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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9315 on: December 12, 2018, 01:34:30 pm »

That presumes that someone who voted against her in the contest would vote in favor of labor in a goverment vote of no conf.... are you sure thatss the case?

Edit: and hear me out. So you are a beleaguered PM who squandered her seats in an election, and also accepted the premiership under the condition that she would undertake a negotiation to achieve mutually excluding goals against a much bigger block. So predictably you come home with a compromise bill that neither the remain side of your party nor the brexiteers like. To the extent that they are willing to vote together to bring it down. So you trigger a confidence vote to pull a show of strenght in front of your party. Now IDK about British MPs but for what I've seen about conservatives elsewhere they tend to be bigger on party discipline than others. Its not impossible that she will manage to bring back most of the party under her control. Now she can avoid challenges from within for 12 months, so she can delay the May bill until its too late to do anything else, and pressure the liberal democrats and SNP into voting for her bill with no deal as the alternative, compensating to a great extent dissenters within her party
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9316 on: December 12, 2018, 02:01:07 pm »

This is so, so stupid.

It took Mrs. May about 18 months to come up with something nobody agrees with. If she loses, they have to either all agree on one person to scrap what they have and get something better before January 21st - I think that’s when the EU want something so they can vote on it - or... no deal? New referendum? or go through six weeks of a leadership contest, which takes us to January 23rd, in which case... no deal? New referendum?

What would these guys even campaign on in a leadership contest?
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9317 on: December 12, 2018, 02:23:16 pm »

Voting underway, a majority of Tory MPs have said they'll be voting for PM May but unlike most votes, this one is a secret ballot so they could be telling porkies to dodge the party whips.


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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9318 on: December 12, 2018, 02:35:34 pm »

This is so, so stupid.

It took Mrs. May about 18 months to come up with something nobody agrees with. If she loses, they have to either all agree on one person to scrap what they have and get something better before January 21st - I think that’s when the EU want something so they can vote on it - or... no deal? New referendum? or go through six weeks of a leadership contest, which takes us to January 23rd, in which case... no deal? New referendum?

What would these guys even campaign on in a leadership contest?

And she wasted at least six months to a year trying to do a snap election in an attempt to get a more favorable Parliament, ending up with a lot less time to negotiate than if they had started right away. Not that it'd neccesarily have changed anything given that the same forces and people are in play, but they'd have a larger effective window to work with.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9319 on: December 12, 2018, 04:01:43 pm »

May won 200 to 117.

Edit: So a bit over a third of her own party's MPs don't have confidence in her. In parliament, the opposition parties (Labour, SNP, liberals) are only about 20 votes short from winning no confidence. I expect Labour will call no confidence in the parliament pretty soon.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9320 on: December 12, 2018, 04:24:24 pm »

What happens if Labour does that and succeeds?
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9321 on: December 12, 2018, 04:25:53 pm »

Well now that's anticlimactic. She's managed to find a way to survive with an even weaker government

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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9322 on: December 12, 2018, 04:40:27 pm »

What happens if Labour does that and succeeds?

The parliament has two weeks to form a government that has its confidence, or an election is held.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9323 on: December 12, 2018, 04:44:27 pm »

Who are they going to replace her with? It probably works in a similar way to the Speaker of the House (which is pretty analogous) in that they'd have to have a simple majority and a quick look on wiki shows that the margin isn't a big one, somewhere within the ballpark of 117. So, they're going to have to pick someone that either brings over the dissatisfied 117 or satisfies enough of the opposition to go through.

Also, CNN went and mischaracterized it in the info text above the chyron, it's a no-confidence vote from her party, not the whole of Parliament.
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« Reply #9324 on: December 12, 2018, 06:16:55 pm »

What happens if Labour does that and succeeds?

The parliament has two weeks to form a government that has its confidence, or an election is held.

It'd be ironic if Brexit smashes through the middle of that election because they wasted time with a snap election and they're wasting whatever time is left. Unless they decide to try and do an election within three months. The snap election from start to finish took what, six months? At this point they might as well hold the elction AFTER brexit crashes through since they won't have time (if any) to attempt to renegotiate it, and the EUs demands aren't going to change just because theres a new PM.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9325 on: December 12, 2018, 07:20:20 pm »

May has two amazing abilities: Weakening the government to hitherto unknown levels, and staying in power.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9326 on: December 12, 2018, 07:26:19 pm »

Implying that Corbyn hasn't long-since perfected his purely hypothetical coup plans in a manner that would allow even a single Ory MP live to escape Westminster alive.
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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9327 on: December 12, 2018, 07:28:44 pm »

Implying that Corbyn hasn't long-since perfected his purely hypothetical coup plans in a manner that would allow even a single Ory MP live to escape Westminster alive.
That may be, but the prophecies long ago concluded Corbyn cannot die by the hands of Tory men. If he falls, it shall be by the hands of the Labour party itself

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Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« Reply #9328 on: December 12, 2018, 07:30:45 pm »

What happens if Labour does that and succeeds?

The parliament has two weeks to form a government that has its confidence, or an election is held.

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