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[kisame12794]

The dev said there would be so much more content, and when he failed to deliver, some people got a little ticked off at that.

[comham]

The dev said there would be so much more content, and when he failed to deliver, some people got a little ticked off at that.

I guess that's what you get for following the development of a game and drinking the drips of slow-release content. I don't like minecraft anymore because I did that.

But terraria as it is seemed a reasonable place to stop. I played it without knowing anything about it, though. What exactly did he promise?

[nenjin]

That it was "the game he's always wanted to make", that he'd "keep making content as long as people were asking for it."

It was really the abruptness that really soured everyone. My suspicion is there was an internal falling out. Everything is going along at a good clip, Hard Mode is released which they've been working on for a while...then out of the blue Redigit says "I'm going to spend time with my family (after making more than $1 million in sales.) Blue is already gone. Thanks for the ride, guys."

When someone says they're going to commit to their game ala Toady One style, becomes a huge success, then completely reverses themselves and sells their rights to their game....yeah, I think many have plenty of reasons to feel pissed. Not the least of which is because, he took the time to put it on consoles and add some features for that.

It makes it seem like he sold us on the idea of a living product, but in the end it was really the money he was interested in. Because once he'd made plenty, his interest in developing the game completely disappeared.

[jocan2003]

That it was "the game he's always wanted to make", that he'd "keep making content as long as people were asking for it."

It was really the abruptness that really soured everyone. My suspicion is there was an internal falling out. Everything is going along at a good clip, Hard Mode is released which they've been working on for a while...then out of the blue Redigit says "I'm going to spend time with my family (after making more than $1 million in sales.) Blue is already gone. Thanks for the ride, guys."

When someone says they're going to commit to their game ala Toady One style, becomes a huge success, then completely reverses themselves and sells their rights to their game....yeah, I think many have plenty of reasons to feel pissed. Not the least of which is because, he took the time to put it on consoles and add some features for that.

It makes it seem like he sold us on the idea of a living product, but in the end it was really the money he was interested in. Because once he'd made plenty, his interest in developing the game completely disappeared.

You took the words out of my mouth. I said there would be X Y Z coming shortly, and then bam i stop because kid, familly blablabla nonsense. If it were REALLY the reason well that same reason was still there when he said X Y Z would be coming. It was like saying monday hey guys, my plans on the long term will be having village, NPC village, new dimension, X Y Z. That friday of the same week he comes out of the blue saying Well guys it has been a nice ride but im off to spend more time with my familly. Errrr what? Where is it coming from, your familly was there monday and yet you still made annoncement of X Y Z and your long term plans.... What did change? Your GF got pissed off because you were now milionaire and you were still working or what?

Anyway seeing a man saying he does it because he love the project and that success or not he would not abandon it to disapear after a few milion bucks made later well thats kinda a frigging slap/lie in the face. Im fine with terraria the way it is, the game is very awesome for the pricetag, it has a lot of fun in it, its the redigit fiasco that turn me down and make me boil from the inside. Some ppl will say calm down its just a game, i dont have problem with the game, i have problem with the dev attitude, its unacceptable in the game industry. Hire a PR dammit.

[Nadaka]

Guys... I can't really fault a dude for making a quality of life decision that he would be happier if he spent more time with his family. The difference in value and obligation between family and game community on a personal level is huge.

[Darkmere]

My suspicion is there was an internal falling out. Everything is going along at a good clip, Hard Mode is released which they've been working on for a while...then out of the blue Redigit says "I'm going to spend time with my family (after making more than $1 million in sales.) Blue is already gone. Thanks for the ride, guys."

... sells their rights to their game... he took the time to put it on consoles and add some features for that.

it was really the money he was interested in. Because once he'd made plenty, his interest in developing the game completely disappeared.

I do think SOMEthing happened behind the scenes. There was a long period of not much going on, then Blue and Tiy disappeared for Starbound, though it wasn't made public at the time. I think at the very least Red knew he was done for a long while before the official announcement.

As I understand it, Red had nothing to do with the console port after selling the rights. He may pass changes on to 505 and let them handle porting those, but I don't think he does any work on that version.

If he didn't care about money, the game would have been free. If he really had no interest in developing it anymore, the new content wouldn't be coming out. If he REALLY only wanted money, this would all be a DLC, coz you know the die-hard kids would buy it up.

I still think this is more of an awkward guy getting in way over his head with his first big project and not having the head for business or PR to make it work well. I also don't really expect him to make anything else, and I will probably move on to Starbound for my 2-D building needs, once it's out.

[nenjin]

If he didn't care about money, the game would have been free. If he really had no interest in developing it anymore, the new content wouldn't be coming out. If he REALLY only wanted money, this would all be a DLC, coz you know the die-hard kids would buy it up.

Right, and in my lesser moments of butthurtness, I give him all that. The fact he came back at all should mean something. The family thing though? What do politicians say when shit blows up and they need to make a quick exit? Is that the truth? I don't know and will never know. But it has never really evoked my sympathy.

It was ultimately his passion and seeming commitment to the project long-term that had me interested. And if I'm honest, I was *always* looking to the future when playing Terraria. What's there is nice but I was generally playing to kill time, hoping the game was going to evolve beyond its simple origins. It never did, and never will. So it's hard for me to look at Terraria without wondering what it could have been if he'd, I dunno, taken it seriously as he said he was going to.

I mean, with a fat bankroll, no need to work anymore....exactly what better point is there to develop something long-term?

I still think this is more of an awkward guy getting in way over his head with his first big project and not having the head for business or PR to make it work well. I also don't really expect him to make anything else, and I will probably move on to Starbound for my 2-D building needs, once it's out.

Here's the thing. Redigit was not a newb when he started Terraria. I checked his background, he's managed some websites that host flash games and such, and I think he even put some of his own smaller games up there. The guy was in the industry, not necessarily at the head of a development team or selling games on the open market....but he definitely had practical experience, both in games and in business, before Terraria. So I don't feel a lot of "fish out of water" sympathy for him.

I mean, even consider how long it ultimately took to get the game out. About 6 months, 7 to 8 months if you add the pre-announcement development time, iirc. Consider what it would have been like if the full release had been delayed a few months. The mostly-complete game would have come out, and that would have been the end of it. Sometimes it feels like development only truly started on a deeper level, when it just stopped.

[Mullet Master]

Sometimes it feels like development only truly started on a deeper level, when it just stopped.

And this is about all that can be said about Terraria. Such promise and nothing.

[Seriyu]

Guys... I can't really fault a dude for making a quality of life decision that he would be happier if he spent more time with his family. The difference in value and obligation between family and game community on a personal level is huge.

Yeah basically that.

[SalmonGod]

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I still think Terraria was a pretty great for a few months.  I don't really understand what this is all about.  While I wouldn't call it groundbreaking or genre-defining, it was the first game I'm aware of to take on that combination of features.  First of a kind games are almost always flawed, and others always come along later to refine on that first attempt.  I thought Terraria was a pretty decent attempt.  I'm sure I'm going to enjoy Starbound more, but I have Terraria to thank for that.

[Max White]

I'm not sure how I feel about Starbound... It looks flashy, but I'm waiting to see an activity that really looks fun.
Resource gathering isn't exactly the highlight of my gaming experience, and so far I haven't seen much evidence of fun combat. Building stuff with others is fun for a while but does sooner or later loose its charm.
As for discovery, I would be surprised if the RNG was capable of producing anything meaningful enough so that things are honestly that interesting, instead of getting to a point where you can identify the same behavioral patterns over and over.

Still, open to pleasant surprises.

[Neonivek]

Starbound needs to step up in being better then Terraria. While the Terraria community is pretty dismissive about its flaws, I however am aware of them to know that I won't touch starbound if it makes the same mistakes as it will just be "Cool but bland".

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Well Terraria if I had to say it is that its gameplay was kind of... dreadful and I still don't know why people excuse it.

The main problem is that Terraria graduates from the "Difficulty due to the character moving terribly" line of thinking. Where the game needed to give you more control, more movement, more maneuvers in order to open the game up to epic adventure... It was very sloppy, toned down, and in many ways dull.

As well its randomized underground didn't lead itself to "epic adventure" either with its original video being pretty much fiction as to how the game was. The caves never presented unique challenges (except out of a 1 in a 100 oddity) or landscapes for battle. They were always dull near featureless caves. (once again something the community excuses and dismisses entirely). Heck I would have loved to fight enemies hopping from one rock feature to the next.

What killed Terraria for me is that it was mindless, the "random generation" generated the same thing in essence, and the grinding.

Yet the only reason it makes me mad is because I could see it doing those things. I could see a Terraria with better controls, with a more interesting underground that conforms to the gameplay conventions it set forth itself, and that is just more interesting in general.

The fact that in order to fight a real boss, a real interesting boss... you need to get to hard mode and grind. Indicates a problem (that once again... the community completely dismisses)

[choppy]

is there a bay12 terraria server some where? i saw some posting about one a while back.

[forsaken1111]

is there a bay12 terraria server some where? i saw some posting about one a while back.

I'll throw one up if you like.

[forsaken1111]

Should I throw up a normal server, or one which is hardcore mode from the start?