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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #73140 on: April 16, 2014, 04:39:39 pm »

Math is a shallow language. It's good for specific calculations, but it's relative simplicity is also it's greatest limiting factor. By itself, it has no context, meaning it lacks an entire dimension of meaning. 2+2=4, but what does it matter without knowing what is being quantified?

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« Reply #73141 on: April 16, 2014, 04:43:20 pm »

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« Reply #73142 on: April 16, 2014, 04:45:10 pm »

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« Reply #73143 on: April 16, 2014, 04:48:36 pm »

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« Reply #73144 on: April 16, 2014, 04:51:22 pm »

Math is a shallow language. It's good for specific calculations, but it's relative simplicity is also it's greatest limiting factor. By itself, it has no context, meaning it lacks an entire dimension of meaning. 2+2=4, but what does it matter without knowing what is being quantified?
Mmmmm...foursomes.

What, that wasn't the context? >_>
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #73145 on: April 16, 2014, 04:52:24 pm »

Math is a shallow language. It's good for specific calculations, but it's relative simplicity is also it's greatest limiting factor. By itself, it has no context, meaning it lacks an entire dimension of meaning. 2+2=4, but what does it matter without knowing what is being quantified?
Mmmmm...foursomes.

What, that wasn't the context? >_>

Please tell me that's not how you take pleasure from maths... :P
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« Reply #73146 on: April 16, 2014, 05:08:42 pm »

Math is a shallow language. It's good for specific calculations, but it's relative simplicity is also it's greatest limiting factor. By itself, it has no context, meaning it lacks an entire dimension of meaning. 2+2=4, but what does it matter without knowing what is being quantified?
Arithmetic, maybe. If you squint at it a bit.

Math, though, it's as deep and meaningful as anything. It's as much a way to express ideas as English, for sure. 2+2=4 just happens to be an idea about as deep as "The dog crosses the street" - which is to say, people have still found ways to explore and elaborate upon that statement in order to draw out depths you never even imagined were there.
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« Reply #73147 on: April 16, 2014, 05:10:52 pm »

I've yet to see a formula that can draw emotion from me like a poem.
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« Reply #73148 on: April 16, 2014, 05:13:10 pm »

eiπ + 1 = 0
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« Reply #73149 on: April 16, 2014, 05:13:48 pm »

Math can be deep and meaningful, but point is, it's not the same. It can describe the basic principals of the universe to those who have studied it, but not everyone can take the time to make the journey into deep math. Whereas many people practice language their whole lives, far fewer make themselves fluent in math.
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« Reply #73150 on: April 16, 2014, 05:17:46 pm »

That's fair. I've also never seen a form letter that drew emotion from me like a poem, either. Your move :P

Although this guy gets me every time, but I'll concede that might just be my own idiosyncracies. Still, when it comes to being qualified to discuss math, I'm not the best. It's a lot like art to me, in that I like dicking around and sometimes get something nice but I'm not really skilled or familiar with the real terminology and rules that underlie the whole field.

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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
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« Reply #73151 on: April 16, 2014, 05:44:59 pm »

If you think it is likely you will fail, or you doubt the value of SSY(Say Something, she says Yes), it's safer to simply cut your losses with SNY and SNN by merely getting over her. Trust me, this is how my love-life works, I know this stuff.

Trouble is, SN creates a lot of uncertainty, and for at least a few people invites long-term obsession and prolonged, terrible suffering. I had a similar problem not too long ago, and was just about ready to venture into Say Something territory, hoping that I'd get the SSN result and resolve the matter efficiently and effectively, but then realized that the SSY possibility, while remote and desirable at first thought, was nevertheless a possibility, and that I most assuredly couldn't be bothered to deal with it if it came up.

Granted, it's pretty easy to fix the game to most definitely get the SSN result and desired resolution, but that involves making a complete ass of yourself and deliberately sabotaging your love life, and if you're doing that, why even have a love life in the first place?
Well, as I said it doesn't hold for a minority of cases. Indeed that was what happened to me first time I used it, but eventually you adjust. And by adjust, I mean not have a love-life.

Why must everything be reduced to harsh, cold maths?

The human condition is quite incalculable.
If you can't calculate it, you simply need better math. The Universe can be reduced to math, and the human condition is part of the universe. Thus, it can be expressed with math.

Just wait until toady programs his random love-poem generator guys, you'll see. It'll touch you in places you didn't want to be touched.
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« Reply #73152 on: April 16, 2014, 05:58:35 pm »

It'll touch you in places you didn't want to be touched.
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« Reply #73153 on: April 16, 2014, 06:00:58 pm »

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« Reply #73154 on: April 16, 2014, 06:03:08 pm »

I doubt you look at it and shed a tear.

You're... actually not correct about that.

My textbooks literally have tearstains and blood on their pages.
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