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[Duke 2.0]

 You would have to give more detail on how the hitbox changes from what it normally is. I wouldn't mind a nerf for it if the sentry hitbox was increased, so it could form a more effective shield for whatever engineer is using it.

[Siquo]

Unfortunately, people that get on our server are normally extremely better then the average player. Like Jakkara.

Bwahahaha
His constant jabbering (which is funny, imho) makes him a prime target, somehow. He's good but not "extremely". Perhaps compared to the average free-player, but that makes all of us extremely... oh wait that's what you said. Nevermind me. Comprehensive reading fail.

You know what, I'm going to play me some.

[Strange guy]

Or you can get shot in the face a couple times by an intelligent spy with an ambassador, then watch him laugh over your dead corpse as he saps your shit because the sentry can't shoot when it's coming out of wrangler mode.

Or the engineer could hide behind his sentry after the first shot then shoot the spy to death with his wrangled sentry. And they were probably wrangling it so it survives something a normal sentry would die to, or to spy check. And a normal engie has no real way of dealing with ambassador sniping spies other than hide, what with the pistol and shotgun not being really effective beyond medium range.

[The Scout]

The sentries hitbox is a giant ass box. Would make alot of people happier if it looked closer to the actual visible model.

[PTTG??]

The sentries hitbox is a giant ass box. Would make alot of people happier if it looked closer to the actual visible model.

This is true, though part of the point is that the engie should be able to safely hide behind his sentry.

[Orangebottle]

Or you can get shot in the face a couple times by an intelligent spy with an ambassador, then watch him laugh over your dead corpse as he saps your shit because the sentry can't shoot when it's coming out of wrangler mode.

Or the engineer could hide behind his sentry after the first shot then shoot the spy to death with his wrangled sentry. And they were probably wrangling it so it survives something a normal sentry would die to, or to spy check. And a normal engie has no real way of dealing with ambassador sniping spies other than hide, what with the pistol and shotgun not being really effective beyond medium range.

Or the second shot could kill the engineer no matter where it hits him. :I
Usually when I see a wrangler engineer they're using it to long-range across the battlements of 2fort, or Well.

[MrWiggles]

The sentries hitbox is a giant ass box. Would make alot of people happier if it looked closer to the actual visible model.

This is true, though part of the point is that the engie should be able to safely hide behind his sentry.

That's true to a point, but the hit box of the sentry, doesnt align with what is presented there visually. As a Sniper, it should reward you for skill and patience, for waiting for the geometry of the Sentry to change to allow for a head shot.

[Strange guy]

Or the second shot could kill the engineer no matter where it hits him. :I
Usually when I see a wrangler engineer they're using it to long-range across the battlements of 2fort, or Well.

At long range the ambassador doesn't do enough damage to kill an engie in a headshot + bodyshot. And unless waiting around a second before firing again the accuracy wouldn't be great. Though I was talking about wrangler when necessary engies, not long range ones- who are pretty vulnerable to some things.

[klingon13524]

The sentries hitbox is a giant ass box. Would make alot of people happier if it looked closer to the actual visible model.

This is true, though part of the point is that the engie should be able to safely hide behind his sentry.

That's true to a point, but the hit box of the sentry, doesnt align with what is presented there visually. As a Sniper, it should reward you for skill and patience, for waiting for the geometry of the Sentry to change to allow for a head shot.

When I'm an engineer crouching behind a sentry, I somehow often get sniped. What was that about a big hitbox?

[Duke 2.0]

 For any mechanic to make something less frustrating, there will be a significant chance it won't work.

 See: on-hit sounds, lag compensation, killcams, etc

[Untouchable]

Well that was fun. I put in about three hours today (mostly on payload games) and actually did respectably for someone relatively new to the game. I can only really play as Soldier, Medic or Heavy effectively but all three can be useful.

[The Scout]

Well that was fun. I put in about three hours today (mostly on payload games) and actually did respectably for someone relatively new to the game. I can only really play as Soldier, Medic or Heavy effectively but all three can be useful.

Soldier, Medics, and Heavies are always good.

[dragonshardz]

Soldiers, Medics, and Heavies are the Bread, Butter, and Jam of TF2.

[Untouchable]

Haven't quite mastered rocket jumping though. I've only pulled it off by accident a couple of times.

[Dwarfaholic]

How does one rocketjump accidentally? Spychecks?