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Author Topic: Team Fortress 2: World's #1 War-Based Hat Simulator  (Read 820366 times)

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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6690 on: July 23, 2011, 12:45:53 am »

Okay, so I have an odd proposition. How would I go about setting up a long-term server for TF2 while not actively playing it? For you guys, of course.
You could try asking Kael or whoever runs the DFC server.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6691 on: July 23, 2011, 01:02:36 am »

Okay, so I have an odd proposition. How would I go about setting up a long-term server for TF2 while not actively playing it? For you guys, of course.

Short answer? Download the server client, open up your ports, and run it. Volia, instant server!

Long answer? Unless you've got a lot of bandwidth (protip: if you don't know, you don't.) and a fair bit of memory, running a server for more than a few people will probably be impossible without severe lag. You can rent a server, of course, but now we're talking a considerable amount of money (and trust me, it's pretty much impossible to accumulate enough donations to keep it afloat. I know a lot of servers that have tried that, with poor results.  :'( ).

Honestly? I'm of the opinion that it's easier to find some other server and crash on it. Sure, you don't get admin powers, but there's plenty of tomfoolery that can be had without on-demand noclip and the like. Moreover, you avoid all the headaches involved in maintaining a server - paying for sufficient bandwidth, rebooting it when it crashes, updating it when Valve decides to add two new weapons and 5000 particle effects...  ;)
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6692 on: July 23, 2011, 01:56:40 am »

Okay, so I have an odd proposition. How would I go about setting up a long-term server for TF2 while not actively playing it? For you guys, of course.

Short answer? Download the server client, open up your ports, and run it. Volia, instant server!

Long answer? Unless you've got a lot of bandwidth (protip: if you don't know, you don't.) and a fair bit of memory, running a server for more than a few people will probably be impossible without severe lag. You can rent a server, of course, but now we're talking a considerable amount of money (and trust me, it's pretty much impossible to accumulate enough donations to keep it afloat. I know a lot of servers that have tried that, with poor results.  :'( ).

Honestly? I'm of the opinion that it's easier to find some other server and crash on it. Sure, you don't get admin powers, but there's plenty of tomfoolery that can be had without on-demand noclip and the like. Moreover, you avoid all the headaches involved in maintaining a server - paying for sufficient bandwidth, rebooting it when it crashes, updating it when Valve decides to add two new weapons and 5000 particle effects...  ;)

Welp, I seem to have all the power and bandwidth necessary to run a server, but am currently too derptarded to figure it out. Hopefully some sleep will cure that, and I'll have it up and running for you guys soon.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6693 on: July 23, 2011, 07:43:34 am »

Im also sorry, but anybody who describes Pyro as W+M1 automatically sounds like an enormous tool to me. It never existed and completely fucked up Pyro balance. See> Eualizer, Demoknight. Shoot. Them. With anything really.

My point exactly. I wasn't trying to say that W+M1 is a valid tactic, only that that the guy seemed to think it wasn't only valid but overpowered.
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« Reply #6694 on: July 23, 2011, 08:46:48 am »

It works in very specific cases, but only then and not very well.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6695 on: July 23, 2011, 11:30:57 am »

Im also sorry, but anybody who describes Pyro as W+M1 automatically sounds like an enormous tool to me. It never existed and completely fucked up Pyro balance. See> Eualizer, Demoknight. Shoot. Them. With anything really.

My point exactly. I wasn't trying to say that W+M1 is a valid tactic, only that that the guy seemed to think it wasn't only valid but overpowered.
Yeah, I main pyro, and liberal use of the degreaser/shotgun/axetinguisher is as viable as a good scout for close range combat (at least in pubs) because worst-case scenario, you have a scattergun that does -25% damage along with the incredibly powerful puff/sting/airblast/afterburn versatility and a bunch more health. If you play it less like pyro and more like scout, it's easy to be hugely successful. I personally consider the shotgun to be my primary, my axe to be my finishing move/ambush, and my degreaser is really just for utility purposes.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6696 on: July 23, 2011, 12:05:47 pm »

I treat my flare gun like my main, my Backburner is secondary, and my Rake is last. Also, bear claws + steak is awesome in arena. The rake is just crazy.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6697 on: July 23, 2011, 01:25:40 pm »

I treat my flare gun like my main, my Backburner is secondary, and my Rake is last. Also, bear claws + steak is awesome in arena. The rake is just crazy.

I would worship the bear claws if the darn things didn't fill up half the screen. Turning off viewmodels helps... but I like having viewmodels on other weapons (where they don't block the whole screen!). Decisions, decisions...  >:(
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6698 on: July 23, 2011, 01:28:45 pm »

I think the pyro class should just have a complete overhaul, to be honest. Napalm flamethrowers would be great.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6699 on: July 23, 2011, 01:31:06 pm »

Pyro is fine, really.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6700 on: July 23, 2011, 01:34:13 pm »

Update: So, because I am a tard, I don't know if I'll be hosting TF2 any time soon. Not until I get another PC, anyway. The one I have is plenty powerful enough, and according to most of the internet, I should be able to host about 40 players with my current bandwidth, but it never occurred to me that I wouldn't be able to host and play at the same time.  :-[ I apologize if I got any hopes up.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6701 on: July 23, 2011, 01:35:30 pm »

Napalm Flamethrower?

Area Denial would be a great change for the pyro, who's all about the ambush right now.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6702 on: July 23, 2011, 01:39:31 pm »

I actually managed to host and play at the same time on my laptop, and it all functioned fine. Just follow this tutorial to do it right.
http://forums.srcds.com/viewtopic/5439
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6703 on: July 23, 2011, 01:54:11 pm »

I actually managed to host and play at the same time on my laptop, and it all functioned fine. Just follow this tutorial to do it right.
http://forums.srcds.com/viewtopic/5439

Schweet. Gonna test that out later tonight.
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Re: Team Fortress 2: Goes Free To Play with Uber Update "Let's do dis."
« Reply #6704 on: July 23, 2011, 02:28:03 pm »

probably won't work long-term, but if all you want to do is get a server up every once in a while it should do fine.
Keeping one shortcut on your desktop to update, and one to run the server is optimal.
Also, you have to open a port, and figuring out which one is a total pain. Just saying. So, basically, it's a HUGE PAIN to get it set up the first time, then it is PAINLESS from there on to forever ( no reinstalls for updates)
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