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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #154110 on: December 29, 2020, 08:41:42 am »

What were you going for, anyway? What was the basic idea of the reaction; its reactants and products? I'm guessing something involving CO2 and H2O as the products.

I dunno, amorphous carbon (which I believe is the allotrope that coal is) just doesn't strike me as particularly reactive, so if there is theoretically a reaction between C and H2O2, the activation energy you'd need to trigger that reaction would be... high. The surface area from it being powdered would improve its rate of reaction, but it won't help you if the reaction doesn't happen in the first place. I guess the reaction's exothermic? H2O2 doesn't really like being H2O2, and will react to not be that, given suitable things to react with, if my understanding is right. I suppose the explosion part's feasible.

Then again, my chemistry knowledge is high-school-level, and I'm not taking anything related to Chemistry right now. I'm sure you have a good explanation.
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« Reply #154111 on: December 29, 2020, 09:13:20 am »

I just realized that tomorrow's my birthday, and I have absolutely nothing planned for the occasion. I don't know what to say. My parents have given me a decent budget, and I think at least one of my friends is willing to help me out here, but it's been stuffed so far back in the back of my mind that I only noticed because I read the current date and time on my laptop. I have so many other things I could and should be doing that I completely forgot about it. Eh, I guess I'll post in the Happy thread with the classic cake GIF, since that takes very little effort on my part.

Good lord, this uncaring and forgetful attitude towards celebrations is probably gonna bite me in the ass some day. My parents are surprised if I remember any of my family member's birthdays, that's how bad it is.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #154112 on: December 29, 2020, 09:43:25 am »

Happy Almost Birthday, Friend!

Would you like a candle I have from christmas?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #154113 on: December 29, 2020, 09:47:53 am »

Would you like a candle I have from christmas?
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #154114 on: December 29, 2020, 10:04:43 am »

What were you going for, anyway? What was the basic idea of the reaction; its reactants and products? I'm guessing something involving CO2 and H2O as the products.

I dunno, amorphous carbon (which I believe is the allotrope that coal is) just doesn't strike me as particularly reactive, so if there is theoretically a reaction between C and H2O2, the activation energy you'd need to trigger that reaction would be... high. The surface area from it being powdered would improve its rate of reaction, but it won't help you if the reaction doesn't happen in the first place. I guess the reaction's exothermic? H2O2 doesn't really like being H2O2, and will react to not be that, given suitable things to react with, if my understanding is right. I suppose the explosion part's feasible.

Then again, my chemistry knowledge is high-school-level, and I'm not taking anything related to Chemistry right now. I'm sure you have a good explanation.

H2O2 easily decays:
H2O2 -> H2O + O*
2 O* -> O2

The idea was, that the radical oxygen would react with the coal rather than itself, in C + O* -> CO (and then hopefuly CO + O*->CO2), producing heat. This heat would trigger more peroxide to decay, releasing more radical oxygen, relasing more heat and gas, etc.. But the bottle did not even heat up.

I know 30% hydrogen peroxide and hypermanganese react explosively, with the gas being steam.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #154115 on: December 29, 2020, 10:34:50 am »

...what is hypermanganese?
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« Reply #154116 on: December 29, 2020, 11:03:32 am »

People from Hypermangan of course
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« Reply #154117 on: December 29, 2020, 11:05:29 am »

Putting it in Google showed a genetic disorder, and manganese toxicity
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #154118 on: December 29, 2020, 11:31:01 am »

What were you going for, anyway? What was the basic idea of the reaction; its reactants and products? I'm guessing something involving CO2 and H2O as the products.

I dunno, amorphous carbon (which I believe is the allotrope that coal is) just doesn't strike me as particularly reactive, so if there is theoretically a reaction between C and H2O2, the activation energy you'd need to trigger that reaction would be... high. The surface area from it being powdered would improve its rate of reaction, but it won't help you if the reaction doesn't happen in the first place. I guess the reaction's exothermic? H2O2 doesn't really like being H2O2, and will react to not be that, given suitable things to react with, if my understanding is right. I suppose the explosion part's feasible.

Then again, my chemistry knowledge is high-school-level, and I'm not taking anything related to Chemistry right now. I'm sure you have a good explanation.

H2O2 easily decays:
H2O2 -> H2O + O*
2 O* -> O2

The idea was, that the radical oxygen would react with the coal rather than itself, in C + O* -> CO (and then hopefuly CO + O*->CO2), producing heat. This heat would trigger more peroxide to decay, releasing more radical oxygen, relasing more heat and gas, etc.. But the bottle did not even heat up.

I know 30% hydrogen peroxide and hypermanganese react explosively, with the gas being steam.

Someone’s trying to recreate the v2 program :P

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« Reply #154119 on: December 29, 2020, 11:53:57 am »

Um... I don't think (3%) peroxide should sting unless there's an open wound. It's in fact one of the things you can put on a wound and it can spill over to surrounding skin. It shouldn't make skin go white or stiff. Are you sure that was 3% concentration?

Also what you were trying to do there was essentially ignite the carbon with the oxygen from the H2O2. So you probably need more starting energy for that.

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« Reply #154120 on: December 29, 2020, 05:57:28 pm »

Saw something I've never seen before, today.

Was putting a book into the system, and, well. I noticed it was signed by the author!

Sorta'.

See, what they had done was signed one of those stick on plaque things -- basically a fancy oversized mailing label -- and then stuck that to the book. They didn't actually sign the book itself. They signed a peel off label and stuck the label to the title page.

In the couple years I've been working at the library, handling several dozen signed books and probably a few thousand books overall, and decades I've been voraciously reading, I've never seen this before. Not once.

It's a novel experience, and a heck of a wtf because, just. There's so much wrong with it :V
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #154121 on: December 29, 2020, 06:02:24 pm »

I'd give good odds that that's not a genuine signature. Only reason I can think of to do that would be so you could print off a sheet of the things.
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« Reply #154122 on: December 29, 2020, 06:04:34 pm »

I mean, it might have been signed by someone else, but the signature didn't look printed on at all. I did eyeball it for a bit in confusion, wondering if it was actually what it looked like :P

Though yeah, coworker and me figured rather than printing it off, the author was just filling out sheets of signatures and putting those on books.

... hell, now that I think of it, I could see it be a plague distancing thing, maybe? That's the most charitable interpretation I can think of.
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« Reply #154123 on: December 29, 2020, 06:05:07 pm »

It's a novel experience,

I'm sure it was.


My WTF was I just did a short online course for "Dealing with Unconscious Bias" for work. Videos with a test at the end. I didn't pay as much attention to the videos as I probably should because I was distracted by the guy in the video. His hands were a completely different color than his face.
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« Reply #154124 on: December 29, 2020, 06:06:03 pm »

Like . . . he had vitiligo?
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