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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!  (Read 803199 times)

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1155 on: May 17, 2015, 03:06:49 pm »


The only way this is viable, is if for some reason, this helmet is incapable of having the visor lifted.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1156 on: May 17, 2015, 03:07:51 pm »

Congrats troll. That's not a power helmet, or one made since glasses were a thing.
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« Reply #1157 on: May 17, 2015, 03:23:07 pm »

Don't be absurd. Uber soldiers in power armor would not need glasses. They all have better than perfect vision.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1158 on: May 17, 2015, 03:23:29 pm »

It IS a full body armor helmet, however, and it is one piece. For good reason arguably; being made of one piece would make it more structuraly robust.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1159 on: May 17, 2015, 03:40:57 pm »

Nevertheless, that is also a great helm, and those things are huge. There's enough room for, at the very least, most forms of corrective eyewear because of the sheer amount of padding you have to wear under a nonflexible helm like that. Actually wearing eyewear under it wouldn't probably be the smartest idea, though, given how likely it is to be violently jostled or smashed against (or into) your face if you take a hit.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1160 on: May 17, 2015, 03:44:20 pm »

Single-piece construction is not necessarily superior to multi-piece construction when modern engineering practices are taken into account, we do have rather more varied techniques available to us than medieval armorers.  Contacts definitely do the job, the only concern I have is that I haven't seen a recipe for them anywhere (again, there is a hell of a lot of stuff to sift through so let me know if I missed it), so from that perspective they are only a short-term option.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1161 on: May 17, 2015, 03:47:05 pm »

Congrats troll. That's not a power helmet, or one made since glasses were a thing.
Well it was somewhat funny in any case hehe.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1162 on: May 17, 2015, 03:48:56 pm »

Can you use the hospital auto surgery unit (forgot its name) to do a corrective surgery? That would be neat.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1163 on: May 17, 2015, 03:51:30 pm »

Really, installing diamond corneas, or almost any of the other optical CBMs should probably correct to 20/20 automatically, but that isn't the argument I'm pursuing.  If the military was going to utilize full environmental powered battle armor, they would certainly include vision-correction into the equation, with either adjustable lenses or inserts.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1164 on: May 17, 2015, 03:58:53 pm »

Really, installing diamond corneas, or almost any of the other optical CBMs should probably correct to 20/20 automatically, but that isn't the argument I'm pursuing.
And removing them should permanently blind you too. :P

That said I could certainly see a visor insert, and while I'm working on something else right now, I can certainly add it to near the top of my list of things to work on.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1165 on: May 17, 2015, 04:02:34 pm »

Really, installing diamond corneas, or almost any of the other optical CBMs should probably correct to 20/20 automatically, but that isn't the argument I'm pursuing.  If the military was going to utilize full environmental powered battle armor, they would certainly include vision-correction into the equation, with either adjustable lenses or inserts.
Knowing the military as I do, they'd be more likely to simply screen out soldiers who need corrective eyewear. Its cheaper than designing in vision correction.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1166 on: May 17, 2015, 04:05:10 pm »

I AM an ex-soldier.  There is no attempt to screen out those who have correctable vision, as doing so would massively decrease the available pool of recruits.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1167 on: May 17, 2015, 04:07:13 pm »

I AM an ex-soldier.
Yes.. so am I. I'm saying that they'd be more likely to screen out soldiers who require such vision correction than to design it into the helmet's optics.

I still think you should be able to make some corrective goggles or something to wear under them though
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1168 on: May 17, 2015, 04:08:59 pm »

Well, NullForce was part of the Shivering Isles military, and you were part of the American military, so maybe along with the other insanities related to that country, the American military cuts down their force like that too.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1169 on: May 17, 2015, 04:12:46 pm »

They don't even try to exclude them from sniper school, or Navy SEAL training, or Army Special Forces, or even Marine Force Recon.  The Military of the U.S. has spoken, and they say that reducing the number of viable soldiers is less acceptable than paying a rather small cost of dealing with issuing glasses to everyone who needs them, and setting up systems to support them.  Since Cataclysm is set in the U.S. (an alternate future yes, but still the U.S.) we can expect to see some consistency (and we already do.)
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