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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2265 on: March 05, 2017, 02:30:04 pm »

I find it intriguing that suddenly people are calling for NASA to just cancel the SLS because spacex can do it instead.
However the spacex module to be sent would weigh approximately 1/3rd of the weight of the payload sent to the moon by the SLS (according to a source I read. validation of that would be nice?) because it doesn't have to land or even achieve orbit. So hopefully people figure that out eventually.

Though it does raise the question. If they (spacex) start doing their mars shuttle thing in the next decade, would they then just use it to ferry back and forth stuff to the moon while they wait for transfer windows? That would surely have the ability to get to and land on the moon, and often.
Moonbase anyone?

The issue is people being short sighted. The SLS launching next year isn't the final planned SLS. Final design SLS will likely put Falcon Heavy to shame in both payload mass AND volume. Falcon heavy, still being based on a falcon core is limited to falcon sized fairings, maybe slightly larger but nothing like what SLS will manage. Damn expensive. But impressive and useful for specific missions. The once around the moon is just the test drive off the lot, 10 minutes, around the block and back. Don't get me wrong. I think losing Ares was a shame, but SLS is still a worthwhile project and given time to grow, it'll be an amazing piece of equipment. It, alongside commercial crew, is almost a ressurection of the apollo applications program. Not quite, but almost.
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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2266 on: April 02, 2017, 03:10:50 am »

Cassini Juno sent home the first high resolution close up images of Jupiter. It looks pretty. The image has been tilted 90 degrees.

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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2267 on: April 02, 2017, 03:19:50 am »

Oh my goodness. That's really something
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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2268 on: April 02, 2017, 05:22:08 am »

Wonderful.
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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2269 on: April 02, 2017, 12:52:19 pm »

You can dig underground on the moon. The biggest risk for significant times off of earth is radiation and the most cost efficient way to deal with radiation threat is to dig deep. Lunarcrete is cheap because it's in situ.

Alternatively, one could use lava tubes, which would be HUGE on the Moon, big enough to fit a city inside, so, plenty of space. The tricky part though is finding one.

So we're building cities in lava tubes to protect us from the harsh surface world, right? Does that make us

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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2270 on: April 02, 2017, 01:38:18 pm »

Sadly the moon is likely all out of magma, but yes, we would be building giant awesome cave cities.
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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2271 on: April 02, 2017, 01:56:40 pm »

Cassini Juno sent home the first high resolution close up images of Jupiter. It looks pretty. The image has been tilted 90 degrees.

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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2272 on: April 02, 2017, 02:10:11 pm »

So where do I sign up to become a space dwarf?
I am all for this.
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« Reply #2273 on: April 02, 2017, 02:12:56 pm »

On the other hand, even without magma, we could probably dig deeper on the moon than on Earth as the overhanging rocks weigh less.
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« Reply #2274 on: April 02, 2017, 04:26:07 pm »

So where do I sign up to become a space dwarf?
I am all for this.

You have arrived. After a journey from your home planet into the forbidding abyss beyond, your harsh trek has finally ended. Your party of seven is to make an outpost for the glory of all humankind. There are almost no supplies left, but you are expecting a supply convoy before Winter, but it is Spring now. Enough time to delve secure lodgings, ere the rabbits get hungry. A new chapter of human history begins here at this place: Ozibirod, "Armstrong". Strike the Moon!
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« Reply #2275 on: April 02, 2017, 06:59:47 pm »

Hah!
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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2276 on: April 04, 2017, 11:48:30 am »

On the other hand, even without magma, we could probably dig deeper on the moon than on Earth as the overhanging rocks weigh less.
Actually, the problem with digging deep (for humans) on earth is air pressure. That isn't a problem on the moon.


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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #2277 on: April 04, 2017, 12:31:16 pm »

No, the problem is what's under the surface shell...  ;)
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« Reply #2278 on: April 04, 2017, 10:27:03 pm »

On the other hand, even without magma, we could probably dig deeper on the moon than on Earth as the overhanging rocks weigh less.
Actually, the problem with digging deep (for humans) on earth is air pressure. That isn't a problem on the moon.

It's actually both. When there's enough rock overhead, the rock walls of excavated spaces tend to shoot flakes of rock off at random.
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« Reply #2279 on: April 05, 2017, 06:11:53 am »

It should also heat up a good deal even though the moon isn't all active and cycling like it is here, though I'd like to see if the crazy ideas of there being a good amount of water sunk deep in the moon bore out.
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