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[ChairmanPoo]

🤦🏻‍♂️ really Lidku I'm struggling to remain polite, and not to roll my eyes into my skull. Nobody has said that "only and exclusively the very elderly die of this". There is no 0% and 100% in medicine. Sometimes healthy people do get the flu and sometimes healthy people do die of the flu. And guess what: healthcare personnel are more exposed than most by virtue of dealing with sick people all day. It still doesn't make your panic justified. Things haven't changed a lot because of this news soundbite

[delphonso]

A woman gave birth in China to a kid who didn't contract the virus as well. Which means it's not a 100% transmission - which is nice.

Coronavirus has been found in feces, which is an additional means of transmission.

[coalboat]

Doctor Li has indeed passed away. His wife is also infected.

[Lidku]

Remember that Cruise I mentioned in my first post on this thread?

https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2020-02-05/coronavirus-cruise-passengers-diamond-princess

41 more discerned to be infected from the nCoV virus as of now from the previously recorded 20. This means a total of 61 passengers aboard the Diamond Princess are now infected from this virulence. This has an extremely fast acting rate of infection... Note that it has been only 3 days EDIT: since quarantine has been established.

[TamerVirus]

The vector of transmission was apparently an old Hong Kong man who was on the ship from 1/20 to 1/25. He wasn’t even on the ship for a whole week before the quarantine came down on 2/3.

[delphonso]

Cruises are notorious for passing around diseases.

[Lidku]

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

Check this biopsy report. Like SARS this virus bares acute patterns of Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). This means the virus is attracted to parts of the body in humans that bare this same mechanism. Namely found in the endothelial cells of the heart and kidneys, which is also found in trace amount in the lungs- just enough to cause "pneumonia" as reported. Though realistically it seems this virus main focal point of vection is the heart- which maybe the reasons of the "sudden death collapse" syndrome we've been witnessing. It either causes a heart attack from the rapid replication in the inner heart or sepsis shock from the sheer number of replicant 2019 nCoV in the blood stream of the infected.

[ChairmanPoo]

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

Check this biopsy report. Like SARS this virus bares acute patterns of Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). This means the virus is attracted to parts of the body in humans that bare this same mechanism. Namely found in the endothelial cells of the heart and kidneys, which is also found in trace amount in the lungs- just enough to cause "pneumonia" as reported. Though realistically it seems this virus main focal point of vection is the heart- which maybe the reasons of the "sudden death collapse" syndrome we've been witnessing. It either causes a heart attack from the rapid replication in the inner heart or sepsis shock from the sheer number of replicant 2019 nCoV in the blood stream of the infected.

Altogether, in the current study, we report the RNA expression profile of ACE2 in the human lung at single-cell resolution. Our analysis suggested that the expression of ACE2 is concentrated in a special population of AT2 which expresses many other genes favoring the viral process. This conclusion is different from the previous report which observed abundant ACE2 not only in AT2, but also in endothelial cells8. In fact, to our knowledge, endothelial cells sometimes can be non-specifically stained in immunohistochemical analysis

You don't know what you're talking about and you don't even read the stuff you link, which actually contradicts the shit you make up. You're the ur-example of a fake news vector.

[coalboat]

Who knows maybe Lidku is the whistleblower of bay12???

Lidku, the video is not proof for the sudden death collapse you talk about. I don't know how many materials make their way to youtube but maybe you should chekc out the situation in Wuhan. Bus and metro have stopped. Pneumonia patients have to walk to hospital when they already have trouble breathing. Temperature outdoor is lower than 40F/5C. When they get to the hospital they're told it's full and can't accept any more patients. Some patients call for help on social media and post everyday as their disease get worse. Some of them are arranged into hospital because this is bad image for the State. Some die before they can be admitted into hospital. A few even recover on their own. Army guard the highways from Wuhan to keep people from escaping quarantine. Cancer and HIV patients are running out of their daily medicine because of traffic control. This is unlikely to happen in other places(probably not even in other Chinese cities) again as the epidemic is already known and new cases are monitored.

[Lidku]

That doesn't disprove anything. AT2 is a abbreviation of Angiotensin II receptor type 2, which even the same report even says ACE2 is found in. Where is ACE2 mostly found in? The lungs, inner kidneys, and inner heart. All points of replication that can cause either a heart attack, sepsis shock, or pneumonia as reported multiple times. Also instead of insulting you can add on to emerging details about the virus. Why do you seem so keen on downplaying this virion?

Who knows maybe Lidku is the whistleblower of bay12???

Lidku, the video is not proof for the sudden death collapse you talk about. I don't know how many materials make their way to youtube but maybe you should chekc out the situation in Wuhan. Bus and metro have stopped. Pneumonia patients have to walk to hospital when they already have trouble breathing. Temperature outdoor is lower than 40F/5C. When they get to the hospital they're told it's full and can't accept any more patients. Some patients call for help on social media and post everyday as their disease get worse. Some of them are arranged into hospital because this is bad image for the State. Some die before they can be admitted into hospital. A few even recover on their own. Army guard the highways from Wuhan to keep people from escaping quarantine. Cancer and HIV patients are running out of their daily medicine because of traffic control. This is unlikely to happen in other places(probably not even in other Chinese cities) again as the epidemic is already known and new cases are monitored.

The "sudden death syndrome" hasn't only occurred in mainland China, it has also been witnessed and documented in Hong Kong. This is troubling.

[Il Palazzo]

I believe what the Chairman was saying is that your words have quality both pungent and ethereal, as if your glutes could not contain them.

[Lidku]

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202002.0051/v1

Another report. It suggests that smoker populations have heightened development of the ACE2 receptors mentioned... What about figures of non-smokers, but have obtained second hand occurrences of it? Or smoke pollution in general?

[Trekkin]

Why do you seem so keen on downplaying this virion?

Probably because he's aware, as most of us are, that there is literally nothing laypeople can do to materially affect this epidemic except to keep calm and follow the instructions of the relevant medical experts. All frantic hypothesizing by amateurs is going to do is spread more noise and panic at a time when people have quite enough of both.

There's a reason I haven't been spamming the thread with sequences and homology models and things of that nature: worried people have a way of scanning complex datasets for worrisome information and ignoring all context from there on out, and I don't want anyone to panic just because they ran a BLAST and found a similarity to something bad or found a way to extract scary numbers from the structures. The information that can help legitimate efforts to fight this thing is already being put into the hands of people who have the training and resources to do useful things with it, including distilling it into instructions you can help by following. All you need to do -- and indeed, the best thing to do -- is to cooperate with expert advice and let people do their jobs.

[scriver]

Chairman is a real doctor, he looks into people's butts and don't afraid of anything

[TamerVirus]

CDC is now evaluating a Royal Caribbean cruise ship docked in New Jersey.
12 suspected passengers who had China travel history and are displaying pulmonary symptoms