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Author Topic: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"  (Read 218684 times)

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2535 on: December 11, 2023, 09:12:48 am »

U fkin wot m8
ehhh rite not bein funneh but swear on me nan u bin rilin me well up so pipe down or I'm puttin me reeboks on we're gettin the lads and we'll be cheeki breeki like down your postcode

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2536 on: December 11, 2023, 09:17:46 am »

cheeki breeki? is that a threat to get your windows smashed?

I was thinking today, would zoomers be sad if you proved to them that the "ded" skull emoji was invented by some french wine mom on facebook, who just tried to convey MDR.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2537 on: December 11, 2023, 09:28:16 am »

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2538 on: December 11, 2023, 09:29:34 am »

cheeki breeki? is that a threat to get your windows smashed?
Verily forsooth I vouchsafe on my honour as a gentleman and the confidence of my dearest ancestors, thou hast given me a choleric temper - an imperative response is demanded. Put down your sword lest I be given casus belli to muster the men, stiffen the sinews, and like the dreaded tiger roar and let loose the cats of war. Heed this ultimatum, else my rallied-bannermen shall be funky freaky, and a little bit sneaky fresh upon your house!!!

I was thinking today, would zoomers be sad if you proved to them that the "ded" skull emoji was invented by some french wine mom on facebook, who just tried to convey MDR.
I hate how a lot of apps today auto-convert :0 or L: or >:) into emojis

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2539 on: December 11, 2023, 09:32:35 am »

U fkin wot m8
ehhh rite not bein funneh but swear on me nan u bin rilin me well up so pipe down or I'm puttin me reeboks on we're gettin the lads and we'll be cheeki breeki like down your postcode
.... Okay I can't match this London-speak.
Time to deploy.... Belfast-speak.

Aye pipe down mate or we'll do yer knees in. Yer in Belly-fast now, and here's the craic - ye came up the Lagan in a bubble, and we're gonna ship ye back to yer avon-selling da in a shoebox.

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Okay so I'm not as good at Belfast slang as I thought  :'(
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2540 on: December 11, 2023, 09:43:07 am »

Verily forsooth I vouchsafe on my honour as a gentleman and the confidence of my dearest ancestors, thou hast given me a choleric temper - an imperative response is demanded. Put down your sword lest I be given casus belli to muster the men, stiffen the sinews, and like the dreaded tiger roar and let loose the cats of war. Heed this ultimatum, else my rallied-bannermen shall be funky freaky, and a little bit sneaky fresh upon your house!!!
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2541 on: December 11, 2023, 09:45:23 am »

Uhm I think you're confounding time dilation and relative speed... For most instances they're not running so fast as to wrap time around them (except for the obligatory change something in the past episodes)... So no it's just a way of showing one is at 6000fps whereas the others are at 60fps; highspeed cameras work much alike.

No that's the point! If you are moving fast, it doesn't make things look slower. You have to actually increase your "frame rate" like that camera to make things look slow.  Consider if you are just riding in a normal human jet - the time between "frames" gets shorter and shorter e.g., things look faster the faster you are going, not slower!

So if the Flash's ability isn't just to be able to run fast, but also to be able to boost his mental frame rate, then he'd be able to see things "in slow motion" without running fast. In fact, the faster he runs, the more he'd have to "framerate boost" to see things in slow motion.

Basically it's the idea that the "see things in slow motion" power is not a direct effect of moving fast - it has to be a separate power.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2542 on: December 11, 2023, 09:52:39 am »

Like a siren car approaching you and passing by

You approaching at high speed a siren car that's standing still would have the same effect

So your vision would compress the same way the siren sound waves compress

Is that what you mean? Because if so I might be getting it
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2543 on: December 11, 2023, 10:18:02 am »

It's worse than the doppler effect; it's both the doppler effect and time dilation, compounded.

I mean say you are approaching a sequence of sidewalk squares, each 1 meter in length. If you are going 1 meter/second (walking speed), you see one square pass you each second.  If you are on a bicycle going 10m/s, you see 10 squares passing you each second.  So to see the squares even going by at the same 1 second each speed, your internal "framerate" would have to be 10x as fast, making your clock need 10 seconds for 1 second of the rest of the world.  To make things look like "slow motion", you'd have to think each line is going by at say 10 seconds, your internal clock would need to be 100x faster - you'd need 100 of your seconds for each 1 second of the real world.  Or put another way, you spread out 1 second of "world time" into 100 of your local seconds.

But this is opposite time dilation - if you start moving quickly, more "world seconds" get crammed into your one second - not less!  So to exaggerate, 10 real-world seconds get crammed into 1 of your seconds.  That is - the world ages 10 seconds for every 1 second you age.  This is the opposite effect of what is portrayed, where the fast entity ages more than the rest of the world.

So if you were moving that quickly, your internal "framerate" would have to be some ridiculous multiple of your speed, to result in you perceiving things as being in slow-motion.

Also, it's not even considering length contraction and blue-shift/red-shift, which is also all sorts of fun :)
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2544 on: December 11, 2023, 10:33:01 am »

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Yes highspeed perception would be a separate power required to oprate the first, that sadly is never mentionned in those works of fiction. Under normal perception things would be flying past them so fast. No disagrements there.


But these characters are all sorts of funky: when the flash runs so fast to turn back in time... say he needed to make a tiny course correction... How much power do you need to shift the course of 120lbs at lightspeed by even one 1°? Not to mention that then he would be running blind no matter how fast he perceives.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2545 on: December 11, 2023, 10:45:15 am »

Yes highspeed perception would be a separate power required to oprate the first, that sadly is never mentionned in those works of fiction. Under normal perception things would be flying past them so fast. No disagrements there.
Eehh... it comes up pretty often in books and such, for what it's worth? You don't see it mentioned in comics or movies much, probably because of the condensed nature of the mediums, but folks working in that general region of fiction actually do tend to give some attention to the perception/reaction at high speed thing.

It's not 100%, but I read a fair amount of junk involving superhuman speed and probably well over half make note of the issue one way or another.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2546 on: December 11, 2023, 11:05:40 am »

They should do a whole issue where they do nothing but landscapes then slowly veer off into an in debt description of some new york biome, idk like the life cycle of some insect or something like that... And then in the end it turns out the comic was about the fact that the flash had to wait two minutes.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2547 on: December 12, 2023, 03:58:36 am »

If the Flash stays still for a long period of time he'll explode due to much built up speed in his system.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #2548 on: December 12, 2023, 05:53:15 am »

But this is opposite time dilation - if you start moving quickly, more "world seconds" get crammed into your one second - not less!  So to exaggerate, 10 real-world seconds get crammed into 1 of your seconds.  That is - the world ages 10 seconds for every 1 second you age.  This is the opposite effect of what is portrayed, where the fast entity ages more than the rest of the world.
That's not time dilation you're thinking about. Time dilation is always symmetrical, and slowing time down in the moving frame only - and Flash is never moving from his point of view, even though the world disagrees. I think what you have in mind has more to do with the different lengths of paths through space time, as in the twin paradox. At the end the traveller is shown to have unambiguously aged less by the end of their journey, so there must have been more world-seconds crammed in each of theirs.

Btw, I've always thought the Flash/Quicksilver-type slow down superpower is exactly that of increasing one's 'frame rates'. That the whole body can cram more Flash-seconds into each world-second, and the running fast is just a result of that. And not that it has anything to do with relativistic effects from running fast (do they even ever run at significant fraction of c? I don't know the lore).
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« Reply #2549 on: December 12, 2023, 06:26:59 am »

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