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[Meph]

Hehe, my problem with so many invaders is not defeating them, but cleaning the stuff they leave, before the next siege hits... that was the main reason I started modding. My own little personal mod that removes clutter

[tahujdt]

Can I add this to an existing fortress?

[Broseidon]

Can I add this to an existing fortress?

No you would have to create a whole new world.

Only reactions can be added without creating a new world if i remember correctly

[tahujdt]

Aww, I've got an awesome but boring fortress.

[darkflagrance]

Can I add this to an existing fortress?

While you can't add the Fortress Defense creatures to an existing fortress, you can still change the goblin raws by, say, replacing them with the raws for war elephants or nightwings. That might provide the challenge you desire.

Hehe, my problem with so many invaders is not defeating them, but cleaning the stuff they leave, before the next siege hits... that was the main reason I started modding. My own little personal mod that removes clutter

I also hate the clutter that invaders leave. That's why there's a minimod included in Fortress Defense that removes the excess clothes from the default civs.

You could add or remove just the entity-files you want. Just go to raw/objects and take out half of them, and you have half as many invasions.

@darkflagrance: I linked to your mod in the thread of mine, since they are fully compatible. Only 2 minor bugs showed up in the errorlog, and i fixed them. Just so you know

I hope those bugs weren't in the Fortress Defense component I myself haven't discovered any errors in the current build of Fortress Defense.

I'd like to say that I deeply enjoy this mod, first of all, and that I couldn't fathom going back to just vanilla goblins.

However, I have one issue. My troops are good enough to fight off pretty large invasions, but it seems like all the armies attack at the same general time. It basically goes like this:

"A vile force of darkness has arrived!"

Oh, uh, Beak Wolves? OK, set burrows, mobilize army, etc.

"A vile force of darkness has arrived!"

White Tigermen AND Beak Wolves? No probl-

"A vile force of darkness has arrived!"

HOLY ARMOK ARE THOSE WARWOLV-

"A vile force of darkness has arrived!"

"Your strength has been broken."

So, I don't know how you could fix that and it's probably been mentioned before. Maybe make them attack less frequently? Dealing with three squads of steel-armored elephants while dealing with four squads of copper-clad tigers and two squads of goblins while defending from another ambush? That's just unfair! Yet, strangely !!FUN!!

Don't forget that you can actually customize your experience while the game is in progress by changing or removing progress triggers. I prefer to release a version that by default is extremely challenging, because then the end-user can tweak it as he desires to make it easier, which is relatively easy to do by moving around files. Unfortunately, Dwarf Fortress doesn't really respect the progress triggers very well, but those are simply the limitations of the engine.

[Meph]

No no, the bugs where just messages in the errorlog about missing clothes.  My mod removes most clothing, and your invaders tried to wear something that does not exist anymore. Therefore I just removed the extra clothing, done.

[Brotato]

I just got sieged at 13 Dorfs; I thought that wasn't supposed to happen until 20?

[darkflagrance]

If you produced a lot of wealth or traded a lot of materials, that can also trigger swift sieges. In addition, sometimes the dwarven civilization you select starts at war rather than merely hostile to an enemy civilization. You will know this because it shows a red "War" instead of a ------- when you check the enemies that have access to the site in the embark screen. Civilizations that start at war with your dwarven civilization can lay siege to you at any time.

[Blah]

What weapons are most effective against the later opponents? Jotunars, war elephants, etc.

[darkflagrance]

What weapons are most effective against the later opponents? Jotunars, war elephants, etc.

Master warriors and fighters. Spears pierce through to their internal organs. Axes will sever limbs. Blunt weapons will penetrate the armor, but they might not be strong enough; I prefer blades and points. Crossbows are also good.

[rephikul]

dark, I have troubles with your white tigermen. Just to be sure you dont intend them to be destroyers of hope that can win a 1:4 odd with only a single loss right?

[darkflagrance]

When I tested White Tigermen, I didn't find them overpowered, although when playing Fortress Defense in general, you have to be willing to make use of a great deal of strategy and possibilities if you can't get enough high quality arms/armor/soldiers in time. I have no shame admitting that I am willing to use waves of green troops armed with crossbows and bone bolts to augment my early defenses.

Note: you should have ~50 dwarves by the time they come at progress trigger 2. That takes a while for me to reach, long enough to have prepared significant defenses. I'm not sure if you're getting a much higher rate of population growth or income increase than I do.

[rephikul]

When I tested White Tigermen, I didn't find them overpowered, although when playing Fortress Defense in general, you have to be willing to make use of a great deal of strategy and possibilities if you can't get enough high quality arms/armor/soldiers in time. I have no shame admitting that I am willing to use waves of green troops armed with crossbows and bone bolts to augment my early defenses.

Very well, I present you a challenge:
 + Use Intensifying Mod. See my sig for download links.
 + Survive the provided embark without reclaiming until year 3 or kill 10 tigermen using dwaves, whichever come later.
 + Enemies must have a path to your dwarves
 + No walk of doom. Maybe 2-3 tiles on your (non-raised) bridge but that's it.
 + Minimum traps. Each path has a handful at most. Weapon traps can only have one weapon. Trap kills, including cage's, do not count.
 + No weird exploits except extremely elaborate and stupid dwarven tricks. Use yonr common sense to judge.
 + You can only use up to 1274 embark points as in default embarks even though the world gen allow 10000. I typically use 1223 points cause it read 8777 remaining, btw.

Spoiler: World gen param (click to show/hide)

This 2x2 embark is flat, has flux+iron and easy to access magma. Siegers typically arrive AFTER the caravan so you can trade. The first siege will usually be 1 tigerman squad. The second one, 2 tigerman squads and 1 of stranglers and frogmen. The first one usually arrive at the end of the second spring. This mean if you play well you should be able to defeat it in one sitting.

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[WORLD_GEN]
[TITLE:TEST_MAP]
[SEED:3129651532]
[HISTORY_SEED:158289604]
[NAME_SEED:2351902760]
[CREATURE_SEED:2827103152]
[DIM:65:65]
[EMBARK_POINTS:10000]
[END_YEAR:100]
[BEAST_END_YEAR:200:-1]
[REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
[CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:1]
[ELEVATION:100:400:1600:1600]
[RAINFALL:33:100:800:800]
[TEMPERATURE:25:25:0:0]
[DRAINAGE:33:49:800:800]
[VOLCANISM:66:100:400:400]
[SAVAGERY:33:100:400:400]
[ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:16:8:4:2:1]
[RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:0:0:1:1:1]
[DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:0:0:1:1:1]
[TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[MINERAL_SCARCITY:100]
[MEGABEAST_CAP:400]
[SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:400]
[TITAN_NUMBER:100]
[TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:1000000]
[DEMON_NUMBER:100]
[NIGHT_CREATURE_NUMBER:0]
[GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:64:256:1024]
[EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:0:0:0]
[PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:0]
[PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
[COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
[VOLCANO_MIN:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:1024:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
[EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:1000]
[RIVER_MINS:0:0]
[PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
[OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
[SUBREGION_MAX:5000]
[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:1]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:100]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:33]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:33]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:5]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
[LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
[CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
[CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
[MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:0]
[NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:200]
[ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:1]
[SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
[TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:100]
[TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:-1]
[SITE_CAP:-1]
[PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
[ELEVATION_RANGES:0:1024:0]
[RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
[DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:512:0]
[SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:0:1024]
[VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]

[darkflagrance]

Never played with Intensifying Mod before, and so I'm not sure of what has been modified.

And are the results supposed to show something about tigermen? It seems to me that such a challenge is a more useful measure of a player's ability. If you feel that something is wrong with game balance with how Fortress Defense interacts with the Intensifying Mod, then it is at your discretion to modify either mod, so that you are satisfied with the way your game package is balanced.

[rephikul]

And are the results supposed to show something about tigermen?

I want to make sure that they are broken. Your verdict is the most reliable since you made them in the first place and know the concept more then anyone else.