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[GreatWyrmGold]

Agreed.
We could probably send Jimma along with if we were really afraid about how she would do, but I think that the PC has lots of stuff to do to prepare for Foghorn.

[gman8181]

Alright how about after Foghorn leaves, we use the left stone on Alice.  Then later on we can tell Foghorn we had a child with Alice, which will improve our standing with him even more (well probably).  Then after the first child, if Alice still wants to have more kids we can use inferno.

Also, I wasn't suggesting we be careless with Alice just because we can resurrect her.  I was simply stating that as a worst case scenario we have the possibility of saving her.  Honestly I'm completely against sending Alice down with the tiger but I'm almost sure if we act strongly opposed to them going down, it might cause future problems.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Alice specifically stated she wanted to wait to have a child until she watched the other consorts try raising one. I think we should wait at least until Jimma has her child, and probably until said child is a few months or even a year old.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Lot stuff to do =
I have no ideas for that

I really think that some furniture, some kitchenware and some dishes is all what we need

Sending Jimma with the girls is a nice idea because we will know if she'll get injured and may come to aid. Also, unlike Rox and Alice, she is a veteran of underground combat

As for no feast related ideas:

Somehow I can't throw the idea about fire magic enchanted book out of my mind... But without souls the only thing we could use is the inferno gift and that isn't a bad gift to spend it in that way + risk to personal health isn't something that I'll ignore. So, probably, no.

Hunting for an owl  for our kid is also an option. By hunting I mean using animal empathy.

Spending time with Lovebirds  is one more thing that could be done.  We need to try a mount thing and we may pick-up a pet for our son (not as good as owl, but easier to get)

Trying to dig trenches using earth empath is also an option, no trained penalty may lead to hilarious failures but well... It's what makes the game fun

Spoiler: long term stuff about the left stone (click to show/hide)

My view of the left stone situation. I think that we WASTED majority of it's potential. There are no good option to use it and I doubt that we'll get  good options soon

There are only two good ways to use the left stone
1) Impregnate consort with a very nice set of traits. We have none. To get it we'll need to get a very good gift, convert someone and impregnate
2) Convert a mortal.... Problem is that not only that the female should  be quite good, she should be loyal  and suited for the task. It's not something that we can find easily

The best thing  (or rather the only not terrible) that we can currently do with the gift is to impregnate Alice. But not only Alice isn't eager to give birth right now. Our daughter will be just an average night troll (We have 4 traits, our son have 5 traits + god's blessing , our firstborn daughter will have only two not overly strong traits.)
And if my assumptions is right  female trolls need many traits more  than males .

If you ask my munchkin side - we should save the gift for nearly forever, maybe in distant future we'll get an opportunity to convert someone good, loyal and suited for the role

But if you ask my  roleplayer side, impregnating Alice with the left stone is the best method to give total  mental freedom to our friend and ensure night troll's survival
Sending her to the mother with the daughter is the logical next step (hopefully we may use magic mirror to stay in contact)

GWG , don't take Alice's word literally. It was a half joke. She just don't want to rush with having kids.  But with some convincing she will change her mind. If we impregnate her we should do that as soon as possible. She should understand how important that girl is.

And to not make it lost: send Jimma with the girls, she has the best underground experience

[GreatWyrmGold]

We've got a highly esteemed guest approaching. Imagine preparing for a party, only the guest is really important and you have no experience with preparing a house.
Other than that, I agree with you.

[Grek]

We don't need to baby them. Let them go into the cave, they can handle themselves.

My personal vote for what to do with the Left Stone gift: Pass it on to our son with instructions that he is to use it to impregnate whichever consort of his that he bestows his First Gift upon. This will give the first female troll Hypnotic Gaze, Tattoos, Teleportation Tumours, Camouflaged Body, Springy Legs, Divine Blessing AND possibly another talent that our son passes on himself.

[GreatWyrmGold]

We don't need to baby them. Let them go into the cave, they can handle themselves.

Sending Jimma with them isn't "babying" them. It's taking a reasonable precaution. The caverns are slightly dangerous...

My personal vote for what to do with the Left Stone gift: Pass it on to our son with instructions that he is to use it to impregnate whichever consort of his that he bestows his First Gift upon. This will give the first female troll Hypnotic Gaze, Tattoos, Teleportation Tumours, Camouflaged Body, Springy Legs, Divine Blessing AND possibly another talent that our son passes on himself.

Nice idea, but I don't think gifts work like that...
Besides, Alice deserves a special daughter.

[javierpwn]

We don't need to baby them. Let them go into the cave, they can handle themselves.

My personal vote for what to do with the Left Stone gift: Pass it on to our son with instructions that he is to use it to impregnate whichever consort of his that he bestows his First Gift upon. This will give the first female troll Hypnotic Gaze, Tattoos, Teleportation Tumours, Camouflaged Body, Springy Legs, Divine Blessing AND possibly another talent that our son passes on himself.

We would have to impregnate his consort, but she wouldn't care

[GreatWyrmGold]

We don't need to baby them. Let them go into the cave, they can handle themselves.

My personal vote for what to do with the Left Stone gift: Pass it on to our son with instructions that he is to use it to impregnate whichever consort of his that he bestows his First Gift upon. This will give the first female troll Hypnotic Gaze, Tattoos, Teleportation Tumours, Camouflaged Body, Springy Legs, Divine Blessing AND possibly another talent that our son passes on himself.

We would have to impregnate his consort, but she wouldn't care

Assuming we can impregnate another troll's consort (probably possible, but you never know), and WOULD do so (imagine your parent having a child with your spouse), it wouldn't grant all those abilities. Better to encourage our son to earn a gift from Nocteclaw himself.

[Thecard]

Why would a female troll need more traits than a male?

[GreatWyrmGold]

Who knows?

[Thecard]

Apparently, UR does.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Maybe.

[Mlamlah]

Ukranian, you keep throwing around the idea of writing a fire magic book, and i don't mean to be a dick, but i don't think that's how it works. Books about magic are books filled with knowledge, not necessarily magical books, how we enchant the book doesn't matter, what we write in it does. We're a novice in fire magic, novice fire mages don't even write books for novices, that would be like a student taking a class writing a textbook for it, i we wanted to write a book out absolute best bet would be tips on moving forward in the future, our expertise and experience in that area would be quite useful in such an endeavor. In any case, i don't think it's worth the quite intensive time and effort required.

As for Alice and Rox? I think we need to give Alice the freedom of privacy this once, she deserves it.
Let's stick with our plan of spending time fire manipulating with our child and gwen, wait for cherlyn to return and then get Foghorn and his family over.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Ukranian, you keep throwing around the idea of writing a fire magic book, and i don't mean to be a dick, but i don't think that's how it works. Books about magic are books filled with knowledge, not necessarily magical books, how we enchant the book doesn't matter, what we write in it does.

You completely misunderstood my idea....
Haven't you note that I proposed to use Phyros brain in the enchantment? I want to extract his magical knowledge to the paper
Another option is to make it generate new texts like connecting to some global fire manipulation knowledge base.
Of cause that enchantment( as all others, should be done by Gwen)

As for why female night trolls need traits, I quite suspect that they have a different gift system and their own  traits may be more important. Or may not. 

And guys, let's not make long term megaplans that need years to become viable. It's not how young trolls think. And Nochteclaw asked us to use the left stone not save it for ages.
Also, we can't be sure that our son will get the same first gift as we did
(And fucking son's wife..... ewwwww)

And don't be mad, sending Alice and Rox Alone is a way too dangerous. Underground is a dangerous place, it's not wise to not use someone used to caverns.