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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #690 on: January 09, 2012, 05:08:13 pm »

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #691 on: January 09, 2012, 05:10:27 pm »

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #692 on: January 09, 2012, 05:11:02 pm »

So uh... I take it that Mark Levin is massively popular and influential in Kentucky, and that his threat will leave Rand Paul quivering in terror and not shaking his head in slight bemusement?
IIRC he is a Tea Party anti-establishment figure with some clout. A bit like a localised Glen Beck. Alone he wouldn't take him down. Alongside a more broad based attack... it wouldn't help.

Thing is the actual establishment are pretty much guaranteed to do the same thing if Rand was to support his dad in a third party run. It's one of the reasons a few people have speculated over Ron setting up for Rand in 2016/20. Rand holds a more high profile position with considerably more party clout, as well as real clout, as a Senator.

And also less baggage, I presume?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #693 on: January 09, 2012, 05:15:59 pm »

And also less baggage, I presume?
Sure. Rand can still be tagged with the racist accusations for some of his ideological stands (cf. Maddow interview, civil rights act) but he doesn't have the whole history of pandering to militia types in all their paranoid and racist flavours.


Everyone seen the Newt backed anti-Romney trailer?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #694 on: January 09, 2012, 07:17:34 pm »

Everyone seen the Newt backed anti-Romney trailer?

Yes, and it says volumes about the future of the election.  Newt Gingrich has apparently decided to do what he does best, scorch the earth behind.  It's not hard to picture him still showing up at the Republican Convention to "endorse" Romney should he win the delegation, but it's not going to mean anything to be sure.  He's going out in a blaze of glory and leaving his party behind, because if Romney is the nominee, all President Obama has to do is take that ad, put his name on the end, and air it 24/7.  Gingrich is basically saying, "If it's not me, let it be anybody but Romney."

It's also going to give some Republican spindoctors like Frank Luntz the workout of a lifetime, when Romney eventually hires to prove that he's simultaneously not a bad guy for firing people, and that Bain-style "efficiency expert" venture capitalism isn't exactly what the Republican party has been selling for thirty years.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #695 on: January 09, 2012, 07:26:35 pm »

I have to assume Romney will end up winning, because the entire Republican establishment, realizing he's their only hope for 2012, will pour everything they have into making sure he gets elected. Given the evidence indicates the electorate is retarded enough to bounce from Bachmann to Perry to Cain (and so on) in such a short period of time, they shouldn't be that hard to sway. Hell, just pay Fox News to advertise Romney as the sole protestant candidate in a sea of Mormons and Catholics. I bet a lot of people would believe it.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #696 on: January 09, 2012, 09:11:41 pm »

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #697 on: January 09, 2012, 09:14:57 pm »

Is it weird that I read that as a poor quality sexual innuendo?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #698 on: January 09, 2012, 09:20:07 pm »

Is it weird that I read that as a poor quality sexual innuendo?
No. Of all the options, that makes the most sense. What a horrifying world we live in.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #699 on: January 09, 2012, 09:54:49 pm »

Is it weird that I read that as a poor quality sexual innuendo?
No. Of all the options, that makes the most sense. What a horrifying world we live in.

I had assumed this, as well as (from the name) that Christie was a female politician in the mould of Palin.

Then I clicked the link.

Severe cognitive dissonance followed. Also, I think I need some brain bleach.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #700 on: January 09, 2012, 10:01:14 pm »

Is it weird that I read that as a poor quality sexual innuendo?
No. Of all the options, that makes the most sense. What a horrifying world we live in.

I had assumed this, as well as (from the name) that Christie was a female politician in the mould of Palin.

Then I clicked the link.

Severe cognitive dissonance followed. Also, I think I need some brain bleach.

Let me know if you find any. I'm fresh out after listening to Rick Perry's latest bigotry.

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #701 on: January 09, 2012, 10:35:42 pm »

I found it's best to just watch this on loop until your brain is mush.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #702 on: January 10, 2012, 09:10:04 am »

Everyone seen the Newt backed anti-Romney trailer?

Wow. Yeah, like Aqizzar said, Obama'll have a field day with that one.

Well done Newt; liberals everywhere salute you.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #703 on: January 10, 2012, 09:13:15 am »

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #704 on: January 10, 2012, 09:16:13 am »

The Gingrich anti-Romney ad is also the newest test case of the effects of Citizens United. Why? Well pull up a seat, childrens, and Ol' Brer RedKing will tell y'all a tale about the Poor Elephant and the Rich Elephant.


The Poor Elephant's name was Newt, and he was in a fight something fierce for the Best Elephant in America contest, but he done spent all his money and people were all ignorin' him and looking at this real fancy elephant named Mitt. Well, a Rich Elephant by the name of Sheldon was a friend of Newt's, and he come up with a plan. By the rules, he couldn't give Newt any more money. But he could give money to a group of people who would go out and sing "We Love Newt, Newt is neat, Newt is the best elephant on the street!" and "Mitt is ugly, Mitt has a cough, Mitt made his money laying people off" all day long. So this group went on down to South Carolina and put a singer on every street corner. And that's how the Rich Elephant tried to buy a whole state for his good friend the Poor Elephant.


No shit. Sheldon Adelson, casino tycoon and friend of Gingrich, dropped a cool $5 million into a Gingrich-aligned SuperPAC, which then turned around and spent $3.4 million in ad buys in South Carolina. According to the numbers I heard, that means the average TV viewer in South Carolina will see their ad some 70 times a day. For some comparison, Adelson put in $5 million in one go into the SuperPAC. Bachmann didn't raise that much money in an entire quarter. And Adelson's maximum personal contribution to the Gingrich campaign proper was $5,000. So he's only getting around it to the tune of 1000x his contribution limit.

Of course, the Gingrich camp would claim that it's only fighting fire with fire, as Romney-aligned SuperPACs were partly responsible for Gingrich's recent plummet in the polls with the ad blitz they ran in Iowa and New Hampshire. But as far as I'm aware in those instances, there wasn't a single contributor that was so dominant the way that Adelson is here. This is remarkable. In theory, somebody with the pockets of a Bill Gates (or a Rupert Murdoch) could single-handedly finance a candidate, support them with a monster SuperPAC, and in return expect that candidate to be a literal mouthpiece for their views.
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