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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #945 on: January 17, 2012, 03:29:16 pm »

I guess that Rick Perry claimed that Turkey was run by Islamic terrorists in the SC debate last night.

Yeah, that was pretty damn weird.  I have absolutely no idea who he was trying to convince of what there, because I don't think even the most rabid hawkish conservative distrusts Turkey at this point (indeed, I imagine one's awareness of Turkey's existence decreases with rabidness) and anyone who knows the slightest iota of Middle Easter politics or NATO history would know it's preposterous.

So yeah, when that's the only line he's remembered for, I think he's pretty much baked.  It's a bitter sweet moment for me personally, because it means he's going home to be my governor again.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #946 on: January 17, 2012, 04:33:27 pm »

Quickly, Aqizzar, you only have few hours to stake a coup d'état! Gather your loyal henchmen and get to it! It is for the best of all Tex-kind!
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #947 on: January 17, 2012, 04:36:48 pm »

I guess that Rick Perry claimed that Turkey was run by Islamic terrorists in the SC debate last night.

Yeah, that was pretty damn weird.  I have absolutely no idea who he was trying to convince of what there, because I don't think even the most rabid hawkish conservative distrusts Turkey at this point (indeed, I imagine one's awareness of Turkey's existence decreases with rabidness) and anyone who knows the slightest iota of Middle Easter politics or NATO history would know it's preposterous.

So yeah, when that's the only line he's remembered for, I think he's pretty much baked.  It's a bitter sweet moment for me personally, because it means he's going home to be my governor again.
I think he may have been baked in more ways than one.

"Whoa dude, hear me out on this...so, Turkey's all about being like, secular and shit, right? But they're ALL MUSLIMS! How can be they be secular Muslims, man? It's all a big trap....hey, gotta anything to eat?"

On the other hand, the AKP's political opponents have been claiming they're crypto-Islamists since before they even took power, so maybe that's what he was cueing off of. But that'd be like a foreign politician claiming that the United States is ruled by a Kenyan socialist Muslim, because he heard somebody say that.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #948 on: January 17, 2012, 04:40:51 pm »

I think Nadaka got it right that Perry was probably thinking of, or more accurately somebody on his staff handed him a line to reference, putting Turkey on the enemies list because of that Palestinian relief blockade thing, and he was trying to score some more-pro-Israeli-than-thou points.  Which maybe nine people in the United States actually remember at this point, none of them being Rick Perry.


Quickly, Aqizzar, you only have few hours to stake a coup d'état! Gather your loyal henchmen and get to it! It is for the best of all Tex-kind!

I already won imperatora over Tejas in trial by combat once before.  It's not the picnic that it sounds like, trust me.
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« Reply #949 on: January 18, 2012, 11:34:29 am »

McCain's 2008 opposition research document on Romney leaked.

That's a 200 page how-to guide on beating the crap out of Romney from a Republican POV.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #950 on: January 18, 2012, 04:49:08 pm »

McCain's 2008 opposition research document on Romney leaked.

That's a 200 page how-to guide on beating the crap out of Romney from a Republican POV.


Huh. Would you look at that...
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  • In 2002, Romney proposed installing 10 percent tax on private donations to political campaigns.
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  • Romney once proposed capping spending on elections, abolishing PACs and “tightening regulations.”

How much does his funding total?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #951 on: January 18, 2012, 04:58:15 pm »

  • In 2002, Romney proposed installing 10 percent tax on private donations to political campaigns.
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  • Romney once proposed capping spending on elections, abolishing PACs and “tightening regulations.”

Romney.....Republican.....taxation........anti-PAC....what.....it doesn't......

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #952 on: January 18, 2012, 09:51:16 pm »

Related, Romney tries to ignore the arguments of all who oppose him, same as usual. Only this time it's on income. Fits the mood perfectly.

And so the Obama campaign begins.
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« Reply #953 on: January 18, 2012, 10:00:12 pm »

I should mention that last night, I heard the first "real" Presidential ad I've seen yet, here in urban Texas.  I do see a few TV ads on national cable channels, but when you watch cable news eight hours a day, that's to be expected.  What surprised me, it was a pro-Gingrich PAC ad, airing on a Clear Channel radio station at 11PM.  which I suppose also makes it a national-ad venue, but still.  Also makes me realize again that I'm an odd mix of demographic signatures.

Oh yeah, and some poll in South Carolina (ABC I think) has Stephen Colbert polling at 13%, ahead of Rick Santorum (and Paul and Perry).  As you may have heard, because the South Carolina Republican primary doesn't allow write-in ballots, Stephen's PAC, sorry Jon Stewart's PAC I mean, has been airing ads telling people to vote for Herman Cain (whose name will still be listed) in lieu of Colbert.  It's also an Open Primary, meaning no party restrictions on participation.  That'll be fun.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #954 on: January 18, 2012, 10:02:17 pm »

I sincerely hope that he's faking being a right-wing radical. If you look at that document, he is about as moderate as Obama, or has been.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #955 on: January 18, 2012, 10:30:46 pm »

Romney has flipped so much it's hard to tell where he is. Might as well be random.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #956 on: January 18, 2012, 10:33:06 pm »

It's well known that the only thing Romney has been steadfast on is "wanting to be president"
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #957 on: January 19, 2012, 12:23:06 am »

Has there been a politician, ever, who hasn't been accused of being a flip-flop? And besides, I'd rather have someone in office who changes their opinions in light of new evidence rather than one that steadfastly goes along with whatever they said 5+ years ago regardless of anything else. Romney's changing views make me even less likely to vote for him, but not because of the mere act of changing his mind.
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« Reply #958 on: January 19, 2012, 12:26:08 am »

There's a difference between changing one's mind and reaching levels of political opportunism which cause you to say something contrary to a previous stance the very next day. Romney has reached the point where it's impossible to know what he'd actually do because he only says what he thinks will get him elected. He not only looks like the stereotypical politician but he acts like it on steroids.
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« Reply #959 on: January 19, 2012, 12:26:21 am »

Changing opinions in light of new evidence is a good thing. It shows mental flexibility and a willingness to be proved wrong.

The question is: is that really why Romney changed his mind about w/e?
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