Me thinks you kinda just answered your own question.
French prosecution: "hey guys we want this bullshit accusation to go through so we can smear this one presidential candidate we don't like because we're corrupt frogs"
EU: "sounds good to me ok"
Aye. The EU gives such immunity to protect the freedom of speech of MEPs from unwarranted prosecution and then comes along a eurosceptic publishing war crimes and the EU decides it's suddenly ok to fuck freedom of speech - the rights of our tribe will be respected, the rights of our enemies will be oppressed. To me, divisions of nationality are not so significant in this matter. I am puzzled by how for example, just as people assume I would be pleased if this was solely the fault of the French establishment and not the collective failure of the European establishment, they argued that I should be ok with British politicians empowering the EU at the expense of the UK because it was British politicians doing it. As if I was to have blind loyalty and obedience to a label, and not my own principles. If this was done by a state, private, supranational entity, the French, the Germans, the Belgians, Europe or a homogenous mass of nothing, makes no matter to the injustice occurring - only changes who is to be held accountable. French establishment, EU establishment, both are in mutual support to carry out injustice. Attacking both is entirely logical, otherwise the French eurosceptics would be allowing one half of their opponent's apparatus to remain entirely unscathed, when the entire apparatus is used to silence them
Journalists, rappers, politicians etc., the bounds of European oppression are ever increasing in scope. Yesterday Europeans tried silencing those who tried to break the lid on the grooming gangs, the collapse of civil law in areas of Europe and the list goes on to things like the the NYE attacks or the Bataclan tortures. Today they're going after people who publish war crimes committed by ISIS with consensus of the EU parliament. It's a sick joke, sick because you'll never get your freedom of expression back, it will take generations to undo the damage done and in today's world I'm not even sure if it'll be reversible. It could just very well become a new social norm - in this thread we've already had people suggest this be normal. To put it frankly, neoliberalism is declining in the world, and its apparatuses of power are being inherited by far left and far right groups across the world. Then your causes will be subjected to the tools your cause created - thus even if you believe freedom of expression is not worth respecting, you can see your cause is digging its own grave
Well, don't listen to what LW said, he misunderstood what you refers to by death spiral. I don't know every European health system, but from what I gather, they either use something like the insurance mandate (Netherlands) or health-care is largely funded by taxes so death spiral is not an issue as healthy people are taxed too (France, UK... Belgium is also mostly tax-funded).
Sheb, telling people to ignore me is not an argument. I do suppose that shows the very EU approved way of handling debate, simply tell everyone else to shut up lmao
Most countries pretend it doesn't exist and are waiting for the issue to be passed on to future leaders to deal with. So I imagine when the time comes, since the death spiral will hit governments instead of private insurers, they'll just begin cutting public coverage and services for certain demographics. Probably gonna start with smokers, alcoholics, obese and so on; either that, or just borrow loadsa money and push the debt off for future generations to deal with
Allow me to put things plainer. State funded healthcare has not solved the issue, because with an ageing population, combined with a young population that disregards its health, the state tax base is eroding itself to death. Thus taxes will have to be raised, borrowing will have to increase, or public services/coverage will have to be cut. I'm not sorry for showing less concern for the healthcare insurance industry than the healthcare industry, and ultimately the welfare of people - as European healthcare models are different from the USA but faced by a similar issue the US insurance industry has. The USA insurance industry needs lots of healthy people to buy insurance they will never need. The European state healthcare system needs lots of taxpayers paying into national insurance they will never need to use.
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