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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 971608 times)

Akura

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This can be solved using technology; mech eyes that see into the warp! Causes only minor insanity!

Wouldn't that corrupt the mech-eyes' machine spirit?
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Eventually. I suppose if it perceives the Warp rather than looks in to it, the rate of corruption would be slower.
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Eventually. I suppose if it perceives the Warp rather than looks in to it, the rate of corruption would be slower.
Is it worse to perceive the warp or look at it?

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Define look and define perceive.

Navigators do well just seeing the general flows of energy with their third eye, but looking into something like an active chaos rift generally kills them or drives them mad like most humans. Similarly psykers feel the warp currents around them with no harm, but visions of the warp often break their minds.

A mechanical sense that could see the flows of the warp would be reasonably safe, one that could see the actual daemons and rivers of blood and floating monstrous geography would drive you mad.
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I feel like warp corruption is a matter of when, not if.
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nenjin

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I feel like warp corruption is a matter of when, not if.

First, let's assert this as a given.

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Perceive: The Mechanicus renders data from its warp sensors in an abstract fashion. Perhaps Warp Energy or patterns is rendered as digitized swathes of color, series of numbers, pictograms. It mediates the experience of the Warp in to a data-driven display. There is much it doesn't display, or it breaks down that display into smaller, more manageable bits. (Think of vision modes or filters.) In the example of Harpies, they might show as an outline of light or a threat vector number value. I believe this is already somewhat standard technology on starships. They need to be able to communicate information about Warp energy to the crew, even if it's in its most rudimentary form. (Whether there is Warp energy or not, how much warp energy. Typically used by sensors and augurs to know when ships are translating from the Warp.)

Look: The Mechanicus tries to render as much information as it can from the Warp. Rather than creating an abstract representation of Warp data, it tries to include as much as possible as specifically as possible. So Warp Energy would be a background bloom of color, and the Machine Spirit would try to capture as true a rendition of a Warp Entity as it could against that background. Rendering swathes of emotion as changing equations. Layers upon layers of data, where each data layer interacts with the others, eventually leading to sensory overload. There's less filtering of information. In the case of Harpies, the Machine Spirit might try to render its actual shape, or the hellish light emanating from its eyes, and how the different metrics of Warp energy relate, react to and change based on it.

Obviously both still lead to corruption, both of the viewer and the technology. The better the detail, the more rapid the corruption.
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Also, minor nitpick, Harpies are Tyranid monsters that serve as one of their main aerial support beasts, the creature you're thinking of is Furies, one of the more powerful unaligned daemon species.
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Shamefur dispray on my part. I just got through the Word Bearers Omnibus and the Seventh Retribution novel where both get mentioned. I'll just *BLAM* myself now.
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When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.
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Its kinda silly to complain that a friendly NPC isn't a well designed boss fight.
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How will I cheese now assholes?
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Always spaghetti, never forghetti

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Been playing the Mechanicus game. I mean the fact i'm playing it above and over three kingdoms probably says something.

But yeah, interesting lores noises. Even stuff like super-important necron artifacts can have a corruptive effect somehow.
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Well, probably your regular corrupt with power, which in turn (inside 40k) means you are proner to get real corruption from the warp?
Or maybe somekind of weird machine code or informatic virus if you will.
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Necron stuff does do some weird stuff to people. It's semi-alive and has some kind of aura that unnerves people.
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The necrons made their own version of the Realm of Spirits, which got similarly corrupted.  tyvm
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What is he holding in his right hand?
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A melta charge, perhaps? Need more information on who/what he is.
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A pack of cold ones for the boys. He looks like he enjoys a good pint every so often.

I presume that beer exists in 40k, at least. Everyone's always drinking amasec or something, makes you think brewing was one of those lost technologies the Imperium has forgotten. Truly grimdark.
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