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Author Topic: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition  (Read 59472 times)

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #585 on: November 23, 2022, 10:46:19 pm »

A bunch of heroic partisans who were planning a bombing of a government building apparently got killed in a shootout with the FSB, which killed a few officers. Rest well, fallen heroes, and may your peers kill thousands more!
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #586 on: November 23, 2022, 11:06:37 pm »

A bunch of heroic partisans who were planning a bombing of a government building apparently got killed in a shootout with the FSB, which killed a few officers. Rest well, fallen heroes, and may your peers kill thousands more!
Could be a cover story for the FSB to murder some college students. But bravo, may it inspire more resistance.
I thought the Russians used to actually be good at stifling dissent. Outdated techniques in modern times, I guess.

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #587 on: November 24, 2022, 12:25:07 am »

Vranyo; I am lying to you, you know I am lying to you, but still I am lying to you
If people reading this haven't watched this video I highly highly recommend it since it explains so much about the war.

If you don't want to watch an entire hour video I'll sumarize it a bit for you. It  basically says that there is systemic lying about everything at every single level of the Russian command structure which is actually a huge huge deal.

The entire reason Putin went into the war? Because people were lying to him.
The reason everyone thought that Russia had a super awesome military? Everyone in the military lying to each other and the press about how awesome it was.

The reason Russia is claiming they killed like 300% of the Ukranian air force and took some towns like ten times? Because people are lying to their boss who lie to their boss who lie to their boss who lies to the media.
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And currently its resulting in stuff like this, where Russia seems to just zerg rush hundreds of dudes in with no support for no reason because everyone is lying to their commanders and saying that things are going super great so their commanders just smile at the good news and send them in.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #588 on: November 24, 2022, 01:45:06 am »

Vranyo; I am lying to you, you know I am lying to you, but still I am lying to you
If people reading this haven't watched this video I highly highly recommend it since it explains so much about the war.

If you don't want to watch an entire hour video I'll sumarize it a bit for you. It  basically says that there is systemic lying about everything at every single level of the Russian command structure which is actually a huge huge deal.

The entire reason Putin went into the war? Because people were lying to him.
The reason everyone thought that Russia had a super awesome military? Everyone in the military lying to each other and the press about how awesome it was.

The reason Russia is claiming they killed like 300% of the Ukranian air force and took some towns like ten times? Because people are lying to their boss who lie to their boss who lie to their boss who lies to the media.
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And currently its resulting in stuff like this, where Russia seems to just zerg rush hundreds of dudes in with no support for no reason because everyone is lying to their commanders and saying that things are going super great so their commanders just smile at the good news and send them in.

I think you're missing the critical fact that lies need a kernel of truth to really thrive.
THAT is why the zerg rushes occur, the offenses occur, etc.  The smarter commanders are trying to back their lies with their limited resources.  So they send conscripts to the front with no support to announce glorious successes.

To say "no reason" fails to give the Devil his due. 

I think we need to assume many in Russia's military apparatus have real reasons for what they do. Terrible reasons, but reasons.
Our world may rely upon our nations' governments to truly dissect why Russia's various leaders do what they do, how they might act under different circumstances, and what could inspire them to acts that favor non-Russians the most.

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #589 on: November 24, 2022, 04:57:30 am »

I wonder if we'll ever find out why Russia sending all these soldiers into a meat grinder to die.
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« Reply #590 on: November 24, 2022, 05:40:41 am »

I wonder if we'll ever find out why Russia sending all these soldiers into a meat grinder to die.

Putin's ego. That is the reason. Like, literally. At least the biggest reason.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #591 on: November 24, 2022, 06:12:37 am »

I wonder if we'll ever find out why Russia sending all these soldiers into a meat grinder to die.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #592 on: November 24, 2022, 06:42:12 am »

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #593 on: November 24, 2022, 09:56:38 am »

One day, Putin will make a broadcast to all channels. His only words?

"Аристократы!"

Then the war will stop and he will step down.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #594 on: November 25, 2022, 04:27:54 am »

I don't see how talking about a movie about cats will do anything and why Putin would mention it or how it would end the war.


It would be pretty funny if this whole thing turned out to be some weird prank only Putin found funny.
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« Reply #595 on: November 25, 2022, 07:55:39 am »

I don't see how talking about a movie about cats will do anything and why Putin would mention it or how it would end the war.


It would be pretty funny if this whole thing turned out to be some weird prank only Putin found funny.
Aristocrats. Not Aristocats.

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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #596 on: November 25, 2022, 08:29:54 am »

Electricity is overrated (God bless my powerbank and my tablet full of Tv-series)

More strikes on energy infrastrusture this week and many more to come. Winter will be... chilly.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #597 on: November 25, 2022, 11:37:46 am »

Forced conscription always gathers meat for the meat-grinder, and the officers and career military are always protected by that meat-shield. The expression of exclusionary politics on the battlefield is "you go first". Those Russian conscripts are not dying in a new way and mass communication is the only reason you are hearing about it.
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Re: News Update War in Ukraine - Junior Reporter Edition
« Reply #598 on: November 25, 2022, 01:57:06 pm »

Forced conscription always gathers meat for the meat-grinder, and the officers and career military are always protected by that meat-shield. The expression of exclusionary politics on the battlefield is "you go first". Those Russian conscripts are not dying in a new way and mass communication is the only reason you are hearing about it.
That's not entirely true; in the spirit of egalitarianism Russian generals have also been getting themselves pointlessly killed, to show solidarity with all the conscripts they're pointlessly getting killed
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