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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
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I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 113 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 582214 times)

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #690 on: February 06, 2015, 11:53:25 pm »

Can a person even survive having the corpus callosum severed?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #691 on: February 06, 2015, 11:56:11 pm »

Can a person even survive having the corpus callosum severed?

Yeah suprisingly well too.
Its only used in extreme cases of epilepsy.

The test subjects patients say the feel well. But that could be the left side bullshiting you because its evil
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #692 on: February 06, 2015, 11:56:58 pm »

Can a person even survive having the corpus callosum severed?

It's an effective epilepsy treatment. Apparently there are almost no side effects (although the ones that are there are kind of... odd) and it stops almost all epilepsy effects.

Edit: Specifically, there's almost no change in personality iirc.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #693 on: February 06, 2015, 11:59:06 pm »

But you get really weird shit like left neglect.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #694 on: February 07, 2015, 12:02:20 am »

Interesting.

I'd say it's still one person and therefore has one soul. Although I can see the grounds on which one could make a reference to a certain David Cage game.

There's no way of knowing, really. Religious texts that I know of don't actually mention the topic.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #695 on: February 07, 2015, 12:03:14 am »

Yeah, as I said, the few symptoms are odd. People with split corpus callosums can also draw two things at the same time. There are also some odd sensory things that happen when the vision for an eye and the speaking section are on different sides of the brain.

PPE: You could consider some parts of it as mental damage/impairment, and there are religions that cover that.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #696 on: February 07, 2015, 12:08:35 am »

Can a person even survive having the corpus callosum severed?

Yeah suprisingly well too.
Its only used in extreme cases of epilepsy.

The test subjects patients say the feel well. But that could be the left side bullshiting you because its evil
I don't think you know how psychology works.

No I dont and neither do you.
Its speculation.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #697 on: February 07, 2015, 12:10:10 am »

Sorry, I just dont see that many similarities, thats all.
... largely identical moral codes and strongly similar metaphysical claims (which isn't exactly surprising, considering they both claim to worship the same thing), which is to say more or less all of it worth mention. There's differences, but they're both monotheistic abrahamic religions that have filled more or less the same social roles, with most of what that entails. To a fair extent they're more alike than not, really...
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #698 on: February 07, 2015, 12:21:11 am »

I dont believe in good or evil.
That was called a terrible joke.
Im sorry you got offended by my lack of humour.
I still stand by the fact that psychology isnt a accurate science however.
If it was I would be sane
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« Reply #699 on: February 07, 2015, 12:22:17 am »

... largely identical moral codes and strongly similar metaphysical claims (which isn't exactly surprising, considering they both claim to worship the same thing), which is to say more or less all of it worth mention. There's differences, but they're both monotheistic abrahamic religions that have filled more or less the same social roles, with most of what that entails. To a fair extent they're more alike than not, really...
If you have actually studied the Origin of Islam and the Koran, you would know that the moral codes are vastly different. Plus, its different where it actually matters, namely in salvation matters, the nature of God, stuff like that.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #700 on: February 07, 2015, 12:27:43 am »

From what I remember, most data we have on people with a severed corpus callosum comes from maybe a handful of instances, far too few to extrapolate any reliable information from. I'm also going to point out that this thing sparked the whole "right/left brained" bullshit that's been passed around by the ignorant for most of my lifespan, so I'd take ANYTHING related to it with enough salt to preserve a small whale carcass. And the general Christian viewpoint on sin is that it has to be: A: Made with full knowledge of the consequences and B: Made with full control of your faculties. Someone who kills someone while drunk is guilty of a lesser sin then one who performs the same act in cold blood. Having a dual identity due to having your brain fucked with[Not even sure that's possible outside of fiction, I have little to no knowledge on the subject] would inhibit B and possibly A, making any sinful acts committed by said person not their fault. And I'm also fairly sure disassociative personality disorder doesn't actually make two different people, merely one very very confused person who BELIEVES they are different people.

EDIT: ^In case you haven't noticed, please take anything I said about psychology with a standard civilian issue salt shaker. I am far from an expert on the subject. Also, people post really fast. Its almost like they've all been trained in ninjistu while my back was turned.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #701 on: February 07, 2015, 12:32:45 am »

From what I remember, most data we have on people with a severed corpus callosum comes from maybe a handful of instances, far too few to extrapolate any reliable information from. I'm also going to point out that this thing sparked the whole "right/left brained" bullshit that's been passed around by the ignorant for most of my lifespan

More than a few cases, Arc, and the symptoms were consistent regardless.

The right/left brained thing is true insofar as different hemispheres are responsible for different functions. The left hemisphere is heavily in control of speech, for example, and most speech impediments come from damaged left hemispheres.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #702 on: February 07, 2015, 12:33:32 am »

Are we sure arc wasn't talking. About the left right sides being good/evil?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #703 on: February 07, 2015, 12:35:31 am »

Are we sure arc wasn't talking. About the left right sides being good/evil?

That seems most implausible.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #704 on: February 07, 2015, 12:37:09 am »

.... Which part
Him talking about it or it in general?
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