Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Kat]

@Kat, it is a simple bug actually: DT only use fake identity for vampires. I could just move the code so it is applied to everyone. Are there cases where we would not want to use the fake identity if it exists?

I'm not sure.
In my game, those citizens appeared to be members of my own civilisation in the legends, so I figure they could be agents of my civ's monarch, just keeping an eye on what I am doing. But... other citizens could be members of other civilisations, spying on my artifacts and so on, plotting raids and the like.
Maybe in future it'll be more important ? Perhaps it should be an option in the same section that allows highlighting of cursed citizens & vampires ? Showing the real names of potential spies tells the player something that they wouldn't otherwise know.

for example: a citizen that was raised in a different culture, would have a real name from that culture. Long-term players would recognise if a migrant has a human, goblin, or elvish real name. Which would be rather suspicious.

[martinuzz]

Can DT and DFHack run at the same time?

[lethosor]

Can DT and DFHack run at the same time?

Yeah. I think most pack users do that.

[Saintpepsi]

Whenever I try to use the latest release it doesn't connect to Dwarf Fortress, and crashes when it does. This is what I found in the log:

Code: [Select]

2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.106 INFO core Connection to DF version "v0.44.03 (graphics) win64" established. [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\mainwindow.cpp:429] (MainWindow::connect_to_df)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.532 INFO core Loaded 12 views from disk [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\viewmanager.cpp:170] (ViewManager::reload_views)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.535 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.538 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Military" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.541 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Attributes" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.543 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Roles" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.545 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Animals" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.546 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.546 INFO core "redrew views in 13ms" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\viewmanager.cpp:317] (ViewManager::draw_views)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.546 INFO core current year: 250 [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:784] (DFInstance::refresh_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.548 INFO core FOUND 49 squads [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:875] (DFInstance::load_squads)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.549 INFO core no active units (embark) using full unit list [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:942] (DFInstance::get_creatures)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.612 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e828e0) name:Udib Asobirid id:24342 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.613 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e814d0) name:Dumed Akrelbim id:24343 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.615 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e83cf0) name:Nish Vucarostath id:24344 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.616 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e88d30) name:Cerol Nethrimtar id:24345 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.617 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e86510) name:Kumil Idashreg id:24346 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.617 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e8dd70) name:Cerol D?shmabrabed id:24347 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.619 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e8a140) name:Th?kut Avuzber id:24348 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.619 INFO core read 7 units in 70 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:399] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.623 INFO core calculated roles in 4 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:411] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.623 INFO core loaded population data in 0 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:416] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.629 INFO core found 7 units out of 7 creatures [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:430] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.652 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.670 INFO core loaded rows for "Labors Full" 18 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:785] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.002 INFO core completed read in 1456 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\mainwindow.cpp:628] (MainWindow::read_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.011 WARNING core "illegal value" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\updater.cpp:181] (Updater::load_manifest)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.012 INFO core Setting memory layout for DF checksum "0x5a40c6db" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:1081] (DFInstance::set_memory_layout)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.012 INFO core Detected Dwarf Fortress version "v0.44.03 (graphics) win64" using MemoryLayout from "C:/Users/jon/DwarfTherapist-v39.1.2-win64/share/memory_layouts/windows/v0.44.03_graphics_win64.ini" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:1086] (DFInstance::set_memory_layout)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.012 INFO core Connection to DF version "v0.44.03 (graphics) win64" established. [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\mainwindow.cpp:429] (MainWindow::connect_to_df)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.340 INFO core Loaded 12 views from disk [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\viewmanager.cpp:170] (ViewManager::reload_views)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.344 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)

The log says it has connected, but it doesn't display anything and says "disconnected" in the bottom right corner. Here's a screenshot of a crash.

https://imgur.com/a/6d6Ya

Not sure what's going on.

[martinuzz]

How do I open a Dwarf Details dock? The manual tells me they exist but I cannot find how to actually get them. I tried double clicking a dwarf name, didn't work, tried rightclicking, menu doesn't have the option.

EDIT: nvm, found it, windows tab


EDIT: Oh -  I am slightly this a point.

You can't edit trait values with DT? I suspect my duchess' low dutifullness (finds obligations confining) is preventing her from getting married to her lover. Wanted to tweak that, but apparently DT isn't capable of that?

What utility do I need to manage that, or is it not possible?

[PatrikLundell]

@martinuzz: Hacking is usually done with DFHack, with gui/gm-editor the go to tool if there isn't a script that does what you want to do (and don't want to write that script yourself, in which case gui/gm-editor is very handy to find what you need to change).
-I think there are some DFHack scripts for modifying various attributes, but I've never used any of them.
- Are you sure both the duchess and her lover are prepared to marry the people of the other one's gender? That's the most common stumbling block (prepared to engage in a love affair, but not to marry). I believe the "gaydar" script can alter there things.

[Clément]

Whenever I try to use the latest release it doesn't connect to Dwarf Fortress, and crashes when it does. This is what I found in the log:

Code: [Select]

2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.106 INFO core Connection to DF version "v0.44.03 (graphics) win64" established. [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\mainwindow.cpp:429] (MainWindow::connect_to_df)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.532 INFO core Loaded 12 views from disk [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\viewmanager.cpp:170] (ViewManager::reload_views)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.535 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.538 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Military" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.541 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Attributes" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.543 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Roles" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.545 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Animals" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.546 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.546 INFO core "redrew views in 13ms" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\viewmanager.cpp:317] (ViewManager::draw_views)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.546 INFO core current year: 250 [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:784] (DFInstance::refresh_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.548 INFO core FOUND 49 squads [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:875] (DFInstance::load_squads)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.549 INFO core no active units (embark) using full unit list [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:942] (DFInstance::get_creatures)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.612 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e828e0) name:Udib Asobirid id:24342 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.613 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e814d0) name:Dumed Akrelbim id:24343 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.615 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e83cf0) name:Nish Vucarostath id:24344 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.616 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e88d30) name:Cerol Nethrimtar id:24345 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.617 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e86510) name:Kumil Idashreg id:24346 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.617 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e8dd70) name:Cerol D?shmabrabed id:24347 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.619 INFO core "FOUND Dwarf (0x000001af69e8a140) name:Th?kut Avuzber id:24348 histfig_id:-1" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarf.cpp:307] (Dwarf::read_data)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.619 INFO core read 7 units in 70 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:399] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.623 INFO core calculated roles in 4 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:411] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.623 INFO core loaded population data in 0 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:416] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.629 INFO core found 7 units out of 7 creatures [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:430] (DFInstance::load_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.652 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:01.670 INFO core loaded rows for "Labors Full" 18 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:785] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.002 INFO core completed read in 1456 ms [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\mainwindow.cpp:628] (MainWindow::read_dwarves)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.011 WARNING core "illegal value" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\updater.cpp:181] (Updater::load_manifest)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.012 INFO core Setting memory layout for DF checksum "0x5a40c6db" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:1081] (DFInstance::set_memory_layout)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.012 INFO core Detected Dwarf Fortress version "v0.44.03 (graphics) win64" using MemoryLayout from "C:/Users/jon/DwarfTherapist-v39.1.2-win64/share/memory_layouts/windows/v0.44.03_graphics_win64.ini" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dfinstance.cpp:1086] (DFInstance::set_memory_layout)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.012 INFO core Connection to DF version "v0.44.03 (graphics) win64" established. [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\mainwindow.cpp:429] (MainWindow::connect_to_df)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.340 INFO core Loaded 12 views from disk [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\viewmanager.cpp:170] (ViewManager::reload_views)
2017-Dec-30 19:28:03.344 INFO core group_by now set to 0  for view  "Labors Full" [E:\projects\Dwarf-Therapist\src\dwarfmodel.cpp:779] (DwarfModel::set_group_by)

The log says it has connected, but it doesn't display anything and says "disconnected" in the bottom right corner. Here's a screenshot of a crash.

https://imgur.com/a/6d6Ya

Not sure what's going on.

From your log, DT connect correctly one first time, then there is an error with the updater and it try to reconnect and crash. What happens if you disable the updater (Options > General > Updates > uncheck "Automatically Check for Updater")?

What do you mean by "doesn't display anything"? On your screenshot, I can see the list of dwarves.

@martinuzz, DFHack is what you need. DT is not a cheating tool (although it has a few options), it is meant to edit values (enabled labors, nicknames, squads) that you can already edit in game but displayed differently with more statistics. Currently DT does not show the difference between romance and commitment, but it is work in progress. The value you may want to edit is unit.current_soul.orientation_flags.

An old quote from Toady, but I don't think it has changed.

Of course, all relationships are still eternal, so the lover thing is kind of broken now (sometimes it won't advance beyond lover because one of the parties is not interested in committing, but still neither ever breaks it off, ever...  not unrealistic in individual cases, but strange overall).

[Saintpepsi]

From your log, DT connect correctly one first time, then there is an error with the updater and it try to reconnect and crash. What happens if you disable the updater (Options > General > Updates > uncheck "Automatically Check for Updater")?

That appears to fix it.

What do you mean by "doesn't display anything"? On your screenshot, I can see the list of dwarves.

Until the updater times out it doesn't display anything, and then it briefly displays the dwarfs before crashing.

[martinuzz]

Used gaydar on the lovers
She likes males
He likes females

Does this mean they won't marry, because gaydar does not say 'will marry' ?

@clément: I looked at this soul orientation flag, but I am not a coder, it's all gibberish to me. How would I go about editing values?

[PatrikLundell]

@martinuzz: Neither of them will marry anyone. Both are purely hetero, but neither will commit to marriage.
I believe there are options for gaydar to change the orientation. Try "help gaydar" in the DFHack console.
Otherwise, the soul orientation flags are boolean (true/false) flags:
The first one is Indeterminate, which is True only on adventurers. Then you have romance_male, romance_female, marry_male, marry_female (probably with slightly different names and order (this is written from memory), and your characters have the romance_male and romance_female flags set, respectively. You want the marry_male and marry_female flags to be set instead, so the romance_ flags should be set to toggled to False, while the marry_ flags should be toggled to True.
None of the flags in a gender pair True: Uninterested in that gender.
Romance_ and Marry_ for the same gender will not be set at the same time.
A flag set for both genders means the character is some version of bi-sexual, while a flag only for the own gender means it's a case of some flavor of homo sexual.

Boolean values are toggled in gui/gm-editor by moving the cursor on top of them and then hitting <ENTER>. Values of other types instead bring up a dialog box asking you to enter a value.

[martinuzz]

Thx will have a look at that gui/gm editor once my brain had some post-new year rest and recuperation 

(as far as I can tell from the online manual, gaydar is read only, and has no options for alteration. Help gaydar only tells you what basic gaydar does, ls gaydar tells me it's not a plugin)
 

[Clément]

Speaking of sexual orientation, I have redone my icon set with new background colors. I also changed the size from 16×16 to 15×15 so I could center the female symbol, and removed the background border.



And double resolution (30×30) for high DPI display (it's vector graphics, it's cheap to make):



I am still not happy with the result. Maybe I should simplify by using gray background for not committed and uniform backgrounds for bisexuals except when committed to both.

edit: alternative with less background variety:

[PatrikLundell]

Thanks for your work, Clément!
Personally I'd vote for the first set, but either is more than good enough.

[jecowa]

Speaking of sexual orientation, I have redone my icon set with new background colors. I also changed the size from 16×16 to 15×15 so I could center the female symbol, and removed the background border.



And double resolution (30×30) for high DPI display (it's vector graphics, it's cheap to make):



I am still not happy with the result. Maybe I should simplify by using gray background for not committed and uniform backgrounds for bisexuals except when committed to both.

edit: alternative with less background variety:

Those look great! Do you want to use the upscaled icons I was working on?
If you don't, that's fine. I just didn't know if I should bother making more or not.

[Clément]

Wait until I add the support for that.