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Author Topic: Untamed Virus Containment Thread:COVID-19: Lurking Omni-Flu Edition  (Read 423655 times)

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #615 on: March 09, 2020, 10:08:11 am »

Not only stock markets are freaking out over Coronavirus, they now also have the Saudis getting into a pissing contest with the Russians over oil pricing.

It's a bloodbath today for the global stock market
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« Reply #616 on: March 09, 2020, 10:23:46 am »

Not only stock markets are freaking out over Coronavirus, they now also have the Saudis getting into a pissing contest with the Russians over oil pricing.

It's a bloodbath today for the global stock market

Man, it's a good thing it's only temporary, and we aren't already ripe for a recession.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #617 on: March 09, 2020, 10:28:17 am »


Edit: Haha, my shitty workplace is advising people to use an alcohol-based sanitizer to kill the virus, because they don't know/don't care about the difference between viruses and bacteria.

no, itīs actually shown to be effective against viruses.

Now, I donīt think there is experimental data concerning covid19, but it seems reasonable to assume it works, at least reasonable enough for the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/guidance-prevent-spread.html
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #618 on: March 09, 2020, 11:01:55 am »

Not only stock markets are freaking out over Coronavirus, they now also have the Saudis getting into a pissing contest with the Russians over oil pricing.

It's a bloodbath today for the global stock market
For the first time since 2008, Wall Street shut down today, if only for 15 minutes.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #619 on: March 09, 2020, 11:34:36 am »

I always enjoy it when my friends talk about the superiority of free market capitalism and "listening to the market" and then days like this happen.
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« Reply #620 on: March 09, 2020, 11:55:10 am »

I always enjoy it when my friends talk about the superiority of free market capitalism and "listening to the market" and then days like this happen.

No, when you die from communism (or any other economic system), it's the fault of that system. If you die from capitalism, it's your fault for being bad at capitalism.

Or because "the market" said more people need to be sacrificed to the volcano god, or whatever.
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« Reply #621 on: March 09, 2020, 12:06:15 pm »

ia ia, invisible hand fhtagn
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #622 on: March 09, 2020, 12:08:54 pm »

Not only stock markets are freaking out over Coronavirus, they now also have the Saudis getting into a pissing contest with the Russians over oil pricing.

It's a bloodbath today for the global stock market

There was a Trump supporter on a Slashdot comment thread who mentioned that. Someone was criticizing Trump over the crisis response with a post titled "thanks Trump" and they responded with a post titled "thanks Opec", pointing out the oil price war as if that's a contributor.

Obviously, it's not a contributor to the problem. Cheaper oil is good for the economy, the same as a rate drop. It's a compensatory response to the economic crisis, not a contributing factor.

I always enjoy it when my friends talk about the superiority of free market capitalism and "listening to the market" and then days like this happen.

No, when you die from communism (or any other economic system), it's the fault of that system. If you die from capitalism, it's your fault for being bad at capitalism.

Or because "the market" said more people need to be sacrificed to the volcano god, or whatever.

The market is actually correct in this instance. It's rats fleeing a sinking ship. Heed the signs.

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #623 on: March 09, 2020, 12:29:21 pm »

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« Reply #624 on: March 09, 2020, 12:55:59 pm »

First confirmed case in Suffolk County, the half of Long Island where I live. One school district has decided to shut down(actually doing so after students began to arrive for the day), and Hofstra University closed for a week after someone showed "flu-like" symptoms. There are 17 more cases in Nassau County(the other half of Long Island).

Are there any B12er's with the virus already, or am I going to be the first?
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #625 on: March 09, 2020, 01:00:49 pm »

At least Cuomo seems to be on top of things (actually testing people for one).
This is until he decides to activate his emergency Manhattan Coronavirus plan
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« Reply #626 on: March 09, 2020, 01:18:14 pm »

At least Cuomo seems to be on top of things (actually testing people for one).
This is until he decides to activate his emergency Manhattan Coronavirus plan


I don't know. It seems like a better location than LA, but would the story be told as well there?
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #627 on: March 09, 2020, 01:34:32 pm »

At least Cuomo seems to be on top of things (actually testing people for one).
This is until he decides to activate his emergency Manhattan Coronavirus plan

i can’t tell if this is satire or not
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« Reply #628 on: March 09, 2020, 02:18:22 pm »

What was that TV series where the aliens dropped tall wall (~1k feet) barricades from the sky that separated cities in California? 
That's probably one way to separate the populations. 

Ahh, it's called Colony

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #629 on: March 09, 2020, 02:48:27 pm »

Are there any B12er's with the virus already, or am I going to be the first?
I had some sniffles and a slight temperature rise for half a day last week so I probably already had it.

EDIT: There are now protocols in place in our healthcare system, specifying 3 phases.
Phase 1: up to 2000 people get infected.
On average, 10% of all corona cases need hospitalization.
Total capacity of quaraintainable single patient rooms in the whole country: about 200.
When there are more than 2000 people infected nationwide, these spaces will be used up.


Phase 2: up to about 10000 infections.
When the quarantine rooms are full, new patients will need to be admitted to 'normal' IC wards, and corona patients will share rooms.
There are about 1150 IC beds in total in our country, of which about 70% is always filled already by non-corona patients.
All plannable, non emergency medical care will be postponed, non-critical regular patients will be released from hospital to make room for corona patients.
Medical staff will be redirected from their specialist jobs to IC care.


Phase 3: More than 10000 infections.
This phase is also called 'wartime phase', as the same priority rules will apply as apply to field medics during wartime.
Only those patients whose survival odds are deemed reasonable will be admitted to IC.
This means elderly over 80, cancer patients with bad prognosis, patients that required prolonged reanimation and severe traffic trauma victims will no longer be treated (except for palliative sedation or perhaps euthanasia) in favour of corona patients that have a good chance of survival.
Health authorities do not believe phase 3 will ever be needed though.

Let's hope so, because I cannot imagine how terrible it must be for doctors to have to choose who will live and who must die.

With 56 new cases today, total number of infected is up to 321.
One more elderly person died, bringing the death toll to 4
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