So it turns out that world build is not easy and takes more than a few hours to decide whether or not to have a lake.Only one? How big is this map? England? Europe? Eurasia? What?
I have the general map done, but I've still got to work out the socio-economic-political atmosphere.Ooh. A worldbuilder after my own heart. Or something like that.
Well, it's the city and the mountain. So not very big. But having a lake was a concern because I wasn't sure how to simulate the effect of a massive mining operation on the lake. So I am going to go with just a river, no lake.So it turns out that world build is not easy and takes more than a few hours to decide whether or not to have a lake.Only one? How big is this map? England? Europe? Eurasia? What?
TRIEDIT: I'm sort of tempted to write 805 sentences of backstory and start out at level 4, just out of maniacal spite :P.I reserve the right to falling rocks. And teleporting level drainers.
And here he is, with preliminary work done. He's immensely good at punching things. Meatstick McGee (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=742923)You seem to have mixed up the hyperlink thingy. I fixed it for you.
Alrighty, I have two ideas for characters but I want to make sure I'm not stepping on anyone's toes when it comes to classes. Is anyone going for Bard or Wizard?
I am also interested. Probably as a roguey or bardy type.Players, communicate!
I thought he did it on purpose, just to fuck with us.And here he is, with preliminary work done. He's immensely good at punching things. Meatstick McGee (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=742923)You seem to have mixed up the hyperlink thingy. I fixed it for you.
I'm continuing to flesh out the world, but have got the basics written. I'll see if I can throw them up later.Well of course! If you're building a city on a mountain, you name the city after the mountain!
BTW, the mountain's name is Mount Kalgena, and the city is Kalgena. Because I'm tired and it made sense.
If you have at least 4 BAB, you can Precise Shot with any ranged weapon you are proficient in and are treated as if you have the Point Blank Shot feat without actually taking it. Also see feat section.Is broken?
Depends on the type of mining.Well, it's the city and the mountain. So not very big. But having a lake was a concern because I wasn't sure how to simulate the effect of a massive mining operation on the lake. So I am going to go with just a river, no lake.So it turns out that world build is not easy and takes more than a few hours to decide whether or not to have a lake.Only one? How big is this map? England? Europe? Eurasia? What?
EDITEDIT:Ranged weapons are pretty underpowered compared to melee weapons in core. And, of course, both pale in comparison to casters.Quote If you have at least 4 BAB, you can Precise Shot with any ranged weapon you are proficient in and are treated as if you have the Point Blank Shot feat without actually taking it. Also see feat section.Is broken?
Look again.EDITEDIT:Ranged weapons are pretty underpowered compared to melee weapons in core. And, of course, both pale in comparison to casters.Quote If you have at least 4 BAB, you can Precise Shot with any ranged weapon you are proficient in and are treated as if you have the Point Blank Shot feat without actually taking it. Also see feat section.Is broken?
We have a wizard, a bard, and a monk. Probably a rogue, too. We have the skillmonkey, the mage, a support guy, and whatever the monk is supposed to be.
I'll take a druid.
I'd like to know what books we are and aren't allowed to use. Can you explain what you're doing with Level Adjustment (incase I go with a tiefling), since that isn't particularly clear to me...1. I don't believe in limiting character options, so any book is okay, even 3.0
If rocks fall and everyone dies, could I use my strength to catch the rocks?1. That would be a Reflex save. Or Snatch Arrows.
EDITEDIT:Quote If you have at least 4 BAB, you can Precise Shot with any ranged weapon you are proficient in and are treated as if you have the Point Blank Shot feat without actually taking it. Also see feat section.Is broken?
True. The specifics of that are still being worked on. I may have to consult a geology reference of some sort.Depends on the type of mining.Well, it's the city and the mountain. So not very big. But having a lake was a concern because I wasn't sure how to simulate the effect of a massive mining operation on the lake. So I am going to go with just a river, no lake.So it turns out that world build is not easy and takes more than a few hours to decide whether or not to have a lake.Only one? How big is this map? England? Europe? Eurasia? What?
Character stats and stuff are all done. Backstory is coming via PM later. I'd rather have descriptions and backstory and whatnot to come to the others naturally throught the campaign instead of everyone immediately knowing from the start, but that's just me.You know, that's a good idea. I think I'll do that with my backstory, although I doubt anything on my description requires more than a casual glance.
Alaris Valentis, Half-Elf Bard (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=743319)
I'll just upload most of the basic information now, and fill it in as we go.Character stats and stuff are all done. Backstory is coming via PM later. I'd rather have descriptions and backstory and whatnot to come to the others naturally throught the campaign instead of everyone immediately knowing from the start, but that's just me.You know, that's a good idea. I think I'll do that with my backstory, although I doubt anything on my description requires more than a casual glance.
Alaris Valentis, Half-Elf Bard (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=743319)
Is it too late to join?I say stealth-trained Scout, personally.
EDIT: I'd like to play as a Crusader, Warmage, Warlock, or Scout, I think. Anyone have a suggestion or desire as to which?
Would it be possible to voluntarily start with a lowered Sanity score, in exchange for something else (or not in exchange; a bonus feat(Force of Personality, to be specific) is all I was thinking of)?
SECONDEDIT: Ah yes, and can we lower scores below 8 for more points?
Is it too late to join?1. Not at all.
EDIT: I'd like to play as a Crusader, Warmage, Warlock, or Scout, I think. Anyone have a suggestion or desire as to which?
Would it be possible to voluntarily start with a lowered Sanity score, in exchange for something else (or not in exchange; a bonus feat(Force of Personality, to be specific) is all I was thinking of)?
SECONDEDIT: Ah yes, and can we lower scores below 8 for more points?
Hmmm. Well, rechecking, Paladin seems rather attractive as well, whilst Warmage is less so.You could try Monkey Grip or Powerful Build if you want to wield a reach weapon one-handed. I even have a way you can get Powerful Build LA-free!
And of course, Ranger is probably going to end up being a better class than Scout...I suppose I could do a Swift Hunter, but it's just not the same. :(
Osoero the Insane Warlock, meanwhile, is quite viable, and I still wonder what the other ToB classes would be like.
What type of Wizard and Cleric are we going to have?
EDIT: Could I request the range increments of some weapons(thrown ones in particular) be increased? Or possibly based on strength score?
And could anyone with +4 BAB have Quick Draw effectively as a Bonus Feat?
Question about Crusader; Could there be stance retraining? As it is now, a single-classed Crusader cannot get their highest level stances, because they don't gain any stances after they become available. This is dumb.
Can we present Prestige Classes? I don't expect them to be taken as is, certainly, and indeed I personally would welcome input on it/them, but it'd be nice, especially as Prestige classes are kinda the thing that's meant to be how you make your abstract stats and such represent the badass locked in your head.
Finally, could I request a change to tower shields and/or a one-handed reach weapon(probably exotic)?
MOAREDIT: Actually, with how you can train to be proficient in exotic weapons, does Exotic Weapon Proficiency need a feat? I think it would make more sense if you could be proficient in whatever (maybe a limit of one weapon) provided you had a sufficiently sensible backstory. Also, the weapon couldn't be too ridiculous. Knowing how to use a repeating crossbow might be something you'd learn in a very well-equipped mercenary band or the like, and if you were raised by dwarves, you might know how to use the dwarven waraxe, but since the spiked chain is a ridiculous weapon in and of itself, you're unlikely to know how to use it without hurting yourself without some serious training. Similarly, unless you were a slave master, how would you know how to use a whip in combat?
-snip-1. Lets say that thrown wepon range increases five feet for each bonus to STR or ranged BAB, whichever is lower.
Can I become more proficient with my natural weapons instead? I intend to avoid weapons like the plague.-snip-1. Lets say that thrown wepon range increases five feet for each bonus to STR or ranged BAB, whichever is lower.
2. Let me get back to you. I need to review that material.
3. Sure.
4. What?
5. I'm going to say that everyone gets one extra proficency as a bonus feat. However, to take a martial weapon, you must be profiecent in all simple weapons. The same goes for exotic: you must be profiecent with all martial weapons.
5. I'm going to say that everyone gets one extra proficency as a bonus feat. However, to take a martial weapon, you must be profiecent in all simple weapons. The same goes for exotic: you must be profiecent with all martial weapons.Can I become more proficient with my natural weapons instead? I intend to avoid weapons like the plague.
How do you propose to become more proficient with them?5. I'm going to say that everyone gets one extra proficency as a bonus feat. However, to take a martial weapon, you must be profiecent in all simple weapons. The same goes for exotic: you must be profiecent with all martial weapons.Can I become more proficient with my natural weapons instead? I intend to avoid weapons like the plague.
We're Urban(and I'm a Crusader, not a Paladin),so footsoldier.Tis a great benefit of the Monk. You get Improved Disarm for free.
Shield versus Two-Hander depends on the GMs willingness to take those suggestions and my willingness to not be using an oversized flail.
I like flails. A lot.
Also, I feel as though Combat Expertise is one of those feats like Point Blank Shot or Power Attack that should just be automatic at a certain point.
This has nothing to do with my desire to be able to get Improved Trip and Improved Disarm more easily should I choose a flail.
It's hard to tell what you're asking "what" about, but I assume Tower Shields and one-handed reach weapons.Yes.
Well, first off, I think all shields should give you a bonus to your Reflex Save equal to half their AC bonus. Or their AC bonus. Whichever. It makes sense to me, and feats like Shield Wall use it. Speaking of which, that seems like a simple maneuver that anyone trained with a tower shield or heavy shield should be able to do....I'm putting this up to a vote. Should shields grant half their bonus to Reflex? Also, let's say that you can do it untrained, but if you don't have that feat, you only gain +1. If you have the feat, you gain +4 instead on +2.
Additionally, if I'm wearing a shield(especially a tower shield) on my back, I think it should provide a bonus of some sort(only whilst my back is turned, and wouldn't stack with a shield I was holding, but if I'm using a crossbow for example...there's a reason Pavise shields were used. Or just make it so you can reload a crossbow even while wearing a shield(it's not as if your arm will fall off because you let go of the shield handle for a few seconds...)Shields worn on the back apply only when you would be flatfooted. And it's more then just letting go; a loose shield would interfere with your attempts to do much. So, you can drop it, reload, and pick it up again.
But as for tower shields specifically...I'd really like and I feel as though some of the following should be done to them, possibly all:New extra: Tower Shield Stand. +10 gp, +5 lbs. You can plant a Tower Shield as a move action. It now acts as full cover and concealment. It provides no AC bonus when planted. Picking it up again is a move action.Not give the -1 to hit with them;Nope. This stays. It's -2, also.
'Block' spells when being used for cover; Gives AC bonus to resist.Not give total cover, just 9/10ths or something(cover should give bigger bonuses to reflex saves, too...)This DM's making a new rule!
Be able to shield bash(speaking of which, shield bashes should do more damage; Spartan/Greek Hoplite shields were as deadly as their spears...), perhaps for a little less than a heavy shield, but still. Maybe only on a charge or something when you can get enough weight behind them. Sure. Shield Bash on Charges.Not weigh stupidly ridiculous amounts. Seriously, they weigh more than full plate. That's just dumb. 25 to 30 pounds, maybe. Not 50. 50 would be for a steel one. A solid steel one. Which, by the way, if it was two feet by four feet, would be about 4 millimeters thick. Stupidly thick. Even at a meter by two meters, it would be fairly close to plate armor thickness. (1.45 millimeters, versus 16 gauge (the thinnest typically used) which is 1.59) If it's made of wood...oak has about a tenth the density of steel, meaning a centimeter and a half or so of oak would be fifty pounds, if it was 1x2 meters.It's 45 pounds. If you want it lighter, make it from Darkwood. You have the cash.
Plus, 50 pounds is just ridiculous to carry into battle.It's eight to ten square feet of solid steel! It's supposed to be heavy.
For the exotic weapon, would this work?Looks fine.
General note: I'm working on the Insanity rules, so send in your Sanity scores so I know who's unstable.
1d10; 20/x3; Piercing; Can be set against a charge; Reach*; 7 lbs.; 20 gp; Can be used as a martial weapon in two hands.
[Should shields grant half their bonus to Reflex?No. Reflex is for dodging. Most things you would use a shield for are covered by AC anyway. You wouldn't try to dodge a giant swinging blade trap or a spike pit by blocking it with your shield, would you?
It's eight to ten square feet of solid steel! It's supposed to be heavy.Aren't tower shields wooden?
...and masterwork items in particular.What's wrong with them?
Yep. My bad.It's eight to ten square feet of solid steel! It's supposed to be heavy.Aren't tower shields wooden?
Also, Remuthra's character is ridiculous.Believe me, I put together all my templating fu to crazy-ify his strength. That happened to raise his Constitution to 2o, too. The feats are monk bonus combined with the proficiency extra, my two normal feats, and my Mental Insanity feat. Believe me, the build comes with copious drawbacks. I pacify the waiting meteors/moonbeasts/fortieth level assassins by pointing out that he is a monk, and that if he had gone with a fighter instead, which is still Tier 5, and taken half-plate and a fullblade with proficiency, he would have 21 AC, a main attack at +25 and 4d8+23 damage, and gold left over for more things. Monks are espoused as terrible in the rules three separate times for a reason :P.
I'm also fairly sure that if a template is added to a creature that is stronger than the original template, realistically it wouldn't get a bonus...bah.
I'm not sure how he got that much of a bonus to HP, or all those feats, either...
At least my AC is higher.
Meh, it just made me more determined to contribute.Toughness is always good. That's about all I can think of, though, unless you want to try for Evasion.
By which I mean taking the Protection Devotion feat.
Immaterial, can I ask for a change to Improved Shield Bash to also boost shield bash damage die by one step, and to let me bash with a tower shield outside of a charge?
Additionally, in the spirit of the rules once more, could I expend manuevers for uses of Protection Devotion, since Crusaders supposedly get them from their god and the Devotion feats can use Turn Undead attempts?
Is there feat retraining? Stone Power is good at low levels, but shitty at higher ones...
Any other good feats you guys can think of that will help me keep everyone else alive? I am tank, after all, not necessarily damage dealer(speaking of which, should I switch my Constitution and Strength?).
Immaterial, can I ask for a change to Improved Shield Bash to also boost shield bash damage die by one step, and to let me bash with a tower shield outside of a charge?1. Yes.
Additionally, in the spirit of the rules once more, could I expend manuevers for uses of Protection Devotion, since Crusaders supposedly get them from their god and the Devotion feats can use Turn Undead attempts?
Is there feat retraining? Stone Power is good at low levels, but shitty at higher ones...
especially combined with the possibility of having magic gear from the get-go since it's cheaper and we have more money...Don't we have considerably less? Last I checked, the formula for Wealth by Level was Level^3 x 1000.
Let's see... Google? What monsters have touch attacks? Rust Monsters can destroy a 10 foot cube of metal instantly with a successful touch attack? Sexy.You may notice I have only one metal item on me. This is intentional :P.
Let's see... Google? What monsters have touch attacks? Rust Monsters can destroy a 10 foot cube of metal instantly with a successful touch attack? Sexy.That's what Shield Ward with a Darkwood Tower Shield will be for.
Actually, it's 900 at Level 2, 2700 at level 3.especially combined with the possibility of having magic gear from the get-go since it's cheaper and we have more money...Don't we have considerably less? Last I checked, the formula for Wealth by Level was Level^3 x 1000.
That sounds wrong, especially how you have 100 gp at first level.especially combined with the possibility of having magic gear from the get-go since it's cheaper and we have more money...Don't we have considerably less? Last I checked, the formula for Wealth by Level was Level^3 x 1000.
I believe first level is exempt anyway since different classes have different amounts of money to start, but after that it may be [3^Level]*100 wealth.That sounds wrong, especially how you have 100 gp at first level.especially combined with the possibility of having magic gear from the get-go since it's cheaper and we have more money...Don't we have considerably less? Last I checked, the formula for Wealth by Level was Level^3 x 1000.
Might be, and I'm misremembering my formula slightly. That's 800 gp, not 900, at second level, though.I believe first level is exempt anyway since different classes have different amounts of money to start, but after that it may be [3^Level]*100 wealth.That sounds wrong, especially how you have 100 gp at first level.especially combined with the possibility of having magic gear from the get-go since it's cheaper and we have more money...Don't we have considerably less? Last I checked, the formula for Wealth by Level was Level^3 x 1000.
Otherwise, 2^3=8, times 1000 is 8000 gp at level 2. No.
No, it's 900. I remember that just fine. Even looked it up to make sure.Or a hundred. As I said, I worked out the formula for it a while ago, so my memory may have rounding errors. Now that I think about it, it may indeed have been a hundred.
But you formula would've been 8000, since you said multiply by a thousand.
Anyway, Immaterial, can I exchange Concentration for Handle Animal as a class skill? And Jump for Survival?Only if you can explain it through your backstory.
Oh, and Immaterial, I have some Riding Dogs as pets, could I possibly be allowed to change their Alertness feat to something less terrible? They're supposed to be the equivalent of Alaskan huskies and she's grown up with them/their parents, that's why they're with her.Toughness, unless you have another thematic suggestion.
Less likely to be accepted, could they take Flaws?What were you thinking?
Edit: I want to get Shield Ward, but Shield Specialization is completely useless to me as I cannot use it with Tower Shields. This frustrates me. Would the DM be willing to compromise on this point? (I don't want to get it yet, but if I'm gonna have a tower shield...)Yes, I'll let you get away with that.
Got a question for the DM: Would you allow Abrupt Jaunt for a specialist wizard? Because if you are, then I know right now what I'm going to do. Keep in mind, it makes things quite a bit safer for me and more difficult for you if you allow it.Of course it does. You can teleport out of the way of falling death rocks.
Immaterial, if I give one of my Hounds Improved Unarmed Strike, could he gain 2 1d6(or 1d4) claw attacks as secondary natural weapons?1.Yes.
EDIT: I ask because I can't use Multi-Attack very well otherwise; it's fine if not.
DOUBLEEDIT: Also could I switch out Track for a different feat? It would make sense still, I think.
TRIPLEEDIT: Since dogs can make trip attacks and such, would they count as having Improved Trip for the purposes of qualifying for feats?
BEHOLDTHEQUADRUPLEEDIT: So...the whole Smite 1/day is stupid. Can I just replace that class feature with something else? And if I can, could it be Animal Companion like a ranger? I understand if not, but I'd still like to change it to SOMETHING else.
Ok, I just updated my sheet. I got some questions for the DM again though:http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Scrolls
How much does it cost to buy 1st and second level scrolls? And how much does it cost to scribe the contents of a scroll into my spellbook? Other than the description and backstory, am I missing anything?
Sorry, have been away. Reading through the thread and will try to get on with a sheet.Sneaking and Information Gathering would be good things to specialize in. We have no one to my knowledge who can hide or move silently, and nobody has Knowledge (Local) or Streetwise. Bluff could always be fun, as well.
Since there is a bardy type I might well just be a roguey type. Since I haven't read the last 3 pages yet please make any suggestions if I should make him good at anything in particular.
Streetwise? Did I miss something? I mean, yes, I did, but what?Gather Information. Different names, same skill :P.
Streetwise? Did I miss something? I mean, yes, I did, but what?Streetwise is a 4e skill. It combines Knowledge (Local), Gather Information, and other city related skills.
Okay, well, I will try to come up with a decent idea for something sneaky and information gatheringy.Roleplaywise? Because the mechanics are really easy to set up.
Um.
Those are some powerful doggies. I know who will be tanking shots here.I stand by my statement.
If GWG isn't playing have you got enough players?Six with Weirdsound.
Since we have a bard, is it worth me being a slightly social rogue? Or purely sneakystabby? I think I prefer the former. Not decided though and wondering what would be more useful group-wise.Well I have all my points in bluff. You could put points into other thiefly things like picking pockets and locks
Also, I'm not sure it's really viable to play with. I mean, the number when the bad stuff starts kicking in is a bit high for my tastes, since we don't really start with all that many sanity points in the first place, and there are spells out there that can really mess us up quickly. A single ray of stupidity for example, that's a first level spell by the way, does something like 1d4+1 per 2 levels, and we are all starting out with around 11 points of sanity!Thats a good point. I'll change that to [naverage of mental scores] + Will + Level. Mental stat damage does half damage, and the symptoms take 1d10 days to manifest.
Well, I guess my mental problems are cured now :P.Also, I'm not sure it's really viable to play with. I mean, the number when the bad stuff starts kicking in is a bit high for my tastes, since we don't really start with all that many sanity points in the first place, and there are spells out there that can really mess us up quickly. A single ray of stupidity for example, that's a first level spell by the way, does something like 1d4+1 per 2 levels, and we are all starting out with around 11 points of sanity!Thats a good point. I'll change that to [naverage of mental scores] + Will + Level. Mental stat damage does half damage, and the symptoms take 1d10 days to manifest.
FIFY. MUHAHAHA!Well, I guess my mental problems are cured for now :P.Also, I'm not sure it's really viable to play with. I mean, the number when the bad stuff starts kicking in is a bit high for my tastes, since we don't really start with all that many sanity points in the first place, and there are spells out there that can really mess us up quickly. A single ray of stupidity for example, that's a first level spell by the way, does something like 1d4+1 per 2 levels, and we are all starting out with around 11 points of sanity!Thats a good point. I'll change that to [naverage of mental scores] + Will + Level. Mental stat damage does half damage, and the symptoms take 1d10 days to manifest.
Oh, don't you worry. Just make sure when I go insane I have enough things to smash in blind rage :D.FIFY. MUHAHAHA!Well, I guess my mental problems are cured for now :P.Also, I'm not sure it's really viable to play with. I mean, the number when the bad stuff starts kicking in is a bit high for my tastes, since we don't really start with all that many sanity points in the first place, and there are spells out there that can really mess us up quickly. A single ray of stupidity for example, that's a first level spell by the way, does something like 1d4+1 per 2 levels, and we are all starting out with around 11 points of sanity!Thats a good point. I'll change that to [naverage of mental scores] + Will + Level. Mental stat damage does half damage, and the symptoms take 1d10 days to manifest.
Bother. It is quite difficult to wear armour and carry a load no more than 26lb. Any tips? Apart from not have 8 STR? Although that could be a tip.I can carry pretty much anything you want. It's a primary function of the strengthly overload. Party packmule.
edit: Ooh, I could have a mithril chain shirt, and then I could carry stuff. Aha.
Another edit: Are there any languages in particular that I might know and use i.e. what might be useful to take?
Planar languages might be useful, if you can take any.
Improved Two Weapon Fighting and Greater Two Weapon Fighting no longer exist.
Two Weapon Fighting grants you a number of offhand attacks equal to the number of main hand attacks you are entitled to, and does not impose additional to hit penalties for a one handed weapon in the off hand. It also no longer has any prerequisites. Happy birthday.
Two Weapon Defense provides an Insight bonus to AC equal to the number of mainhand attacks you can make derived from BAB.
A third feat exists in the Two Weapon Fighting line called Two Weapon Parry. It requires both of the previous feats and a BAB of 11. With it you can 'hold' a pair of attacks from Two Weapon Fighting, and use those attacks as an Immediate action against an attack made on you. This pair of attacks can either be your primary pair or one of your secondary pairs. If either of your attack rolls are higher than the attack roll of the attack, the attack is parried and does not harm you. If both attack rolls are higher, the attack is parried and if the attack rolls are also sufficient to hit the enemy's AC + 4, you hit them normally with your attacks. If neither are higher, the parry fails and the attack is resolved normally. You must choose to use your stored Parry before learning the result of the attack roll. Parries not used by the start of your next turn are lost.
Go for two weapon fighting, not Improved Initiative.
And remember, Get your sneak attack damage and ability as high as you can.
Sorry - does this mean I could use two rapiers with -2 to hit on both?Nope. Only -2 to offhand. You make a normal attack with your main hand.
Also, thanks a ton for getting Keen Intellect approved! I'm seriously considering getting it over sculpt spell right now, since it will increase my will score TO THE HEAVENS and let me get some points in a few skills for free. Should I take it guys?
lawastoo, your first level hp is always maximum roll of the die. So you'd have 22 hp, then.Well, I didn't do that :P. I thought "Roll for HP" overrode the customary Max First Level rule.
Just making sure you know.
But yes, please do, Immaterial! ^^ Finding our party members a bit more gradually is usually better for both RP and realism than all atonce.
Well, guess I need to reroll my hp.
WOW SO MUCH DIFFERENCE. (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/4347697/)
One of my many racial adjustments reduces it to a d6.Well, guess I need to reroll my hp.
WOW SO MUCH DIFFERENCE. (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/4347697/)
Monks have a d8 hit die.
Size-class upgrade to Large gives a bonus to strength.
Use the power of Free LA.The what?
Fifth and Sixth tier classes get a free point of Level Adjustment for each level, as a compensation for being terrible. You can play a third level fighter as a half-dragon with no problems.Use the power of Free LA.The what?
It does, but D&D is weird like that. Advancing a creature up a size class makes it stronger than starting it at that size class.Size-class upgrade to Large gives a bonus to strength.
So you're telling me that a Half-Ogre has a larger Strength bonus than a normal Ogre?
Since Half-Ogres have +4 from race and +8 from size, whilst normal Ogres just have a flat +10 from race.
Does that not strike you as odd?
Might need to change domains if the GM wants me to pick from some fixed list of dieties.I don't believe in limiting player choice, so take any diety you want.
Also, I'd consider applying a template to be a bit less vanilla. Not sure which I want though. How much, if any, LA woud you be willing to waive for this character Immaterial?Only if you take negative LA from Planetwisted.
((No meetup phase?))Well, we all know the eventual result, so... why not skip into the action?
Because it allows everyone to form better party dynamics, mostly. Although my favorite tactic is to form parties by having someone say "You lot! You're a band of adventurers now, so deal with it!".((No meetup phase?))Well, we all know the eventual result, so... why not skip into the action?
No one answered what planar languages might be useful? I don't know what they are, really, and also don't know why my character would know them instead of general humanoid languages.
Zamora, are ready to go, or should we continue without you?I fail to comprehend the meaning of this query.
I have also just finished: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536)
Hey, my goal for roleplaying reasons was to make a character who was good at punching things and only punching things :P.I have also just finished: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536)
Oh yes, you can also forgo domains for Devotion feats.
And you should get Divine Metamagic(and possibly Divine Might at some point) when you can.
No flaws, I see. :p Perhaps it's for the best that our tier 1 class user isn't optimizing much.
Actually, it's really kinda nice; The Tier 5 class is bordering on munchkinning(bordering, mind you, not doing so...yet. Wouldn't blame you much if you did though.), the Tier 1 class is thematically optimized, and the tier 3 class has pets stronger than the character. Mostly.
I could have made her a true Lockdown build, if I really wanted to, but meh. I'll get Thicket of Blades at some point.
To tell the truth, I was kinda tempted to play a warblade again. They really are quite fun and they aren't too overpowered to boot!Incorrect.
I have also just finished: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536)What about your BAB?
I have also just finished: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=748536)What about your BAB?
You know Weirdsound...Intelligence 10 isn't stupid...
She sounds like a country bumpkin from on high. This may be what you were going for, but it's giving me mental whiplash. :p
WS took a Planetwisted thing called 'Distant Minded', which seems well role played here.
Anyway. How high are the walls where we are? Are there any places where it would be easier to climb up? How many enemies? What do they appear to be wearing? Are there any wasps near us? Would the pups be able to level up? Gaining hit die and such? Also, would I be able to get an attachment for my spear to allow me to make trip attempts with it (and the whole "if you would be tripped by your trip attempt, you can drop the weapon to avoid being tripped blah blah blah")? Otherwise I'll just get Standstill and/or Knockdown. Other question: If Ragefist 'threw' me as part of a move or such while flying, would I be able to make a charge attack with/from it?They are about 30 feet, but they look like they go up to about 75 feet. Yes, head back about fifty feet, and go up the normal slope. I need a spot check for that. And that. That too. Yes, as a cohort. Yes. Yes, after a tumble check.
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Break my freefall right on top of a nearby bandit, full attack him to pieces, and move so as to keep as many crossbows within ten feet as possible. That way, they can't just fire or draw their swords without eating an extra fist of justice.I'm going to let you either:
In that case, I'll take option B, and make the attack a grapple initiation, if I might.Break my freefall right on top of a nearby bandit, full attack him to pieces, and move so as to keep as many crossbows within ten feet as possible. That way, they can't just fire or draw their swords without eating an extra fist of justice.I'm going to let you either:
A. Full attack after breaking your fall, which requires a reflex save.
B. Air-charge him, but with no full attack or reflex save.
C. Reflex save to stop falling, attack him, and move to the next crossbow man.
Can we get an initiative list real quick?
Also, is Gartens within 30 ft of me?
Initiative order:And no, she is about 90 feet, unless you moved towards the bandits last turn, in which case, she is 60 feet away.
Cade: 23
Bandit A: 20
Wasp A: 20
Wasp B: 18
Greeter Bandit: 17
Alaris: 15
Godkissed: 13
Ragefist: 10
Wasp C: 5
Gartens + dogs: 4
Browne: 4
Bandit B and C: 3
Thank you. Hopefully now I can do something useful...No problem. Sorry I was confusing with my badly drawn ASCII map.
This seems odd to me. Countersong just takes the place of a save, so unless she has to save every turn, I shouldn't have to keep playing.Alaris moves closer to Gartens, playing a song to magically drown out the bandit's voice and their charm spell along with it.As long as you continue singing, Gartens is not Charmed, so we can ignore the command/
There is one bandit under the influence of a sleep spell.So basically incapacitated.
Affirmative.There is one bandit under the influence of a sleep spell.So basically incapacitated.
If it's okay with you, Immaterial, I adjusted my skills slightly; 1 rank each from Martial Lore and Ride to Use Rope.
Note to self/party: We should try to take who we can alive, and I figured out a really good way to keep spellcasters contained: Locked Gauntlets plus an iron rod about 10 inches long. Make them wear the locked gauntlets, cross one hand over the other(so they can't use it as a weapon easily) and lock the gauntlets to the rod. Cheaper than manacles, more effective to boot! Druids also happen to be wearing metal armor(more or less), while arcane casters can't use anything with somatic components. Add in a gag for verbal components and you're as set as you can be, short of an antimagic field(there are manacles that have antimagic field, but they're rather expensive). Should do for this level, at least.
What happened to the guy Remuthra was grappling?
Likely he was knocked out by my continued grapple punches.
Also, Bandit C would be less likely to be killed by AoOs(though certainly possible, especially given Combat Reflexes and flanking to prevent him from getting away(although he could withdraw, I suppose)) and more likely to just be charged, tripped, and subsequently torn apart and/or sat upon.He's pretty dead.
I'd rather they took him alive, but they're dogs. I doubt they can manage that without supervision.
Do we get experience for surviving that encounter?Yes. 300 each for the encounter, plus 15 for surprising me by not killing everyone.
If it's okay with you, Immaterial, I adjusted my skills slightly; 1 rank each from Martial Lore and Ride to Use Rope.Hmm. Fine.
I don't have all that stuff, though if Immaterial lets me exchange my manacles for them I will.Hmm. Got to say no. Rope can prevent casting, with a good Use Rope check.
Examine the rest of the crime scene more closely, make sure I haven't missed anything.After a through examination, two things become clear: 1. Even though the dirt in the alley has been scuffed up by many feet, it seems that no attempt was made to move the body. 2. There's no murder weapon, or marking that the CC might have left to suggest the presence of one.
Search: d20 + 2 = 16 (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/4391270/)
If you, as I assume, return to the bar that offered you a place to sleep, you enjoy a good night's sleep.
So who apart from me and Zako is interested in a quick dungeoncrawl then?I'm always interested in some nice D&D combat.
AS for the ass-pull; I am perfectly fine with it, and expected it. That wasn't me calling out an ass-pull. My character is honestly disturbed by it IC. Because she's smart, and that means she can recognize that it means this guy is the criminal version of a Crazy Survivalist (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrazySurvivalist), which are rather scary and difficult to deal with.For a second, I though that was a homebrew class...
As soon as possible, I am engaging Falcon Protocol on that guy.ENGAGE DM MENACING LAUGH!
Oh you just wait.AS for the ass-pull; I am perfectly fine with it, and expected it. That wasn't me calling out an ass-pull. My character is honestly disturbed by it IC. Because she's smart, and that means she can recognize that it means this guy is the criminal version of a Crazy Survivalist (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrazySurvivalist), which are rather scary and difficult to deal with.For a second, I though that was a homebrew class...
Also,Spoiler (click to show/hide)As soon as possible, I am engaging Falcon Protocol on that guy.ENGAGE DM MENACING LAUGH!
Hehehehehehehehehe...
I think we were waiting to see if any other pc was interested in coming, but otherwise I guess yes, we could continue. Zako?Unless anyone wants in, I'm just going to start your dungeon crawl, if thats okay with you two.
"As long as he's answering my questions, he's allowed to speak."No, I'm pointing out that he just responded while I had him gagged :P.
Alaris looks back to Elias.
"Here's what I don't understand... Why would you tip me off to a murder you committed?"
ARGH. Forgot to mention the escape silence roll."As long as he's answering my questions, he's allowed to speak."No, I'm pointing out that he just responded while I had him gagged :P.
Alaris looks back to Elias.
"Here's what I don't understand... Why would you tip me off to a murder you committed?"
I want to keep him still and silent so he can't cast spells, because that's pretty much his only way to evade justice at this point.
He can beat my Grapple?ARGH. Forgot to mention the escape silence roll."As long as he's answering my questions, he's allowed to speak."No, I'm pointing out that he just responded while I had him gagged :P.
Alaris looks back to Elias.
"Here's what I don't understand... Why would you tip me off to a murder you committed?"
I want to keep him still and silent so he can't cast spells, because that's pretty much his only way to evade justice at this point.
No one ever expect Piazo material in a DnD game. Or transparent text.
Alaris is convinced that that was actually a terrible idea.Is this a mind control thing, or do I just somehow know that he just tried to mind control Gregory?
You've been mind controlled.Alaris is convinced that that was actually a terrible idea.Is this a mind control thing, or do I just somehow know that he just tried to mind control Gregory?
I will roleplay being mind controlled, then.You've been mind controlled.Alaris is convinced that that was actually a terrible idea.Is this a mind control thing, or do I just somehow know that he just tried to mind control Gregory?
For reference, it Psionic Charm, which is just Charm Person, but Psionic.I will roleplay being mind controlled, then.You've been mind controlled.Alaris is convinced that that was actually a terrible idea.Is this a mind control thing, or do I just somehow know that he just tried to mind control Gregory?
...Says the 700 pound, 16 foot tall Planetwisted MonkBards are scary!
So they should post an action.
Gregory dashes toward Elias with crushing force, laying into him with a mighty goring bash.
Out of curiosity, what was the Reflex save on that explosion?I only did Reflex when you punched the bomb. This explosion is a Touch AC.
So what's going on? Is this dungeon crawl happening?I'm waiting on the dungeon crawlers to get their RP on.
I think I understand why you never, ever split the party.Why do you think I made you wait until everyone was finished fighting to continue on your journey :P?
It's because the party earlier in the timeline can mess up the course of events.
I comprehend your wisdom now.I think I understand why you never, ever split the party.Why do you think I made you wait until everyone was finished fighting to continue on your journey :P?
It's because the party earlier in the timeline can mess up the course of events.
Fudging in something specifically to save a villain is considered cheap.Drinking a potion activated the effect.
For that matter, what's the range on that attack? He'd have to vomit pretty hard to catch someone at least ten feet away.
And furthermore, how did he drink a potion, move out of range of my swings, and attack with the effect all in the same turn?
Oh! And the thing I almost forgot to ask about: How much do you go by the book, Immaterial? Is Rule of Cool and Logical Fighting allowed?I like to make the Rule of Cool and Logical Fighting work by the book. For instance:
Like, if I charged someone with my tower shield into a wall, will it be just as difficult to hit them as with my spear(I have a much broader area to hit with, and don't need to care about armor, etc.), and will it do just as much damage as simply slapping them with the shield, or a little more from hitting them into the wall(I wouldn't expect it to do much damage anyway, since that would mostly be to effectively pin or push them as a slightly different bullrush)?Well, that would basically be grappling/pinning an opponent, with a bonus equivalent to the shield's AC bonus.
Since I'm behind my tower shield, would it really provoke an AoO if it was a a bull rush?I'd say you get an AC bonus while bullrushing.
Do choke holds done on the carotid artery apply the suffocation rules or end a bit more quickly?It would require a Heal check before you could do something like that.
Alaris lights an everburning torch and throws it in ahead of her.I appear to have been ignored...
Alaris lights an everburning torch and throws it in ahead of her.I appear to have been ignored...
No, I was just dumb.Oh, sorry, I didn't realize we were there already.(Sorry I forgot you.)
Alaris lights an everburning torch and throws it in ahead of her.
The dim light of the torch dances on two humanoid figures, with open chest cavities and skulls.
EDIT: And don't forget punishing stance! You might not be, I don't know, but Kemik's damage rolls have been on the low side if you've been using the extra damage die(per attack, that is) with Punishing Stance.I think I have, but I have to know, how did your dog learn a Warblade stance?
Yay, battle music!You can do it, Sensei! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnORxdWTGiA)
I think I have, but I have to know, how did your dog learn a Warblade stance?I had him take Martial Study: Steel Wind, and then Martial Stance: Punishing Stance.
Would that count as a chariot since I have a spear?Sure, why not.
Sweet. Now to try to create the situation where you regret that decision/everything becomes more awesome because of it.Would that count as a chariot since I have a spear?Sure, why not.
I will, once you post your action, which will lead to you leaving this dungeon at some point, when that situation can be explored.Sweet. Now to try to create the situation where you regret that decision/everything becomes more awesome because of it.Would that count as a chariot since I have a spear?Sure, why not.
Also, oh snap! Totally forgot about sanity points! You sneaky bastard! :oHehehehehe...
Question to DM - is the puppeteer ALL four Ps on the map?Yes, it's a large creature, so it takes up 4 squares.
Just letting everyone know I may be even more sporadic in appearances than I already am. I won't have stable internet for a while after tomorrow, but I'm still going to try my best to show up and play.I'm sorry to hear that. I'll take the reins when needed. Best of luck!
How come I only did 3 damage? DR, immunity to SA? The roll for 7 hp I gave was just for the one attack with my d6-1 plus 2 SA dice.DM was a stupid dum-dum. Mistake will be fixed momentarily.
Oh, also, do the short swords, two in total, the dagger, and the three circlets have any features that might make me want to examine them in detail?Well, since they are all set with turquoise stones and are all still just fine after having sat in a cave for hundreds of years... common sense tells you that they are probably magical.
Alright. So now, of course, I have to decide what to do with my character. The main Idea that comes to mind is a sort of "Mad Scientisty" Wizard, who like to experiment with new things and stick his nose into dangerous places. This'd mainly mean taking some item creation feats and inventing lot's of new spells. Does that fit with your campaign, as it is now? If not, I can think of something else. Also, what level should I make my character at?That sounds fine in concept. I'll start expanding the artisans' district, cause you might be spending some time in there.Level 1, I would assume?derp, nope 3rd level. Alright, lemme read the intro before i start assuming things.
I would suggest we all meld back into a group at some point soon-ish.Mmmmmmm.... That would make my life so much easier...
Also, does that also go for enchanting weapons that we already have? A Merciful Flail would be very nice. So would a Seeking Crossbow with screaming bolts.
Would I be able to get some better gear for the hounds, artificial claws or barding or the like?
Do we receive 4000 xp to level then, or whatever we needed?So, you have 6000 xp for getting to level 4, another 1000 for roleplay, and however much I gave you for backstory.
I meant to ask for info, not backup...Fixed.
As in, "has anybody heard about someone dealing in scrolls?"
What source are you using for the rules on creating spells? the 3.5 DMG has guidlines for GM's that wish to make new spells, but nothing for players that want to do so. Are you using the rules from the 3.0 DMG? Cause those are super expensive, for how little increase in power you get.I'm using the rules from the DMG, on page 198. 1000 gp per spell level, one week per spell level. It's an original spell. Tampering with the fabric of the universe is expensive.
In terms of feats, that would mean feats that either give me a discount on the gold cost to create an item, or feats that allow me to break a magic item in order to salvage it's value. Say, three feats, that let me get back 50%/75%/90% of an items value and which require Caster level 3/9/15 to get. Or a series of feats that give me a 10% discount to making magic items, available every four levels? This'd mean that at lvl 20 I'd have 50% off, which is what a character with all of the Item Creation feats would normally get. Or perhaps the same kind of thing for inventing new spells?Take
These bracers let their wearer spew flames, *cou-wearenotresponsibleforpyromanicaurgesandtheirresultingdamages-gh*, and the gloves exert force from their palms at the wearer's command
I can happily rp this when I have more time but what is the chance of a masterwork dagger, masterwork shortbow, sleep arrows, and changing either of the gloves/bracers for a simple +1 armour or dex bracer or item?Don't want my fancy homemade cursed items? Damn.
edit: also, poop, I rolled 2 for HP. Whoops.
Don't want my fancy homemade cursed items? Damn.
You could ask, and we'll see what you get. Or you could just go for a cursed intelligent item...I'm not insane enough for that to be in character yet. Speaking of, what happened to my insanity effect?
Alright, so I have a first draft of my sheet finished. Is everything acceptable? I still need to write a backstory, and buy some more items or research some more spells.Don't forget your save bonuses.
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=880525 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=880525)
Hmm...I'll write you forward, if you want.
I'll have to experiment when I finish being sent to jail for the crime of being the law.
Would I be able to try and requisition wondrous/alchemical items that don't exist but should/would make sense to?Of course.
AND OH GOD IMMATERIAL WHAT DID YOU SEE I MUST KNOW ARRRRGHGHHGI saw the thievery equipment and fell in love. Have you ever heard it said that DMs run the games they want to play? It's a bit like that.
So is an erudite with the Spell to power alternate class feature alright?Oh, ya, that's fine.
Does telepathy mean I can read his mind? That's what I'm assuming, here.No, it does not. (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Telepathy)
Well now I'm trying to figure out what day it was that the mine adventure took place.Let me calculate the date, and her officer number is arbitrarily 0712 and Gregory's is 0713. Hix'ix'ix was, as far as you can tell, an employee of the AMC with seniority, and a managerial position. He's probably a foreman.
And also the actual specific location, what Celles' officer number is(if you told me, I don't remember, though I can trawl the thread for it), and how to refer to Hix'ix'ix. And then, of course, I need to make sure I know what Gartens perceived.
Er so does Zako still exist? Not sure I should do the wizardy side quest without the wizard.I'll go PM him.
Wasn't there a thiefy quest? But then the other players are basically cops, so maybe that wouldn't be a good idea. Hopefully I'll have time to rp a bit more and better shortly.
How's this as a backstory?We'll call that enough for 4 1st level powers.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fakeedit: I hadn't realized it was so big. Ok then. :o
How difficult would it be for me to force feed him the potion he was trying to give the woman?He's dropped it on the ground, so now you'd need to grapple him, pin him, and then you could force feed him the potion.
A quick question: I have a limit on the number of unique powers I can use per day, which is pretty restrictive. Right now it's 3 different powers a day. (Unless you interpret it to be per power level, in which case it's six. The rules state in text that it's per level, but the table reads as a total.) Can I circumvent that by using the linked power MetaPsionic feat to have two powers take up on slot? As in, I use link power to manifest powers A and B. this fills one of my slots with A+B. So now I can manifest whatever I have in my other slots, or I can manifest A+B. I can't manifest A or B individually unless they're in a different slot, but I can manifest the two as a pair as per Linked Power. Does this sound alright? This shouldn't prevent me from linking a pair that I have in my other slots.That sounds okay.
Also, how much does my status as an elan help me? I assume they provide a few basic covers, at least enough to help me hide my status as an Elan.
I'll be able to do my sheet after today/tomorrow. Still ok for me to play?Of course!
Sorry, just been real distracted lately. Shameful of me...It's no big deal.
Anyway, some questions:
Do I roll for HP on level up or do I just take the average for the roll?
I got the items that Edgrick supposedly gave me (the scrolls and potion of mage armor), right?
How long will it take to write a spell from a scroll into my book?
That's news to me. Thanks. In that case, it's just +1.
it's just a +1 bow.That's news to me. Thanks. In that case, it's just +1.
Oh wait whoops and sorry for the double post - so is it a Flaming shortbow or just a +1 shortbow?
FTFYSkill Monkey Supremebard
Also, GM question: Can I cast spells from scrolls from the schools I can't learn from?Yes.
But, I do have a fancy pike.Considering the pike I was talking about was the special one you suggested with a 15-foot reach, I took this to mean yes.
A very fancy pike, as it so happens.
...That's what I was thinking, unless by "the right thing" is by the standards of your code.
I don't know if you are interpreting Lawful Neutral correctly...Lawful characters usually have some sort of code of honor they simply will not break, or try to work within the law. If you break it as long as it's the right thing to do, that's less Lawful Neutral and more Neutral Good...
Just saying...I'm sure Immaterial might let you keep your monk advancement if your alignment changed.The only time I would cut off your monk advancement would be if you were to do a 180 and become chaotic.
...You're misinterpreting what I'm saying here. Lawful Neutral types follow a personal code, and will break the law occasionally if it and legitimate authority disagree over what the law should be.
I don't know if you are interpreting Lawful Neutral correctly...Lawful characters usually have some sort of code of honor they simply will not break, or try to work within the law. If you break it as long as it's the right thing to do, that's less Lawful Neutral and more Neutral Good...
Just saying...I'm sure Immaterial might let you keep your monk advancement if your alignment changed.
True. (For some lawful neutrals, at least.) I didn't get the impression that Guy had a personal code from what you had said OOC, was all. My apologies for the misunderstanding....You're misinterpreting what I'm saying here. Lawful Neutral types follow a personal code, and will break the law occasionally if it and legitimate authority disagree over what the law should be.
I don't know if you are interpreting Lawful Neutral correctly...Lawful characters usually have some sort of code of honor they simply will not break, or try to work within the law. If you break it as long as it's the right thing to do, that's less Lawful Neutral and more Neutral Good...
Just saying...I'm sure Immaterial might let you keep your monk advancement if your alignment changed.
It's fine, my consistency is somewhat bad when I have to remember how my character worked weeks ago.True. (For some lawful neutrals, at least.) I didn't get the impression that Guy had a personal code from what you had said OOC, was all. My apologies for the misunderstanding....You're misinterpreting what I'm saying here. Lawful Neutral types follow a personal code, and will break the law occasionally if it and legitimate authority disagree over what the law should be.
I don't know if you are interpreting Lawful Neutral correctly...Lawful characters usually have some sort of code of honor they simply will not break, or try to work within the law. If you break it as long as it's the right thing to do, that's less Lawful Neutral and more Neutral Good...
Just saying...I'm sure Immaterial might let you keep your monk advancement if your alignment changed.
I went ahead and moved skill points from Knowledge (The planes) to Concentration, because holy crap that's an embarrassing oversight to make.You're not going to be the AD(&)D mage?
Alos, interestingly enough, did you know you can expend a psionic focus to take 15 on a concentration check? it's the only thing you can do with it, in fact, unless you have a feat, power or class feature that uses psionic focuses.
What all do I know about the town? Especially it's politics. Who's who and whats what? that seems like something I'll need to know.Check the OP for most of the details relating to local politics that any one might know.
You could also steal it, then call the coalition to get rid of the clients.
Well, actually, we were just going to contact some portion of the party, because Mr. Biden didn't give us NPC fighter contacts.The ones who had secondary contact with Puppeteers are a pool of low level fighters, clerics, adepts and warriors. But I didn't write that down because reforming the party.
Are we included in the 'five specialists' or do we get to hire all of these people?You get to hire five people.
We need to grab that criminal scum and use him as a Penal Officer. He sounds awe-inspiring.You mean Elias?
Wait, that's the guy we had to get rid of earlier?We need to grab that criminal scum and use him as a Penal Officer. He sounds awe-inspiring.You mean Elias?
Are we just waiting for alleecat to decide if Alaris wants to come on the our detecting mission? Sorry - just keen to get to the exchange bit to see what happens now...Yes. If she hasn't posted in 7 hours, she'll not be joining you.
Whats your plan of attack?
Also, here are the basics of my anti-railroading plan: I will present organic choices when I can. Your choices will dramatically effect the following events in the story of Kalgena.Ooh, interesting.
For example: when the dungeon crawling group was facing down the exploding Flesh Harrower, they chose to stay and risk their lives to kill it. They could have ran.
If they had run, the AMC and the Puppeteers would be engaged in a power struggle as they would not have been weakened by the loss of their leader. However, they are, so a different result has occured. I can't tell you what it is, because obviously spoilers.
I've used a sleep spell on a dwarf before, it works. However, I'd rather pass this off as regulations, and see how that plays out in the morning.
I was waiting for our thief expert to search for traps and unlock the case and whatnot.
"That reminds me, you made sure to check yourself for those when we left the cave, right?"No, I'm not cackling with glee and rubbing my hands together. Why do you ask?
Technically, that wasn't the lie. I haven't actually encountered them again since the cave with Guy. The lie was that I got checked out by Coalition doctors, (which I didn't) and I don't have any on me (which I do.)"You mean those purple worm things? I haven't encountered any since Guy and I were on a job."
Valentis pulls off a very average bluff. (10)How did I get a 10? Last I checked, it's impossible to roll a 0 on a d20. Unless I got a negative modifier or something...
You rolled a ten.Valentis pulls off a very average bluff. (10)How did I get a 10? Last I checked, it's impossible to roll a 0 on a d20. Unless I got a negative modifier or something...
Also dun' forget the modifers ppl get to Sense Motive based on da bluff. :PI didn't. Those modifiers came to +0, since you wanted to believe it, -5, and it could hurt you, +5.
Aren't there specific rules about ties for Bluff/Sense Motive, though?...Not from what I can see. I'm going with the Specific beats General rule, so higher skill mod wins here.
so everyone's waiting on someone else?Yep.
Is that incorrect, then?That is, sadly, misinformed.
Obscure book? As in, 3.0 or one of the Completes/Races 'obscure', or as in Dragon Magazine obscure, or somewhere in between?
Since neither of the other two seem to be responding, can we just handwave that I got healed...We can. I'll figure out what to do with you when I get home.
Also the hounds also have the scent ability so they can probably smell whatshisface too. Greghir in particular can probably sniff him out pretty damn easily, with her tracking bonuses.I believe they do.
Should we try to wait for Bardy to act, or just post actions now and revise as needed?It's up to you.
Also it's no fun if you just Fist your way through everything.It's sort of my specialty, sorry :P. There are many drawbacks, most notably magic.
Sorry about the delay, guys.I don't think we're ready to advance in the combat at least anyway :P.
Well, the other party can keep moving.Sorry about the delay, guys.I don't think we're ready to advance in the combat at least anyway :P.
Hey guys, I'm making a new character (since wizards are far too much work and managing for my tastes for so few spells) and I'd like your opinion on if I should take a ranged warlock or a sorcerer? I'm sticking to range since we don't really have all that many ranged people in our group, and I'm kinda leaning towards being a warlock (unlimited spell like abilities, evil fits in with the setting, sounds viable for the group?)I'd say go for a warlock.
Cool with me. Roam free.
Guy smiles as he lunges for the maceman, one oversized fist wrapping around his torso and pulling him into an embrace.If you're going to grapple the man covered in Alchemist's fire, then you will also get burnt.
Full grapple. Three melee touch attacks at +16 to hit, then opposed grapple check at +27.
Actually, it's Mace who has the Stare thing. They swapped places with magic.No, Immaterial, it's not a attack or anything. It's a stance. Any enemy I'm threatening has -4 to attack anyone other than me.
Let me get back to you on the attachments. I'm about to go out with some friends.
I'm guessing they're like eighth level.In which case we're fucked, in all honesty. Sure, five fairly optimized 4th level characters might be able to handle a CR 10 encounter, but our enemies are also optimized, from what I can tell, which effectively boosts the CR, we don't even really know what they're doing/getting their powers from(THE MAJORITY OF US, THAT IS), me and my dogs are the only ones who really have the capacity for effective teamwork and communication since our characters haven't been working together long enough, and we didn't get any opportunity to prepare and fight on our terms; we've been reacting, instead of acting.
You can indeed sneak attack a grappler. They also take a -4 to their AC.
Immaterial, as a note, since Kemik was in Punishing Stance, all of his attacks deal an additional 1d6 points of damage. I don't know if you has already included this, but as it wasn't a separate bonus, and it's not too hard to forget about by accident, I get the impression you didn't.Ah, sorry. I'll fix those things for you.
As a third 'Also', Greghir's bite still does damage, it just also allows a free trip attempt. :P
Also, their trip attempts don't provoke AoOs, as far as I'm aware. It's the same type of things wolves have, and whatnot.We talked about Improved Trip when the game was getting started, and I said no, but now I'm saying bonus feat, because, otherwise, I wont remember.
Also, Bardic Music doesn't get interrupted by taking damage, as far as I'm aware. It doesn't provoke AoOs to sing, after all, so I wouldn't think Concentration would apply. If you're houseruling it, though, that's fine.I'm saying that since it requires concentration, you can get distracted by damage. Otherwise, that doesn't make much sense, in my opinion.
And, uh, how come he didn't get hit by Celles rolling a 22 but did get hit by Kemik rolling a 22? Unless...dodge, of course. Well, now we know what his AC is.The reason that happened was because Greghir tripped him first, lowing his AC by 4. Being prone gives a -4 penalty to AC against melee attacks.
We talked about Improved Trip when the game was getting started, and I said no, but now I'm saying bonus feat, because, otherwise, I wont remember.Alright. I'll add it. It's not actually improved trip; they don't get a bonus on it, as far as I'm aware. Just, whenever they hit with a bite attack, they get a free trip attempt. I could put it under Special Qualities or Special Attacks? Or make an asterisk thingy?
I'm saying that since it requires concentration, you can get distracted by damage. Otherwise, that doesn't make much sense, in my opinion.Fair enough, I guess. Though I would wonder if it should be Perform check or Concentration check...maybe a Perform check that you add your Constitution bonus to, instead of your Charisma bonus? Plenty of stuff in the DMG about that sort of check making.
The reason that happened was because Greghir tripped him first, lowing his AC by 4. Being prone gives a -4 penalty to AC against melee attacks.Ah, that makes more sense. Alright.
Alright. I'll add it. It's not actually improved trip; they don't get a bonus on it, as far as I'm aware. Just, whenever they hit with a bite attack, they get a free trip attempt. I could put it under Special Qualities or Special Attacks? Or make an asterisk thingy?Your choice.
Fair enough, I guess. Though I would wonder if it should be Perform check or Concentration check...maybe a Perform check that you add your Constitution bonus to, instead of your Charisma bonus? Plenty of stuff in the DMG about that sort of check making.There's actually a feat (http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-mage--58/melodic-casting--1918/) for something like that.
Sidenote that I remembered; I actually still technically threaten Rapier guy, thanks to ten-foot reach(in fact, I'm flanking him with Alaris. :D). I don't know if you took Iron Guard's Glare into account,I did, and it really didn't matter.
Can't wait to figure out a way to get Pounce for Kemik. I'm kinda wanting to retrain his Steel Wind feat, as it's not really coming in handy all that much. All I would trade it for is Steely Strike, though, which isn't that much better. Worse, in terms of tanking ability, in all honesty.You can retrain it at next level up, if you want.
By the way, Immaterial, thank you for running this campaign. It really is fun, despite all of our machinations and reminders and whatnot. I stress about quite a few of the games I'm in at some point or another, but this? This is not one of them.Thanks! I'm really glad you're enjoying it! It's been fun to run.
Well, if it's going to be cursed anyway, there's not much I can do about it. Meh, either way.It's not my fault Kyle took a flaw that made his only create cursed items.
I should have moved into Mace's space when I grappled him.Ah. Fixed from now on.
Did Cade use a spell there in my grapple? If he did, he needed a Concentration check, and he also needed to win an opposed grapple check if he used a spell with somatic components.Nope. He used the Immediate Magic ACF, which I'm ruling does not need a Concentration check, and does not have Somatic Components.
Ah, I see.
Bullshit magic, then.
Whelp, I'll be shredding him into tiny bits anyway.
Right as soon as I'm not dealing with cousins getting married and family from the other coast and tiny humans and whatnot.
Cant tell if joking. Going to assume you are. But I can be.I can tell you take pleasure in messing with the players. It's what I would do.
That said, you just wanted to see a Mindflayer in action, didn't you?
I'm just taking tips from Heroes of Horror on how to build suspense and tone.Cant tell if joking. Going to assume you are. But I can be.I can tell you take pleasure in messing with the players. It's what I would do.
That said, you just wanted to see a Mindflayer in action, didn't you?
I just like mind flayers :P.
Attack Your Opponent
You can make an attack with an unarmed strike, natural weapon, or light weapon against another character you are grappling. You take a 4 penalty on such attacks.
You cant attack with two weapons while grappling, even if both are light weapons.
It is Edgrick's turn.
I'd be willing to do it just for the criminal-fighting.
I thought Kemik was almost free as it was?
This web is fucking annoying.
"Wait, so they don't even know you're possessing them?""Well there was this one time... We don't really like to talk about it..."
new psionic powers
Speaking of, should I get any sort of mental feedback from that crystal being activated? I am connected to the puppeteers in some way, right?I hadn't thought of that! Thanks!
Go home and sleep, after having secured the item somewhere hidden in the room.
(I was actually thinking of redmountain the dwarf, but this misunderstanding will work out in my favor.)I know. However, I made a mistake, so they made a mistake. I used this chance to correct it.
I just wanted to thank everyone for staying around for 75% of a year, now. I really appreciate it. It's been fun.So it's not going to remain fun from this point on?
The game's not stopping, I'm just thanking you guys.
Hype.Don't get too hyped!
This is going to be a pretty crazy school week for me. Will not likely become active again until Sunday at the earliest.Good luck!
Goodness! I think I need to do a level up. Apologies if I can't for a couple of days... Holidays and all. Not 100% sure what my plans for Edgrick might have been levelupwise.Take your time!
Does that revert any prior damage, or is there a conversion?Revert in your case. Conversion in Alleecat's, but that's because she just got Taint.
We are level 5 now, yes?Yes to the first, and no to the second. I trust you.
and was the GM rolling the HP?
Except for Remuthra.Life's complete :D
I don't even know what taint does...It measures your exposure to evil, or in this case, psionics. At this stage in the game, taint leads to mild depravity, but later, you risk falling deeper into madness.
Well, if possible I say we should flush them out instead, maybe by burning the house, but I'm not sure we're allowed.It's on a busy city street, and wall to wall with other buildings.
Whoops, sorry, I was busy with a job and such. Is it too late for me to post?Of course not!
Sorry I had a short forum break and then didn't find this in the top however many pages. I think?Totally fine.
Um, so a giant just dived through the roof of the building we were staking out?That's Remuthra's action.
Are we meant to be murdering them all?That's a bad idea. It'll lead to an earlier court martial date.
Well, at the moment, my dogs can't help you, since yer in the way(though I'm regretting not having grabbed Minotaur's Charge, now), but...I dunno. Pretty sure glowy purple ones means they have protections on.
I'm really sorry, but I can't push out a turn until Wednesday/Thursday, due to a 1000 word essay I haven't begun due on Wednesday. :/