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[delphonso]

feelotraveller, completely reasonable stance. In my view, scrapping all fossil fuels and putting in nuclear plants immediately is still the best move, but the longer people drag their feet on it, the better the battery tech becomes and the more possible it is for a fully green energy grid to exist. (Reminder that the longer it takes to do either, the more carbon we pump into the air.) Ideally, though, we'd be able to pull it off with, as you said, things like green hydrogen cells (hydrogen primarily coming as a side product of fossil fuel refinement, now) or other semi-green energies.

[martinuzz]

A new law is about to be approved by dutch parliament unless something unexpected happens.
There seems to be a large majority in favour of making the abortion pill easily and freely available at the GP's office, no questions asked.
Last month a new law was approved already that got rid of the mandatory 5 day 'thinking period' between a woman asking for an abortion and being able to get one.

[McTraveller]

It gets far worse when capital costs are considered (us$/kilowatt-hour):

Solar PV - rooftop residential 2475-2850

Those numbers can't be correct - some kind of order-of-magnitude scaling error?  I mean a system for my house is probably like $15,000 for a 6kW system, averaging maybe 3kW-hr/day output over the year, or about 1100 kW-hr/year.  Even if it only ran for a single year, that would be only $13/kW-hr.  If it ran for 10 years it would be $1.30/kW-hr.

Still expensive, mind you, since my retail rate is less than $0.20/kW-hr.

EDIT: I also don't believe the "levelised cost" number for residential PV; I don't know how you'd get down to $0.147-$0.221 per kW-hr.  If I could get costs that low, I'd do it "tomorrow"!

[feelotraveller]

It gets far worse when capital costs are considered (us$/kilowatt-hour):

Solar PV - rooftop residential 2475-2850

Those numbers can't be correct - some kind of order-of-magnitude scaling error?  I mean a system for my house is probably like $15,000 for a 6kW system, averaging maybe 3kW-hr/day output over the year, or about 1100 kW-hr/year.  Even if it only ran for a single year, that would be only $13/kW-hr.  If it ran for 10 years it would be $1.30/kW-hr.

Still expensive, mind you, since my retail rate is less than $0.20/kW-hr.

That's a transcription error on my part, the 'hour' should not be be there.  Apologies for that.  (Your situation fits: $15,000/6 = $2,500 per kW.)

EDIT: I also don't believe the "levelised cost" number for residential PV; I don't know how you'd get down to $0.147-$0.221 per kW-hr.  If I could get costs that low, I'd do it "tomorrow"!

You'd have to take that up with Lazard.  No inaccuracy in my reporting of their figures.  Still it's their commerical business as a financial advisory firm, and a damn big one at that, so I kinda reckon they  at least sort of know their stuff.

[EuchreJack]

A new law is about to be approved by dutch parliament unless something unexpected happens.
There seems to be a large majority in favour of making the abortion pill easily and freely available at the GP's office, no questions asked.
Last month a new law was approved already that got rid of the mandatory 5 day 'thinking period' between a woman asking for an abortion and being able to get one.

I love the similarity to hand guns implied there.

[martinuzz]

In USA context perhaps, but I don't really see how this is related to handguns.

[McTraveller]

In USA context perhaps, but I don't really see how this is related to handguns.

In the spirit of a terrible jokes thread:

In one you are worried about getting shot; in the other you are worried because someone shot off.

[da_nang]

A "thinking period" for buying a gun, despite there being no evidence you had ever planned on committing a crime with that gun, let alone killing anyone.

No "thinking period" for getting an abortion, despite the fact that you're knowingly and intentionally taking a human life¹ in the process.

The human mind sure is fascinating.


¹ Life, as defined by biology.

[dragdeler]

Yeah it's ridiculous, why have a thinking period when 2 sentences suffice to know whom I want to shoot.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

One is a single purpose tool, the purpose being murder, the other is a fact of life that humans transcended...


Seriously can we make people forget their entire vocabulary somehow, it would probably for the better... I invest huge efforts to create the worst word combinations but my flithiest filth can not surpass what some people fart out of their mouth...


... like I do hate contractions for hours on end, 6 days a week and all I manage is offensively loud farts that are entirely odourless on second inspection, how do they manage something that is so silent, yet so stinky

Life, as defined by biology.

Damn I realized I don't ejaculate virusses nor prions nor viroids, better get down with the pregnancy as punishment for sex model, before I anger the beardy boy in the sky


FUCK EVEN BETTER is bleeding haram? Are periods murder?

[martinuzz]

Geesh. In the past few days, a dutch special ops commando was arrested, and a high ranking chief of police was arrested as well, for aiding and leaking to criminal organisations.

I guess Riduan T. wasn't kidding when he told his criminal partners via his criminal (and arrested) lawyer that he was planning an escape with the help of special forces style operatives and inside information.

Our constitutional state has been pretty darn shaken the past few years. Murdered lawyers, murdered crime journalist, murdered family member of crown witnesses, a anti tank launcher firing at a newspaper office, military commando style gold robbery... That's so not my country, shit like that only happens in dangerous countries like the US.

[EuchreJack]

To be fair, the only reason The US gets such publicity for the awful stuff that occurs there is due to the country being quite big with a lot of people, and a media that is allowed to tell the world when something awful occurs.
It's mostly a fairly decent place.  It's just that being an Asshole gets you elected.

It's easy to run a country with less than thirty million people.  Try keeping it together when you got 10x that many.

[martinuzz]

Fair enough.
With dangerous countries I meant countries where civilians are allowed to walk around on the streets armed with guns.
The thought alone of walking around in such a place terrifies me, as much as I would love to see some of the nice and beautiful places and folks in the US.

[ChairmanPoo]

It's easy to run a country with less than thirty million people.  Try keeping it together when you got 10x that many.

[EuchreJack]

Indeed. China and India have my condolences.

[ChairmanPoo]

Indeed. China and India have my condolences.

Your condolences have been noted and converted to social credit points.