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Author Topic: Face Palm moments you had in Dwarf Fortress  (Read 2130631 times)

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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8385 on: March 07, 2014, 11:42:10 pm »

Yesterday, my recently started new fort has been ambushed by a very dangerous creature. The strongest I have ever seen. Here comes Cisli Honuices, the human... CHILD?

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Serioulsy, is that meant to happen? Is this normal? What was that?

It was a were-beast that changed back to human before someone managed to see it.

It happens occasionally, and could have been pretty bad if it managed to bite someone before turning back to human, since were-curses can be transmitted through bites.
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8386 on: March 08, 2014, 02:52:47 am »

I had just finished digging out a mote around my backyard that formed a U up against the ragged cliff face my fortress was dug into. I dug out all the ramps along the cliff to keep enemies from coming in from above... well at least I thought I had dug them all out. So I was sitting nice and snug inside what I thought was my nigh invulnerable fortress waiting for the frontal assault to come through the main entrance only to start receiving a flood of bloody reports coming in about all my live stock and shearers dying horribly in the maws of mounted cave dragons and jabberers out in area I had though I had made unreachable. Eventually after gleefully and flawlessly slaughtering every last grazing animal in the fortress and several of the dwarfs attending to them the goblin army finally assaulted the main entrance and vengeance was had in a hail of bolts, whirring blades and crushing hammers. The final death toll included a few lesser dwarves and a stunning array of farm animals that I had been avidly collecting since the embark.

I curse my stupidity as I bury what remains the poor bastards who were working out in my now blood soaked yard. Then I go about removing the offending ramps that had led to so many lost lives. I have just enough time to buy some meager replacement wool and milk producing livestock from merchants and get a few new settlers assigned to attending them before the goblins return for round two. They come in even greater force riding atop jabberers and cave dragons as before but now there are cave crocodiles and giant rats as well. So I lock down the fort and brace myself at the entrance for what will be a brutal battle and an opportunity for some righteous vengence. The fort's defenses fall into place like a well oiled machine and now its just a matter of waiting for the enemy to charge the gates but for some reason they don't seem to be making their appearance as expected...  My heart sinks. Like a bad case of deja vu, the gory reports of severed dwarf limbs and farm animal pieces arcing through the air start flooding in. My already blood soaked yard is getting a new coat of red paint. Worse yet my master glass maker just happens to be out there collecting sand at the time and he too dies in puddle of his own blood and dismembered body parts. I curse furiously as my eyes catch sight of the culprit. At the far corner of the yard I find another god damn ramp I overlooked. I was so pissed about it this time that I was about to do the unthinkable and save scum but Armock decided to have one final laugh.

"Spring has arrived."

Needless to say I made d*** sure there weren't any more of those accursed ramps present in my yard after that and now any dwarf who has a job that can take them outside has a pack of war dogs (soon to be jabberers) following them around everywhere.

« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 03:07:01 am by Melting Sky »
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8387 on: March 08, 2014, 02:57:49 am »

you need more diagnosticians. nurses won't do anything without a diagnosis.
wait a minute >_>
1) Bring to bed
2) Diagnose
No?
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Whenever i read the "doesn't care about anything anymore" line, i instantly imagine a dwarf, sitting alone on a swing set. Just slowly rocking back and forth, somberly staring at the ground, and stopping every once in a while to sigh.
It's mildly depressing.

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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8388 on: March 08, 2014, 06:12:10 am »

you need more diagnosticians. nurses won't do anything without a diagnosis.
wait a minute >_>
1) Bring to bed
2) Diagnose
No?

Better advice: medical skills is one of few skills where personality is very important. Better to use dabbling diagnostican that actually likes to help people than immigrant legendary that do not like it.
Find two or three dwarves with highest personal trait about helping people, activate all medical skills, deactivate rest and let them do their thing. It is safe because currently low medical skill influence only speed. No malpractices and horribly botched surgeries yet, sadly.
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8389 on: March 08, 2014, 09:07:54 am »

you need more diagnosticians. nurses won't do anything without a diagnosis.
wait a minute >_>
1) Bring to bed
2) Diagnose
No?

No.

Bring to bed is governed by the "recover wounded" labour. Like "give food/water", those jobs are generated the moment the need arises (except when the need is that of a baby or prisoner, in which case they usually fail to be generated at all). Diagnosing the patient is a separate job with its own labour ("Diagnosis"). And it's generated through the separate allocation of healthcare jobs, which is a slow process with its own bugs. Diagnosis requests will only be generated when the patient is properly resting, but it's not an automatic followup job.

When treatment doesn't properly begin until half a year has passed, that's a good sign you were lacking important healthcare labours like diagnosis or the healthcare system wasn't properly set up.
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8390 on: March 08, 2014, 10:22:13 am »

Again.
I have a bunch of nurses who have only recover wounded & give water enabled.
They ignored my militia commander for a year, while he was lying unconsious on the ground of cavern.
E.g., they had 'No job' for that year.
That seems that by your saying no need was risen for a year.
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Whenever i read the "doesn't care about anything anymore" line, i instantly imagine a dwarf, sitting alone on a swing set. Just slowly rocking back and forth, somberly staring at the ground, and stopping every once in a while to sigh.
It's mildly depressing.

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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8391 on: March 08, 2014, 11:55:46 am »

Find two or three dwarves with highest personal trait about helping people, activate all medical skills, deactivate rest and let them do their thing. It is safe because currently low medical skill influence only speed. No malpractices and horribly botched surgeries yet, sadly.
Then, once you've got your few specialists, enable all the medical skills on everybody. Healthcare is really low priority, so the more idle bodies there are capable of responding to a treatment request, the better. (After a while I cut down on medics, leaving the individual jobs enabled only on dwarves who had gained any XP at all. Current count for a 46-adult fortress is between 14 and 32 dwarves for each job.)

If you're feeling nice, you can deactivate the default feeding and recovery jobs on dwarves who will get bad thoughts for doing those labours.
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8392 on: March 09, 2014, 05:36:16 am »

Healthcare is really low priority...

Unless it's lower priority than 'no job', that obviously wasn't the problem.
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8393 on: March 09, 2014, 10:09:34 am »

I was very careful to build a magmalock bridge out of gabbro, so it wouldn't melt. Which means I was very confused when it deconstructed once the magma flowed over it.

Maybe I should have used something else but rhyolite mechanisms.
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8394 on: March 09, 2014, 10:44:19 am »

I was very careful to build a magmalock bridge out of gabbro, so it wouldn't melt. Which means I was very confused when it deconstructed once the magma flowed over it.

Maybe I should have used something else but rhyolite mechanisms.

Yeah, gotta make sure all components are magma safe.
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8395 on: March 09, 2014, 08:46:24 pm »

When I brought gems with me...
...and then realized how valuable trap components are.
So, yeah. Just trade an enormous iron corkscrew to the caravan for a bunch of their random metal items to make more corkscrews with and keep doing that.
Yes, trap components are more valuable than a statue of the same material and quality.
Just to let you know, in case anybody was curious.

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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8396 on: March 09, 2014, 10:29:54 pm »

You can also bring logs and make spiked balls. Serrated discs are tied with spiked balls for value, but it's possibly more points-efficient to bring just wood instead of the ingredients for metal trap components (don't feel like doing the maths now). It's certainly more time-efficient.
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Honestly at the time, I didn't see what could go wrong with crowding 80 military Dwarves into a small room with a necromancer for the purpose of making bacon.

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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8397 on: March 14, 2014, 03:37:56 pm »

Just convicted a vampire in my fort for 4 murders of my dwarfs. Punishment: 200 hammer strikes. He put into his cell and is immediatly freed by the same guy who tied him up. No punishment for him it seems.
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I kept imagining this guy go "By Armok, not the dead roaches! Oh gods the hamsters oh the dwarfmanity!"
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8398 on: March 14, 2014, 06:14:09 pm »

That moment I realized I was spamming serrated discs because I needed to import tools to protect my fort from attack
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Re: Face Palm moments you had
« Reply #8399 on: March 15, 2014, 07:28:28 pm »

Just convicted a vampire in my fort for 4 murders of my dwarfs. Punishment: 200 hammer strikes. He put into his cell and is immediatly freed by the same guy who tied him up. No punishment for him it seems.

He was hammered. Just that being undead the blunt attacks were like a blow from a feather duster.
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