirth in 2011, almost a year before announcing Starbound. I wasn't following the drama around that time much (I'm not a fan of drama in general), so I've no idea about misappropriated funds; care to summarize?

[boki]

For me its a ok game. Nothing special and alos nothing terrible

[Arbinire]

Weren't Chucklefish in publishing since before Starbound? They published Wanderlust: Rebirth in 2011, almost a year before announcing Starbound. I wasn't following the drama around that time much (I'm not a fan of drama in general), so I've no idea about misappropriated funds; care to summarize?

Early access, alphafunding, or paid-alpha is a funding model in the video game industry by which consumers can pay for a game in the early stages of development and obtain access to playable but unfinished versions of the game, while the developer is able to use those funds to continue work on the game. Those that pay to participate typically help to debug game, provide feedback and suggestions, and may have access to special materials upon release of the game. The early access approach is a common way to obtain funding for indie games and may also be used along other funding mechanisms including crowdfunding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_access

The crowdfunding model is based on three types of actors: the project initiator who proposes the idea and/or project to be funded; individuals or groups who support the idea; and a moderating organization (the "platform") that brings the parties together to launch the idea .[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdfunding

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/misappropriate?s=t

For reference, here's an archived copy of their initial crowdfunding/pre-order FAQ:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140210172954/http://playstarbound.com/store/faq.php

No where in there does it state funds will be provided toward publishing, and the Early Access Model clearly outlines that funds go toward that game to ensure continued development.  When funding goes other directions except the ones stated when you made your proposal, that's a misappropriation of funds.

Then there's: http://i.imgur.com/2mvZjij.jpg, where Moly again states exactly where our funds were supposed to go, and claiming that they'd always happily refund people.  And here she is contradicting the refund claim: https://i.imgur.com/IkxDf8r.png?1.

[umiman]

This thread is stuck in a cycle of perpetuity. Every 10 pages or so it just repeats itself ceaselessly.

[Mephisto]

Screw it, rebuttal removed. This conversation is about as useful as headbutting brick walls.



If only SMF allowed removing threads from the "new replies" page, I wouldn't get the urge to check this thread on every update.

[hops]

We could always just keep saying the same thing over and over.

[Ozyton]

You could always just wait for Starbound to release some official update/full release of their game before checking back. That's mainly what I've been waiting for, avoiding getting involved in conversation here for the most part.

[Sergius]

This thread is stuck in a cycle of perpetuity. Every 10 pages or so it just repeats itself ceaselessly.

I find the thread more entertaining than the game, myself.

[hops]

You could always just wait for Starbound to release some official update/full release of their game before checking back. That's mainly what I've been waiting for, avoiding getting involved in conversation here for the most part.

Or we could always just keep saying the same thing over and over.

[ChairmanPoo]

This thread is stuck in a cycle of perpetuity. Every 10 posts or so it just repeats itself ceaselessly.

[Elephant Parade]

This thread is stuck in a cycle of perpetuity. Every 10 pages or so it just repeats itself ceaselessly.

I find the thread more entertaining than the game, myself.

You could always just wait for Starbound to release some official update/full release of their game before checking back. That's mainly what I've been waiting for, avoiding getting involved in conversation here for the most part.

Or we could always just keep saying the same thing over and over.

Just a thought, but perhaps you should start a separate thread in general discussion? This derail has gone on for long enough.

[Cyroth]

This thread is stuck in a cycle of perpetuity. Every 10 posts or so it just repeats itself ceaselessly.

The cycles are getting shorter! Soon they will beginn to repeat themselves before they have finished.
Causality will be shattered, reality will devour itself.