SCS - some pretty fantastic claims there, check out the extension of Vietnam's claim nearly all the way to Malayasia, and Malaysia's most of the way to Hong Kong.
Had to laugh at this one. (All too common in the world of international politics/diplomacy.)
against international Law, against UN rulings, against basic human decency
We're talking about the maritime 'redrawing' of boundaries Australia engaged in to steal Timor-Leste's (aka East Timor) oil and gas, right? Yeah that was abominable, full on cloak and dagger as well including the bugging of Timor-Leste's embassy in the lead-up to 'negotiations'.
Basic background up till a couple of months ago:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-17/what-is-behind-the-india-china-border-dispute-lac/12363348
Why stop at months? Why ignore the years of continual Chinese annexation of Indian ground? Cos it's inconvenient when they fight back clearly
Part of the rise of Indian fascism has been the vilification and oppression of religious minorities, specifically Muslims, and to a lesser degree Buddhists
Yeah the CCP with their actual genocide of Muslims in actual concentration camps are doing this for the anti-fascist crusade against the world's largest democracy
Lmao
No you've got the wrong end of the stick (and didn't bother to read the source). The 'couple of months' was in reference to the article being written in June so not covering events occuring since. The article descibes how the problem goes back to 1947 with the British doing their usual terrible job of willy-nilly drawing lines on the map in ignorance of all existing cultural, religious and ethnic conventions. Oh and and then they go the fuck home.
While no border has ever officially been negotiated along the Himalayan stretch that divides the two nations, the truce established a 3,380 kilometre-long, loosely demarcated line referred to as the Line of Actual Control (LAC).
It also mentions the the border war of 1959-62. The reason for the occasion of the article (also specified) were the first fatalities in the dispute since 1969. So that is why the events of a few months ago are significant (at least for me and the article).
The article you link in response is a nice piece of rhetoric, but where's the facts? It doesn't mention a single example of its fancy 'salami slicing' so it's impossible to verify (or refute). Linkng it rather than anything which makes an objective claim is very misleading. Or to put it another way the hot-air blowing by Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman has about as much credence as a CIA show and tell at the UN about mobile Iraqi chemical weapons manufactories, and very likely similar aims.
Yep, authoritarian China does some very nasty shit to the Uyghurs, and are pretty fucked in Hong Kong too but that doesn't excuse India's border push.
It's also somewhat of a red herring since India has its own series of detention centres, many under construction, to deal with the stateless persons aka those declared illegal immigrants under the machinations of the Citizenship Amendment Act/National Register of Citizens:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/human-india-largest-detention-centre-ready-200102044649934.htmlAli's brother-in-law failed to make it to the National Register of Citizens (NRC), a list published in Assam this year which declared 1.9 million people as "illegal" migrants, who now face either detention in a camp like the one coming up at Goalpara, or deportation.
https://www.iol.co.za/news/opinion/the-ugly-rise-of-fascism-in-india-44235061It is widely recognised that the National Register will be used to discriminate against Muslims in particular, and will leave them vulnerable in their own country and targets of persecution.
Needless to say China whatever its other shortcomings has not experienced the quickly increasing spate of mob violence that has run rampant in India over the last few years often with the implicit, or even explicit, help of the police and judiciary.
https://intpolicydigest.org/2020/01/23/india-on-the-slippery-slope-to-fascism/Symptomatic of this divide is the issue of mob-lynchings, an increasingly common phenomenon in India which generally occurs in the form of informal public executions to punish an alleged transgressor. Mob lynchings have often been associated with cow vigilantes who seek to protect and prevent the slaughter of cows seen as sacred under Hindu law, and more often than not, target members of the Muslim minority. Human Rights Watch has attributed this increase in mob vigilantism to the widespread use of communal rhetoric by the BJP.
Yeah, India is still a democracy, but you know that little man in Germany close to a century ago was elected as the ruler of a democratic country and 'democratically' given tyrannical powers; led to a wee bit of conflict a few years later. Or again just because Trump was elected "democratically" (yeah what the fuck in practice does that actually mean) it does not mean that he is not a fascist.
The logic of China's the face of pure evil (Saddam's a nasty dictator) so anything done against them is justified is just as broken now as it was then.
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