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[drkpaladin]

well, I just started playing this game and I picked the android trait.  I got battery powered retractable adamantine claws.  They were pretty awesome, the only thing was that it also cost POW to retract them, and with them out you can't pick up objects.  So unfortunately I was unable to pick up batteries to eat them, so I was forced to kamikaze waves of zombies, or die a slow death of starvation.  This game is pretty awesome.

[beorn080]

You could always crash at bee hives and ant mounds when the rain starts.

Because there is absolutely no threat in doing that whatsoever. Completely safe. Might as well not even bring a weapon.

Animal Empathy.

[Gunner-Chan]

Call me crazy. But I don't think Animal Empathy should work AT ALL on the giant insects. Since it says no mutants and those are quite obviously mutants.

[kulik]

They're just big sad and misunderstood.

[Aqizzar]

Well, I know for a fact Animal Empathy doesn't work on giant ants.  I have noticed that they don't attack immediately, but will latch on if you linger around them more than a minute or so.  I don't have enough basic experience with the ants to say if that's unusual behavior.

The giant bees were a little weird, when I went to a hive, they were all in constant Fleeing mode.  Don't know if that was Animal Empathy or something else, since woodland creatures like wolves just kinda leave you alone.

Funnily enough, it causes rodents and deer to follow you around like a Disney princess, but they constantly try to kill each other (and anything else that gets near you).

[The Merchant Of Menace]

Funnily enough, it causes rodents and deer to follow you around like a Disney princess, but they constantly try to kill each other (and anything else that gets near you).

O.O
This makes the perk so worth getting now

[Aqizzar]

Be warned, I have never once seen them hit anything, including each other.  You'll also accidentally kill them all the time by walking into them, but this carries no penalty, and even if they survive the attack (like deer) they're still friendly.  Leading around a band of squirrels actually saved my ass once when a Hulk was chasing me, and they blocked him out as speedbumps so he wasted time attacking them.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

Killing them all means more meats for mah belleh.

So it's win win.
How much is animal empathy anyway?

[beorn080]

Deer are actually QUITE capable of smacking around basic zombies and killing off all the rest of your entourage. It's a one point perk for basically a traveling larder. Quite nice.

Also, bug. Crafting a molotov while wielding the bottle of booze leaves you with a glass bottle in your hand and a new molotov made. It ALSO seems like it only counts the weight of the new molotov, so if you drop the bottle, you free up some space.

[Angle]

I've been using hoarder a lot, because I play like that anyway. Anybody else use that?

edit- dammit. I got into a survivor city and now the game won't respond. I hope it's just lagging, cause if it's frozen I'm gonna RAEG.

[beorn080]

The game autosaves, so you can forceclose it and restart and only lose a max of 30 minutes of game time.

[Angle]

Does it autosave when you create a character?

[gilmouta]

So I still didn't get an answer: Where are the shovels at?

[Aqizzar]

So I still didn't get an answer: Where are the shovels at?

Hardware store, as has been said quite a few times earlier in the thread, and exactly where you would expect them to be.  They're slightly rare, so you might have to look for a while.

[beorn080]

Does it autosave when you create a character?

No, but it autosaves at every :00 and :30.