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Author Topic: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.  (Read 82243 times)

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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #690 on: May 17, 2021, 10:21:02 pm »

I very occasionally get Waffle House hash browns (much more commonly pre-pandemic when I was helping out on a horse farm, carbs good) and here comes my Karen-or-not moment:  I went in the other day and was, as usual, protein-starved.  So I asked for some hasbrowns with jalapenos and onions, because *obviously* (:P), but then I also wanted two eggs [cracked over them].  I didn't say the last part.

"So, how do you want the eggs?"
*Blinking tiredly, realizing my order's weird* "Ah, scrambled, mixed in there"
"No problem!"

The twist is that this was apparently very controversial to their manager, who gave them a hard time for passing on a weird order and then for giving *me* trouble.  All this, like, right in front of me- I was "engrossed" in my phone for politeness but there's no divider, and I'm still very auditory.  Ugh.

So apparently it's controversial to protein-up some hashbrowns with egg.  Hearing a service worker be berated for a perfect performance was an unpopular experience, for me.

Yeah okay real on-topic opinion:  Tipping is an awful practice.  It originated as a means of hiring black people without paying them, and today it serves to divide the front workers from back workers.  It's the epitome of the Karen desire for control over "lesser" people.

I don't even know if my tip went to the right person there, or got shared with their boss (who probably isn't an inherently shitty person, just hard-pressed by the low margins of fast food).
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #691 on: May 17, 2021, 11:37:32 pm »

Yeah okay real on-topic opinion:  Tipping is an awful practice.  It originated as a means of hiring black people without paying them, and today it serves to divide the front workers from back workers.  It's the epitome of the Karen desire for control over "lesser" people.

I don't even know if my tip went to the right person there, or got shared with their boss (who probably isn't an inherently shitty person, just hard-pressed by the low margins of fast food).
Is this controversial? The only people I see saying anything else are a niche of "future billionare if I just work hard at McDonalds" Americans, whereas pretty much everyone else thinks the idea of tips as a wage substitute is awful.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #692 on: May 17, 2021, 11:49:11 pm »

We're going to get some people defending tipping.
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« Reply #693 on: May 18, 2021, 09:04:14 am »

Is this controversial? The only people I see saying anything else are a niche of "future billionare if I just work hard at McDonalds" Americans, whereas pretty much everyone else thinks the idea of tips as a wage substitute is awful.

I've gotten a lot of people angry by saying rapist, bigots, and genociders are bad. Like you said, mostly Americans, but some otherwise civilized-seeming people as well.

Not paying people for work, because they're doing a "lesser" job? Lots of people here support that.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #694 on: May 18, 2021, 09:18:14 am »

I could see side hustlers or small-town inhabitants fussing to keep tips if the equivalent work pays only 60% of the take-home from a good day's tips. The argument is more likely to be placed with 'the equivalent wage is not here yet, or I don't believe it will be' mentality, and since we can't seem to get a minimum wage worth a damn passed, I wouldn't blame 'em.

Essentially subsidizing the employee's wage  through customers based on pity or social obligation is pretty rank, though.
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« Reply #695 on: May 18, 2021, 10:08:33 am »

I strongly support the death penalty
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« Reply #696 on: May 18, 2021, 11:00:31 am »

I'm thinking of settling myself as gay-converstion therapist. I will take money from orthodox parent folks, and then I will convert their child to atheism / agnosticism / or some version of their preferred belief that does not cast them out / threaten them with eternal hellfire for their sexuality or gender identity.
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« Reply #697 on: May 18, 2021, 01:26:35 pm »

I'm thinking of settling myself as gay-converstion therapist. I will take money from orthodox parent folks, and then I will convert their child to atheism / agnosticism / or some version of their preferred belief that does not cast them out / threaten them with eternal hellfire for their sexuality or gender identity.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Let those kids be whatever they want to be and don't force them to be anything

(Please don't do this it is not morally correct and it is fucked up in a lot of ways)
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #698 on: May 18, 2021, 01:33:56 pm »

I'm thinking of settling myself as gay-converstion therapist. I will take money from orthodox parent folks, and then I will convert their child to atheism / agnosticism / or some version of their preferred belief that does not cast them out / threaten them with eternal hellfire for their sexuality or gender identity.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Let those kids be whatever they want to be and don't force them to be anything

(Please don't do this it is not morally correct and it is fucked up in a lot of ways)

It’s as morally correct as sending the kids to conversion therapy in the first place, as I think was martinuzz’ point.
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Re: The Unpopular/Controversial Ideas Thread.
« Reply #699 on: May 18, 2021, 01:35:30 pm »

I'm thinking of settling myself as gay-converstion therapist. I will take money from orthodox parent folks, and then I will convert their child to atheism / agnosticism / or some version of their preferred belief that does not cast them out / threaten them with eternal hellfire for their sexuality or gender identity.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Let those kids be whatever they want to be and don't force them to be anything

(Please don't do this it is not morally correct and it is fucked up in a lot of ways)

Forcing people into loving/accepting themselves seems... fine to me. Though doing it to kids still dependent on their non-supportive parents is not too great, so at least make sure to direct them to some support groups.

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« Reply #700 on: May 18, 2021, 02:30:09 pm »

I'm thinking of settling myself as gay-converstion therapist. I will take money from orthodox parent folks, and then I will convert their child to atheism / agnosticism / or some version of their preferred belief that does not cast them out / threaten them with eternal hellfire for their sexuality or gender identity.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Let those kids be whatever they want to be and don't force them to be anything

(Please don't do this it is not morally correct and it is fucked up in a lot of ways)

It’s as morally correct as sending the kids to conversion therapy in the first place, as I think was martinuzz’ point.
Yes indeed. Or as morally correct as forcing your religion on your children as a parent. IMO, religion should get a 18+ only restriction just like smoking and drinking.

And no, I am in no way being serious about becoming a conversion therapist. Just my 2 cents for the Controversial Ideas Thread
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« Reply #701 on: May 18, 2021, 02:39:48 pm »

I'm thinking of settling myself as gay-converstion therapist. I will take money from orthodox parent folks, and then I will convert their child to atheism / agnosticism / or some version of their preferred belief that does not cast them out / threaten them with eternal hellfire for their sexuality or gender identity.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Let those kids be whatever they want to be and don't force them to be anything

(Please don't do this it is not morally correct and it is fucked up in a lot of ways)

It’s as morally correct as sending the kids to conversion therapy in the first place, as I think was martinuzz’ point.
Yes indeed. Or as morally correct as forcing your religion on your children as a parent. IMO, religion should get a 18+ only restriction just like smoking and drinking.

And no, I am in no way being serious about becoming a conversion therapist. Just my 2 cents for the Controversial Ideas Thread

Sorry about that i just got really concerned
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« Reply #702 on: May 18, 2021, 02:41:51 pm »

I'm thinking of settling myself as gay-converstion therapist. I will take money from orthodox parent folks, and then I will convert their child to atheism / agnosticism / or some version of their preferred belief that does not cast them out / threaten them with eternal hellfire for their sexuality or gender identity.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Let those kids be whatever they want to be and don't force them to be anything

(Please don't do this it is not morally correct and it is fucked up in a lot of ways)

It’s as morally correct as sending the kids to conversion therapy in the first place, as I think was martinuzz’ point.
Yes indeed. Or as morally correct as forcing your religion on your children as a parent. IMO, religion should get a 18+ only restriction just like smoking and drinking.

And no, I am in no way being serious about becoming a conversion therapist. Just my 2 cents for the Controversial Ideas Thread

Sorry about that i just got really concerned

As someone that frequently posts non-serious things, you are not so good at reading it :p

I do agree with martinizz that religion is a dangerous thing though. Should probably be restricted.
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« Reply #703 on: May 18, 2021, 02:46:36 pm »

I daresay that religion (not any particular religion, just the abstract whole) kills and harms more people on a yearly basis than smoking and drinking combined
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« Reply #704 on: May 18, 2021, 03:57:17 pm »

I strongly support the death penalty

That's quite vague. Would you expand on what you mean?
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