viewing what's going on with the health care system and the financial system as socializing those areas of the economy is stupid?
I'd not say stupid, I'd say naive or ill-informed. The financial bailout imbroglio last year was a massive handout (with few strings attached) to private entities responsible for the mess. They were "too big to fail", but the logical conclusion of "if they're too important to be let fail, they should be publicly owned, so as to socialize both risk and gain" was instead replaced with "if they're too important to be let fail, the public should briefly interrupt their hands-off stance for long enough to prop them up financially before butting back out, so as to socialize only risk". In health care reform, socialized medicine was never on the table - it wasn't even in the room. Socialized health
insurance is a scared, beaten figure hiding in a shadowy corner of the room. The current health care socialist bugaboo is, what, a means-tested public option to be allowed to compete with private insurers for customers the insurers don't really want?
The point upthread about a CCS needing to go around trying to convince corporations to wean themselves off of welfare provided by the corporatist state is, alas, not without a point.
Oops, forgot the earlier "point" I was going to make. Liberal = commie-socialist because commies want to take your stuff (by socializing the means of production), and liberals want to take your stuff (by having non-minimalistic taxes). Likewise, commies want to give your stuff to undeserving loafers ("from each as they can, to each as they need", etc., at least in principle) and liberals want to give your stuff to undeserving loafers (by providing some sort of social safety net). See? Exactly the same thing, so long as you ignore all the differences... which are pretty trivial when you think about it. I mean, seriously: how much of a difference is there
really between regulating private enterprise and abolishing it?!?