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I am religious and believe in free will

70 (27.6%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

113 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

61 (24%)

Total Members Voted: 249

[TheBiggerFish]

New title.

[Orange Wizard]

I change the title every time someone mentions the title.

[origamiscienceguy]

Nice Title.

[Loud Whispers]

Yeah but you'll just make OW get meta and not change the title

[TheBiggerFish]

I change the title every time someone mentions the title.

*waits*

[TheDarkStar]

"Everyone's a cryptic in their own way"

[Bohandas]

Semi-random note, I misread the title and thought it say 'I am enlightened by my Ethiopia'.

Something something Ras Tafari

[TheBiggerFish]

This title-changing spree is enlightening...

[martinuzz]

Semi-random note, I misread the title and thought it say 'I am enlightened by my Ethiopia'.

Something something Ras Tafari

I and I be irie while Bablyon burns mon

[Orange Wizard]

"Everyone's a cryptic in their own way"

POPERY

...

Also, I'm going to be a colossal hypocrite and everyone to tone the shitposting down a bit. We're getting slightly too derailed here.

[Frumple]

Popourri, the holiest air freshener you've ever smelled. Made with real popes!

... I'll ask it, though, to lessen the post's frippery, does anyone have any idea how well the underground relic market is doing these days? How much would a jar of pope-infused potpourri run for?

[DragonDePlatino]

Life Advice would probably be the better place for this, but I'd rather not make an entire topic out of it.

Lately, I've been getting into some arguments with my mother. She is Protestant Christian while I consider myself Agnostic. I try to be as objective as possible in all aspects of life so I don't completely accept nor deny anything in the Bible. Some of its writings are very fantastic, yes, but I think it's ignorant to disregard something just because it conflicts with your view of the world.

Anyways, my mother wants me to attend church, read the Bible and listen to speeches like this, but I've turned them all down. She wants me to be Christian but I've told her that I'm happy in life without religion and it would just be "going through he motions" if I did all of this for her. I'm not the type of person to put complete faith in anything so I don't want to lie and say I have sincere faith in everything in the Bible. In response she said that she's very concerned for my soul and does not want me to face eternal damnation.

To be clear, I've never been condescending towards her religion or argued against the Bible in our arguments. I've tried to remain as neutral as possible but she's interpreted my hesitation as complete Atheism. I've very heavily stressed that I am Agnostic but she's not satisfied with that. I hate seeing her so unhappy so can anyone offer advice about how to resolve this?

[Loud Whispers]

Tell her you're looking for God and it's something you have to do on your own, and you're thankful for her efforts to help but they're not helping

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There is no resolution that will leave both of you happy. A universe without a god and a universe with a very particular and demanding one are irreconcilable, and so too is the difference in viewpoint that you and she have. Given her behavior, if you prostrate your mind to her religion and walk the walk she'll be happy, but I imagine you probably don't want to do that.

The issue isn't whether or not you've disrespected her religion, your very state as not being a Christian is offensive from where she's standing. This trait is fairly ubiquitous among universalizing religions.

The ideal solution for the both of you here, and I'm being completely serious here, is for her beliefs to become so severely mired and confused that she stops thinking about your agnosticism entirely. You can't really make that happen, though.

[Bohandas]

Life Advice would probably be the better place for this, but I'd rather not make an entire topic out of it.

Lately, I've been getting into some arguments with my mother. She is Protestant Christian while I consider myself Agnostic. I try to be as objective as possible in all aspects of life so I don't completely accept nor deny anything in the Bible. Some of its writings are very fantastic, yes, but I think it's ignorant to disregard something just because it conflicts with your view of the world.

Anyways, my mother wants me to attend church, read the Bible and listen to speeches like this, but I've turned them all down. She wants me to be Christian but I've told her that I'm happy in life without religion and it would just be "going through he motions" if I did all of this for her. I'm not the type of person to put complete faith in anything so I don't want to lie and say I have sincere faith in everything in the Bible. In response she said that she's very concerned for my soul and does not want me to face eternal damnation.

To be clear, I've never been condescending towards her religion or argued against the Bible in our arguments. I've tried to remain as neutral as possible but she's interpreted my hesitation as complete Atheism. I've very heavily stressed that I am Agnostic but she's not satisfied with that. I hate seeing her so unhappy so can anyone offer advice about how to resolve this?

I'm gonna go with my fallback suggestion here, which is to quote Ecclesiastes all the time