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Author Topic: Untamed Virus Containment Thread:COVID-19: Lurking Omni-Flu Edition  (Read 423783 times)

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4725 on: December 25, 2020, 12:38:43 pm »

My dad was insisting that people can fly out of London, and that we have unconfirmed cases of the new strain in the US, but I don't think either is true.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4726 on: December 25, 2020, 12:46:09 pm »

The new strain has been outside the UK for a while now. It was detected in the Netherlands and in Italy.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4727 on: December 25, 2020, 03:25:08 pm »

News last night was reporting on it showing up in... japan or something, I think? One of the west pacific adjacent areas, in any case. Now that I look, it's upthread a bit, too.

If it's not loose in the US already, I'd be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised to find out we're fucking up so hard we just haven't noticed, though :-\
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4728 on: December 25, 2020, 03:44:27 pm »

We won't find it if we just identify and record any mutated strain the same as vanilla Covid-19 in the testing database.

*big brain*  We do not have any mutated strains of Covid.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4729 on: December 25, 2020, 05:20:54 pm »

My dad was insisting that people can fly out of London, and that we have unconfirmed cases of the new strain in the US, but I don't think either is true.

The first is true, France and a few more countries revoked the travel bans from the UK within a day or 2.

The second is not unlikely, since the new variant is already going around since september.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4730 on: December 27, 2020, 12:05:28 pm »

Our provinces of Groningen and Friesland have asked our government to deploy the army to their provinces, to come work in elderly care and nursing homes.
Too many healthcare staff are on sickleave, and the provinces can no longer guarantee the minimum amount of care nescessary to keep their inhabitants alive.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:What Wave is it Now? Edition
« Reply #4731 on: December 28, 2020, 06:15:46 pm »

I would *LOVE* to take a vacation right now, truly.

However, it is just not sane to do so right now.  Instead, I shall save pennies and take a proper one, once covid is properly in remission/contained/concluded.

I think myself and every other frontline healthcare worker on the damn planet.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4732 on: December 29, 2020, 05:26:01 pm »

Colorado confirms that the new extra-extra contagious version of COVID is stateside.
It was inevitable
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4733 on: December 29, 2020, 05:31:01 pm »

The UK variation or the ZA one?

...inB4 @realDonaldTrump talks of the "Britonvirus".

(Though, a: We're probably not worth insulting at this stage in his/our game, b: It probably came here from elsewhere, we just managed to identify it 'first'.)
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4734 on: December 29, 2020, 05:35:41 pm »

So new covid is more contagious how? It can bypass clinical masks? Lives more time in the enviroment? Lures people with candy?
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4735 on: December 29, 2020, 06:00:46 pm »

The UK variation or the ZA one?
Why not both? If there's two, they're probably somewhere in the country, really.

Dunno the specifics on how it's spreading faster, though. Just recall that whatever it is, it's upped spread rate by like 70% or something, which is pretty rough considering the plague wasn't exactly spreading slowly to begin with.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4736 on: December 29, 2020, 06:24:07 pm »

What little I know is that it can 'catch' a victim that much easier. Probably boils down to meaning less viral load needs to be introduced for a given 'LD50' (or "Contageous Dose 50", to start with).

Would effectively mean that you don't need as much time in close proximity to someone breathing on you, though (roughly) inverse-square rules wouldn't mean "stay safe at 2m distance has to become as much as "stay safe at 3.4m" for the same peace of mind. Mitigation by mask-wearing (however ill-fitting, but ideally not) will still help over having none.


As to how... Slightly more efficient insertion into host cells?  Better hijacking of the cellular factory?  I think that needs study, and what we first know is just the resulting stats.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4737 on: December 29, 2020, 06:33:43 pm »

blergh. I am going to try to get curious about this, as opposed to my real feeling, which is vague upset regarding hopes for 2021.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:Mutating into COVID-20 Edition
« Reply #4738 on: December 29, 2020, 07:56:26 pm »

Love your new avatar btw. Forgot to tell you in the other thread.
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« Reply #4739 on: December 29, 2020, 08:02:40 pm »

Love your new avatar btw. Forgot to tell you in the other thread.

Thanks, I like to think that I occasionally hit a good one! You Almost Wouldn't Know It's Food.
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