Post by: sizeak on June 11, 2010, 01:26:44 pm
- Runesmith is a Dwarf information viewing and editing tool inspired by the original Dwarf Companion. It uses the DFHack library to interface with Dwarf Fortress and Qt to provide a robust and professional looking cross-platform GUI. It allows you to easily view and edit various aspects of a Dwarf or Creature with the ability to export a choice of stats to either a CSV or XML for easy import into programs such as Microsoft Excel. Don't forget, if you like it, Rate it :D
- Happiness
- Skills
- Attributes
- Labours (Multiple may be selected to be removed)
- Traits
- Mood (including mood skill and materials) Warning: Turning moods on isn't advised right now!
- Position
- Civilisation
- A large collection of various creature flags, an example being Has mood and Had mood
- The ability to kill every creature of a certain race (Genocide)
- Export to CSV or XML
- The ability to set the main race that you are currently playing with for mods or adventure mode. This allows functions that would normally be restricted to Dwarves to be used in games where the playable race is not Dwarven
- The ability to set all the attributes of all the creatures that are of the main race to a user specified value
- The ability to set all the skills of all the creatures that are of the main race to a user specified value
Editable items currently include:
- Windows: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2538 (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2538)
- Linux: to follow (one day)
"A tool that allows smithing (editing) of the digits and letters (runes) that control all life in DF. By smithing these runes, the metagods (players) can meddle with DF mortals to suit their games, be it recasting a soul into a new species body, blessing and cursing individuals or just to make predictions of when a mortal will attain the next degree of competence to guide them on how they should spend their limited time." - Psieye - (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=57003.msg1324765#msg1324765 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=57003.msg1324765#msg1324765))
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh228/sizeak/Runesmith/Runesmith.png)[/list]
Post by: jaked122 on June 11, 2010, 02:34:28 pm
however is that a .net interface? if it is, I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to use it for a while(no windows computer at this moment).
Post by: JanusTwoface on June 11, 2010, 02:46:31 pm
Actually .NET is actually pretty cross platform if you're careful using Mono.
Post by: wilsonns on June 11, 2010, 03:47:40 pm
PS: It's a good software...It will help me manage that little beardy men...
Post by: Deon on June 11, 2010, 04:02:28 pm
I really loved DC, because it allowed me to set up any community I wanted (editing gender/stats/name of any dwarf). It made the game much more enjoyable.
If you will somehow find how to change appearance values, it would be awesome.
Post by: sizeak on June 11, 2010, 05:12:09 pm
kikrost is a really happy farmer...
PS: It's a good software...It will help me manage that little beardy men...
Ahahaha I only just realised what you were talking about! Indeed he is, do you think I should colour code the values or something?
Post by: Shaostoul on June 11, 2010, 05:19:20 pm
Can't wait for it to be able to edit stats.
I'm going to link this in my guide.
Post by: sizeak on June 11, 2010, 05:44:09 pm
Post by: Nether on June 11, 2010, 05:46:19 pm
Post by: Shaostoul on June 11, 2010, 05:54:03 pm
Dwarf Companion now known as runesmith is for editing dwarfs entirely. Changing stats, moods, if it's alive or dead. etc.
Post by: Deon on June 11, 2010, 06:02:04 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 11, 2010, 06:28:13 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on June 11, 2010, 06:30:16 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 11, 2010, 06:39:38 pm
Post by: K4el on June 11, 2010, 07:01:41 pm
(http://si.lorcode.com/images/Runesmith.png)
I really like the big list lay out. DT's grid view is very overwhelming in larger forts.
Post by: sizeak on June 11, 2010, 07:12:31 pm
Post by: peterix on June 11, 2010, 07:16:26 pm
I guess I should implement editing the pregnancy timer if possible :DDoesn't work as expected I'm afraid. It requires some other things to exist (I assume the simulated genetics play a role). Best thing you can do is accelerate a pregnancy and this only works late in the process, otherwise you'll get abortions. Just setting the timer on a bunch of cats no longer works.
So, no catsplosion tool like the one for 40d is possible (yet). I won't be getting my 4000 cat fortress for testing. Neutering on the other hand ... should be quite possible by setting the timers to zero whenever the game starts them.
Post by: Urist McFumbler on June 11, 2010, 07:18:02 pm
Unfortunately the amount of programming I know can be counted on one finger so the only help I can offer is to test it.
:)
Post by: sizeak on June 11, 2010, 07:19:47 pm
I guess I should implement editing the pregnancy timer if possible :DDoesn't work as expected I'm afraid. It requires some other things to exist (I assume the simulated genetics play a role). Best thing you can do is accelerate a pregnancy and this only works late in the process, otherwise you'll get abortions. Just setting the timer on a bunch of cats no longer works.
So, no catsplosion tool like the one for 40d is possible (yet). I won't be getting my 4000 cat fortress for testing. Neutering on the other hand ... should be quite possible by setting the timers to zero whenever the game starts them.
Ahh ok, thanks for the info. Let me know if you work something out
Post by: Brandon816 on June 12, 2010, 12:24:36 am
Post by: bartavelle on June 12, 2010, 12:31:49 am
Post by: Haelfix on June 12, 2010, 01:55:07 am
Post by: Nether on June 12, 2010, 02:44:47 am
Post by: Tarran on June 12, 2010, 02:48:12 am
Post by: Nabobalis on June 12, 2010, 04:12:02 am
Post by: sizeak on June 12, 2010, 06:28:19 am
Out of curiosity, whats so difficult about coding in an edit function? Once you have the correct memory placement for the stats and skills (which apparently has been found) are there obstructions to changing the values?
It shouldn't be very difficult since DFHack provides all the offsets. I haven't said it would be difficult anywhere, it just takes time to get everything implemented and I haven't finished displaying all of the information yet.
Post by: Vattic on June 12, 2010, 06:39:41 am
Post by: Rumrusher on June 12, 2010, 11:00:23 am
I was hunting down that tool to test if it could substitute for starting the pregnancy timer with little or no need of another male. (the old way I did it was swapping the race as cats in fort mode then change them back before they drop kittens.)
still I need a taming utility to convert friendlies to my civ.
best of wishes on getting demons to be less deadly or more.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 12, 2010, 12:06:08 pm
It's too bad I know absolutely nothing about coding, or I'd offer to help. As it stands, I'd just get in the way with my useless "How do I start Python? What's this do? Why won't it print 'Hello world!'?"
Post by: Psieye on June 12, 2010, 12:21:40 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 12, 2010, 01:41:07 pm
Post by: Psieye on June 12, 2010, 03:48:07 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 12, 2010, 04:25:21 pm
Both, but what I wanted was to see the actual XP progress towards the next level of strength or any other attribute.
Eventually I'd like the raw xp value displayed in a tool tip when you hover over the progress bar. Currently progress is not displayed towards attributes (though racial average is), only skills since I'm not sure if DFHack reads those values or not (or even if they exist in game). The struct for holding attributes has rather cryptically named members apart from level and peterix isn't currently on IRC. Will get back to you when I know :)
Post by: sizeak on June 13, 2010, 09:20:11 am
Post by: Shaostoul on June 13, 2010, 10:15:32 am
Either way, it's a nice and simple addition.
Post by: sizeak on June 13, 2010, 10:50:09 am
Post by: Shaostoul on June 13, 2010, 10:57:28 am
Post by: sizeak on June 13, 2010, 11:42:38 am
Post by: Shaostoul on June 13, 2010, 01:23:09 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 13, 2010, 03:40:13 pm
So in summary, no idea.
Post by: Shaostoul on June 13, 2010, 03:45:43 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 14, 2010, 07:21:38 pm
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 15, 2010, 01:10:28 am
Post by: Tarran on June 15, 2010, 01:29:52 am
Update 14/06/2010: Can now edit Happiness values :DNice. Though I doubt the functionality of editing happiness. :P
Post by: magikarcher on June 15, 2010, 03:15:20 am
Post by: Psieye on June 15, 2010, 03:58:05 am
I wonder if you can also dictate what mood hits - then getting Macabre or Fell moods should be easy.
Post by: sizeak on June 15, 2010, 06:24:18 am
Post by: sizeak on June 15, 2010, 06:25:16 am
Skill editing would be nice as an added feature, you can already see the skills and can use the same way as you edited happiness.
Skill editing was planned from the beginning :)
Update 15/06/2010
- Flag editing added
Post by: darius on June 15, 2010, 11:52:22 am
Post by: sizeak on June 15, 2010, 12:06:05 pm
will it be able to edit items?
That's an interesting question, which I just had to ask peterix a few things about. Currently its not planned but I can add it to the suggestions list for looking into somewhere down the line. The main things are that currently the DFHack items module its still under serious development and it seems that editing items will probably be significantly more difficult than editing creatures.
So while I'll add it to the suggestions list, don't get your hopes up or expect anything soon... or possibly ever :D
Post by: s20dan on June 15, 2010, 12:27:16 pm
I have a save with one possessed dwarf here for you but its much larger than the last save I gave you, so my host won't accept it. Message me your email or icq or something and ill try and send it that way.
Post by: darius on June 15, 2010, 03:30:38 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 15, 2010, 04:28:41 pm
@Darius: I'm not sure about a hex editor tbh, but displaying the offset of certain things is possible.
Edit: Just added attribute writing to :D
Post by: Doughboi on June 15, 2010, 10:35:29 pm
Keep up the good work and I hope to see a release soon to play with. :D
Post by: MaximumZero on June 15, 2010, 10:52:23 pm
Edit: Also, will I be able to modify the number of dorfs in my fortress at any given point? Say I want to start with 20 or so...will I be able to just add them into the save?
Post by: Rumrusher on June 15, 2010, 10:52:53 pm
Post by: Tarran on June 15, 2010, 11:01:20 pm
so does this mean I can enslave friendly goblins by slapping a tame flag and saving the game?They won't do any jobs though. You need the "Friendship" enchancer (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55713) for that, which I doubt works for 31.06.
Post by: Wyrm on June 15, 2010, 11:16:04 pm
Post by: Aklyon on June 16, 2010, 12:36:34 am
Another update, just implemented skill level and xp editing.I never used Dwarf Companion, so what does skill level editing mean? does it mean I could turn someone into a High Master engraver instantly?
@Darius: I'm not sure about a hex editor tbh, but displaying the offset of certain things is possible.
Edit: Just added attribute writing to :D
Post by: Shaostoul on June 16, 2010, 12:39:24 am
Post by: sizeak on June 16, 2010, 05:59:40 am
Will we be able to use your awesome tool to edit Dwarven likes/dislikes/preferences? And appearance values? Relationships? Pets?
Edit: Also, will I be able to modify the number of dorfs in my fortress at any given point? Say I want to start with 20 or so...will I be able to just add them into the save?
You will be *hopefully* (assuming it works when I get round to writing it) be able to edit traits. Eventually, though they're not currently displayed, appearance could be added for display and editing (again, in theory). Setting pets and Relationships is one of those "I suppose it may be technically possible, but don't expect it any time soon" things. TBH without doing some research and talking to petrix, I can't really say whether it's doable or not.
Editing creatures is working though, so you can edit creatures that are already pets. You can also do things like make marauding cats or tame demons. In conjunction with Darius' mod linked above, it should allow them to work for you.
The number of starting dwarves can be changed during embark by a number of tools, though currently not this one. As for adding dwarves while playing, I'm not sure that's feasible tbh.
Which platforms will this work for?
Windows and Linux. From what I understand, DFHack for Mac isn't really in a usable state right now. So if any Mac users want to use it, best you help get DFHack working on Mac! :D
I never used Dwarf Companion, so what does skill level editing mean? does it mean I could turn someone into a High Master engraver instantly?
Yes, exactly. You could also make them level 200 if you wanted to, though in game they would still be displayed as legendary, the levels do have an effect. The highest I've level legendary I've seen so far without hacking is 29.
Post by: Ogantai on June 16, 2010, 09:52:56 am
The number of starting dwarves can be changed during embark by a number of tools, though currently not this one. As for adding dwarves while playing, I'm not sure that's feasible tbh.Unfortunately none of them work with 0.31 (AFAIK) :( I've tried searching for the offset to try changing by hand (it should be somewhere near the starting embark point count, right?) but I haven't had any luck finding it. If you know the location please let me know.
Post by: peterix on June 16, 2010, 10:26:41 am
I'd say it's a constant... and as that, it will be part of some instruction in the code section.The number of starting dwarves can be changed during embark by a number of tools, though currently not this one. As for adding dwarves while playing, I'm not sure that's feasible tbh.Unfortunately none of them work with 0.31 (AFAIK) :( I've tried searching for the offset to try changing by hand (it should be somewhere near the starting embark point count, right?) but I haven't had any luck finding it. If you know the location please let me know.
Post by: sizeak on June 16, 2010, 10:43:43 am
Post by: Sarvesh Mossbeard on June 16, 2010, 11:01:01 am
Post by: sizeak on June 16, 2010, 11:03:02 am
Post by: bartavelle on June 16, 2010, 12:15:53 pm
Traits + gender switching are planned, don't think DFHack currently supports relationships. Maybe in the future :)
IIRC relationships are in an array (probably in the soul) and in this other structure that is used in legends. Could be horrible to edit and buggy when offloaded.
Post by: s20dan on June 16, 2010, 05:16:40 pm
IIRC relationships are in an array (probably in the soul) and in this other structure that is used in legends. Could be horrible to edit and buggy when offloaded.
There go my hopes of three way marriages
Post by: NRN_R_Sumo1 on June 16, 2010, 06:02:09 pm
Only three way?IIRC relationships are in an array (probably in the soul) and in this other structure that is used in legends. Could be horrible to edit and buggy when offloaded.
There go my hopes of three way marriages
Man I was hoping on making a dwarven Harim.
Post by: Rumrusher on June 16, 2010, 06:20:24 pm
the thing is to get a harem you might want to keep the happy levels high or else you get insane dwarf from seeing every one he/she falls in love die. worst would it be they be all have rotten flesh bunking in the same bed.
Post by: Ogantai on June 17, 2010, 06:32:02 am
In .38c the point count was at 0x007baf5a and the starting dwarves count was at 0x007bbdb5, so I was working off the assumption that they'd be a similar distance from each other in the new version as well.I'd say it's a constant... and as that, it will be part of some instruction in the code section.The number of starting dwarves can be changed during embark by a number of tools, though currently not this one. As for adding dwarves while playing, I'm not sure that's feasible tbh.Unfortunately none of them work with 0.31 (AFAIK) :( I've tried searching for the offset to try changing by hand (it should be somewhere near the starting embark point count, right?) but I haven't had any luck finding it. If you know the location please let me know.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 17, 2010, 10:16:06 am
Post by: Ogantai on June 17, 2010, 02:50:33 pm
Where/how do you find/modify that, Ogantai?From Rick's (sadly unupdated) DF Tweak. The memory locations are in the core.general.xml files in each version folder.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 17, 2010, 02:52:24 pm
Post by: Ogantai on June 17, 2010, 03:03:27 pm
I have a feeling that changing that number's going to be above my head.Hopefully RuneSmith will be able to do that for us then :D
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 17, 2010, 03:36:53 pm
Change the hex into numbers
Add 3711 to the number
Change it into hex
Search
Be happy.
Memory is my thing :)
(Finds number of starting dwarfs)
Post by: MaximumZero on June 17, 2010, 03:41:15 pm
Post by: Aklyon on June 17, 2010, 03:48:04 pm
I hope so. I can't wait for this thing to come out. I have such plans!Me too!
Post by: Shaostoul on June 17, 2010, 03:51:47 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 17, 2010, 04:02:16 pm
Post by: 0x517A5D on June 17, 2010, 04:04:00 pm
Here's a disassembly of the relevant area for those that care:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Ogantai on June 17, 2010, 04:04:45 pm
find the number for points.:o is this for 0.31.06 only?
Change the hex into numbers
Add 3711 to the number
Change it into hex
Search
Be happy.
Memory is my thing :)
(Finds number of starting dwarfs)
In .06, the byte at 0090D664 controls the number of starting dwarves. Use a debugger / cheat program / memory editor to set it to something between 7 and 255, before entering the "Prepare for the journey carefully" phase of Embark.No wonder I couldn't find it, I was assuming it was a 4-byte integer like in previous versions.
Here's a disassembly of the relevant area for those that care:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Big thanks to both of you by the way.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 17, 2010, 04:44:51 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 17, 2010, 04:55:35 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 17, 2010, 05:10:06 pm
Edit: After about an hour's worth of tutorials and monkeying around semi-blindly, I got it to work! I feel so accomplished. I managed to change the number of starting dorfs and points. I'm very happy with the results. ^_^
Post by: sizeak on June 17, 2010, 09:41:56 pm
Hopefully, assuming there aren't any issues I come across or whatever, then there could quite possibly be a release tomorrow(18th). Tried to get it out before bed tonight but since its 3:41 am here on the 18th, I'm to tired so going to bed. Night
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 17, 2010, 11:02:52 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 18, 2010, 12:44:11 am
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 18, 2010, 01:32:25 am
find the number for points.:o is this for 0.31.06 only?
Change the hex into numbers
Add 3711 to the number
Change it into hex
Search
Be happy.
Memory is my thing :)
(Finds number of starting dwarfs)In .06, the byte at 0090D664 controls the number of starting dwarves. Use a debugger / cheat program / memory editor to set it to something between 7 and 255, before entering the "Prepare for the journey carefully" phase of Embark.No wonder I couldn't find it, I was assuming it was a 4-byte integer like in previous versions.
Here's a disassembly of the relevant area for those that care:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Big thanks to both of you by the way.
This should work for .06 and future versions, it worked between 40d and 40c on both of them.
Im thinking this is because even if the location of the memory changes, there relation to each other doesnt, ie, in the code they are initialised rather close to each other, therefore allocated the same/close part of memory.
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 01:33:07 pm
Post by: Seraph on June 18, 2010, 01:36:01 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 01:41:50 pm
Edit: trying to upload to DFFD, taking ages :/ It seems to be down or something
Post by: Aklyon on June 18, 2010, 02:25:09 pm
Roger that (I only have a windows build done atm, setting up linux build environment atm.)try mediafire if DFFD isn't working.
Edit: trying to upload to DFFD, taking ages :/ It seems to be down or something
Post by: Shaostoul on June 18, 2010, 02:29:57 pm
My guess is you're going to release a couple versions. :P
So just release what's stable and you're content with releasing imo.
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 02:37:32 pm
Post by: Daywalkah on June 18, 2010, 03:17:49 pm
Post by: Aklyon on June 18, 2010, 03:20:10 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 18, 2010, 03:25:24 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 03:27:29 pm
Post by: Daywalkah on June 18, 2010, 03:35:29 pm
I will now incite a tantrum spiral that ends my fort by turning a very social dwarf into a zombie.
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 03:40:20 pm
Ahahaha good fun, another thing I've found is that if you set the "Has Mood" flag without using the mood tab to set a type of mood, then they go beserk :D
Also, do I need to do a guide for use or something? There are certain things that may not be obvious straight away. Such as by double clicking on happiness, skills, XP, attributes, sex, any traits, or mood in the mood tab that you can edit all of these. They are only saved back to DF when the write changes button is pressed. Setting a mood in the mood tab will also handle setting any flags needed to be set with it. The big red button does a force resume if DF stops responding. Also when using the combo box editing, you have to click off the box to get it to set properly or it won't save :)
Post by: darius on June 18, 2010, 03:41:26 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 03:44:03 pm
Post by: darius on June 18, 2010, 03:47:01 pm
But yeah if it will work... omg the possibilities...
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 03:47:47 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 03:48:13 pm
that reminds me... need to update my mod :/ (will do when 0.7 comes out...)
But yeah if it will work... omg the possibilities...
Yeah, I want to use it :D
Post by: rgon842 on June 18, 2010, 04:36:01 pm
I will let you know that I am playing DF with Deon's Genesis Mod. However, I am not using CREATURE:DWARF when playing Fortress Mode; I'm using a creature I modded myself. The creature does not appear under the Dwarves tab, but under the Creatures tab to the right of it.
Hopefully a fix can be made soon! This program has the potential to give more gameplay to DF.
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 04:43:04 pm
Post by: Omegastick on June 18, 2010, 05:10:23 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 05:25:06 pm
I can see where it's getting stuck in the loop, but I'm not sure why it's failing to write
Post by: rgon842 on June 18, 2010, 05:49:19 pm
http://rapidshare.com/files/400518714/DF_31_06.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/400518714/DF_31_06.zip.html)
File-size is ~47 MB, sorry about that (uploaded with DF music files as well).
Let me know how the debugging goes.
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 06:03:08 pm
Post by: Tarran on June 18, 2010, 06:10:26 pm
that reminds me... need to update my mod :/ (will do when 0.7 comes out...)FINALLY YOU REMEMBERED.
But yeah if it will work... omg the possibilities...
Anyway, off to test this now!
Post by: MaximumZero on June 18, 2010, 06:23:31 pm
Post by: Tarran on June 18, 2010, 06:24:53 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 06:34:38 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 06:35:07 pm
Note to self: Starting new moods leads to insanity. :P
Did you just set the flag or use the mood tab?
Post by: Tarran on June 18, 2010, 06:35:36 pm
Both.Note to self: Starting new moods leads to insanity. :P
Did you just set the flag or use the mood tab?
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 06:49:23 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 18, 2010, 06:52:44 pm
Edit: Also, is there any way to put the nickname in the name box, or can I edit the name straight up to see whom I am editing amongst my friends? (I know, I'm an odd cookie. I like to put my friends in everything. You should see some of my Madden saves! I have whole teams built around those losers. :P)
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 07:00:11 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 07:18:07 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 07:21:12 pm
Is it just me, or is it only possible to edit skills that the dorfs already have? In my list, that's all I'm seeing. Maybe I'm missing something?
Edit: Also, is there any way to put the nickname in the name box, or can I edit the name straight up to see whom I am editing amongst my friends? (I know, I'm an odd cookie. I like to put my friends in everything. You should see some of my Madden saves! I have whole teams built around those losers. :P)
Not but it is one of the things planned, I just wanted to get a release with basic functionality out asap. There are a number of things I want to add.
Edit: Triple post FTL :(
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 18, 2010, 07:24:09 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 18, 2010, 07:33:37 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 07:33:53 pm
Hey just had a quick question. is there any way to make other creatures part of your fortress like in DC? like say changing goblin invaders to actual fortress residents instead.Should be, use the flags. I'm not sure which ones would do, probably either tame or is resident
Post by: Aklyon on June 18, 2010, 07:44:32 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 07:49:15 pm
Quick Double Question: can you steal the merchant guards if you want extra dwarves? how?
a) Probably b) not sure, you'd need to mess with the flags. Try turning merchant and visitor off and setting as resident? When it works they should show up in the normal unit list (in game) rather than as a merchant or whatever. I haven't had time to play or mess with things like this yet
Post by: MaximumZero on June 18, 2010, 07:58:58 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 08:21:17 pm
Edit: fixed, now uploading
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 08:32:47 pm
Post by: Firnagzen on June 18, 2010, 09:06:15 pm
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 18, 2010, 09:10:40 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 09:33:02 pm
Edit: going to sleep now since its 3:33am here so there will be a delay answering any more questions till tomorrow. Night guys(or gals however unlikely it might be)
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 18, 2010, 09:34:05 pm
View->show dead
...Christ im blind. thanks.
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 09:35:11 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 18, 2010, 09:43:29 pm
Well, I'm just here to have fun, but helping this thing come along is fun, so...
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 18, 2010, 09:47:00 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 18, 2010, 09:53:29 pm
Well i got a new crash just then. testing out how i can steal other creatures for my fort so i set one of my dwarves to Diplomat and sure enough he popped up as friendly. tried switching him back, crashed Runesmith and DF. so apparently thats not how you steal other people XD
Last post before bed :D I just tried setting the diplomat flag on a few and it hasn't crashed mine so that will need a bit investigation. A message just pops up saying a diplomat has left unhappy, then they leave :S Might just be one of those things tbh, I mean we are just messing around with DF's memory so certain things will have odd effects
Post by: rgon842 on June 18, 2010, 10:34:25 pm
Thanks once again sizeak for this wonderful tool. It has made my game complete. Can't wait for the new features you're planning on adding.
Post by: xtank5 on June 18, 2010, 10:39:13 pm
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 19, 2010, 12:22:09 am
Post by: Rumrusher on June 19, 2010, 05:15:00 am
it's just stuck at the check dwarfs section.
also I'm on deon's genesis mod since it's the only .06 version of dwarf fortress.
wait I can edit the happiness of dwarfs but that is all, everything else is pretty much irresponsible.
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 05:22:08 am
Looks fantastic, nice work with the quick updates to fix bugs.
Going to test it now.
System: Vista 64
Things I noticed: (Yeah, I get that its an alpha)
The newest download still has the "failed to write" when it writes anyway... Not much, just annouying
Editing traits adds a drop down box with nothing in it
First letter of first names are undercase, minor. I take it this is due to the old hungarian thing where you name veriables lower case first?
Refreshing asks if you want to write changes even if you havent made any.
Might want to add a ruitine that checks if you have made any changes, ie, you make a change and it sets a value to 1/true, then when you refresh its reset.
Mood tab is empty (Only when you have moods maybe? Sorry if I misunderstood this)
Attributes are bugged anyway. I THINK it reads the wrong persons attributes. Infact im certain on this. Change an attribute, set it, it will show you a different value, then you click back on the person u changed and its fine.
This happens with alot of things. You click the person, change the value, set it, it highlights the same person but anouther one is selected and anouther person's stuff is edited.
Overall: Usable, putting up with the bugs becuase this utility is just that awsome.
Ohh yeah. And apparently trolls never get angry. (Traits)
And all demons are female.
And I can see tamming unkillable titans a good defence
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 06:43:50 am
Seems tobreakcrash DF and itself if you try to open it up before loading a save-game.
Hit the big red button. It will fix DF being unresponsive, then re-connect when a game is loaded
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 07:07:37 am
Id suggest. for a future update possibly. a heal button of some sort.
The new damage system needs working out first :)
I have a xp and it seems I can't move to other parts of the utility.
it's just stuck at the check dwarfs section.
also I'm on deon's genesis mod since it's the only .06 version of dwarf fortress.
wait I can edit the happiness of dwarfs but that is all, everything else is pretty much irresponsible.
Hmm I'm not sure on this, I'll have to gain access to an xp machine for testing
Button to reload raws, good help with modding.
Looks fantastic, nice work with the quick updates to fix bugs.
Going to test it now.
System: Vista 64
Things I noticed: (Yeah, I get that its an alpha)
The newest download still has the "failed to write" when it writes anyway... Not much, just annouying
Editing traits adds a drop down box with nothing in it
First letter of first names are undercase, minor. I take it this is due to the old hungarian thing where you name veriables lower case first?
Refreshing asks if you want to write changes even if you havent made any.
Might want to add a ruitine that checks if you have made any changes, ie, you make a change and it sets a value to 1/true, then when you refresh its reset.
Mood tab is empty (Only when you have moods maybe? Sorry if I misunderstood this)
Attributes are bugged anyway. I THINK it reads the wrong persons attributes. Infact im certain on this. Change an attribute, set it, it will show you a different value, then you click back on the person u changed and its fine.
This happens with alot of things. You click the person, change the value, set it, it highlights the same person but anouther one is selected and anouther person's stuff is edited.
Overall: Usable, putting up with the bugs becuase this utility is just that awsome.
Ohh yeah. And apparently trolls never get angry. (Traits)
And all demons are female.
And I can see tamming unkillable titans a good defence
If it's saying failed to write it's because something has failed to be written and the flag keep track of whether that thing needs to written or not will not be reset till it is successfully written. There is a check to see if changes have been made and it's reset when all changes are successfully written. Maybe the keep trying till it works is not what everyone wants and a refresh should wipe any changes if no is answered?
I don't get any 'false' write changes message so you must have changed something even if it was to the same value. Either that or something failed to write previously in which case it is still trying to write that value. as I said above I can set it to wipe changes on a no answer if that's what people want.
Mood tab is empty when you don't have a mood. Though the fact that the field name's aren't displayed is a bug and I'll fix asap. I have also done something to cause a bug in the editable fields under the mood tab which will also need fixing asap.
Umm I don't have any problems editing the wrong persons attributes, try hitting enter or clicking off the edited one onto another part of the same table view (the same white box not trying to be condescending). Editing traits seems fine for me :S
I can't do fixes till a bit later as I have to go out, sorry. Will do them in a few hours
Post by: Rumrusher on June 19, 2010, 07:15:20 am
oh so does this only work on 31.06 or does it work for any of the 31.# if the later then maybe I could go back to using 03.
Post by: jaked122 on June 19, 2010, 08:51:09 am
Post by: jaked122 on June 19, 2010, 08:54:53 am
Post by: Labhras on June 19, 2010, 10:17:54 am
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 10:31:39 am
wait, how did you manage to get DF to start responding again after it stopped?
the big red button
My problems could be due to me running vista 64 bit or genesis ect ect.
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 10:43:03 am
I found a temp solution to my problem. I need to swap between two windows to navigate through the utility. task manager has a always on top so one could swap between(DF also to).
oh so does this only work on 31.06 or does it work for any of the 31.# if the later then maybe I could go back to using 03.
Yeah it should work with .03
I'm back to windows so I will try your tool, it looks good.
Petrix said it worked under wine on linux to
wait, how did you manage to get DF to start responding again after it stopped?
Big red button
I can't seem to figure out how things work, and when I try to write the changes, it gives me an error and says nothing was written.
I'm not sure why people are getting things not writing, but it could be the case that a lot of people seem to having is that the changes are written even though it says that they were not written. I'm back now so I'll work on some bugs
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 11:07:44 am
To make this work:
right click on the .exe, properties, compatability, change the mode to compatable for xp service pack 2
run as admin
Works now. Sorry for bothering you xD
I can now select traits, now I have the "Says it cant write but does" bug still.
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 11:13:28 am
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 11:14:02 am
NOTICE: Does not work with 64 bit or vista systems (Im not sure which, I have both)
To make this work:
right click on the .exe, properties, compatability, change the mode to compatable for xp service pack 2
run as admin
Works now. Sorry for bothering you xD
I can now select traits, now I have the "Says it cant write but does" bug still.
I'm on Windows 7 x64 and it's ok
Post by: MaximumZero on June 19, 2010, 11:22:35 am
Post by: Tarran on June 19, 2010, 11:29:00 am
NOTICE: Does not work with 64 bit or vista systems (Im not sure which, I have both)Works completely fine without compatibility on. Vista 64Bit.
To make this work:
right click on the .exe, properties, compatability, change the mode to compatable for xp service pack 2
run as admin
Works now. Sorry for bothering you xD
I can now select traits, now I have the "Says it cant write but does" bug still.
Post by: Aklyon on June 19, 2010, 11:35:04 am
NOTICE: Does not work with 64 bit or vista systems (Im not sure which, I have both)It works perfectly fine for me on Windows 7/64-bit. no messing around compatibility or anything. I started a fortress, messed around with my dwarves, saved, reloaded, messed around a bit more, no weirdness or not-writing messages.
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 11:38:04 am
Also, has anyone used the main race changing feature I added yet, so the main tab displays a race other then dwarves?
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 11:47:28 am
Edit: Also I haven't yet tested it on xp, assuming these other issues are ok(ish) for now then I'll try to get to it for you
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 11:54:56 am
But yeah, that sorted out the problems for me.
In the new version, the write bug is fixed and mood tab works. Thanks
Did you run it as admin tho? I know that goes without saying, but it might be the program doesn't have rights to check wether its writen/write without admin.
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 12:04:48 pm
Next I need to get back to getting the linux build going :)
Post by: MaximumZero on June 19, 2010, 12:06:10 pm
Post by: Truean on June 19, 2010, 12:07:40 pm
.06 runs just fine and is nearly perfect.
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 12:09:52 pm
What I've found is that moods don't work, at least not for me. I got a secretive mood in my first season with my big caravan, and when I went to change it, I couldn't change the type of mood. The moodable skill tried to change the type of mood, and didn't wind up changing anything.
Yeah that was a bug caused by me applying fixes to the version I was working on to add material editing support. It should be fixed in the version I just uploaded. Sorry
Seems I can't get it to work for the new version: .07.
.06 runs just fine and is nearly perfect.
I didn't even know .07 was out :S
The problem is that the xml file with it hasn't been updated with the .07 offsets, I'll find out if they've been added to DFHack yet
Post by: Truean on June 19, 2010, 12:11:55 pm
Quote
I didn't even know .07 was out :S
The problem is that the xml file with it hasn't been updated with the .07 offsets, I'll find out if they've been added to DFHack yet
Wonderful, thank you very much.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 19, 2010, 12:12:27 pm
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 12:13:06 pm
Well, when Runesmith upgrades to .07, so will I. I am never DFing without this tool again.
Agree'd
And I cant set the skill for moods, so they end in a failed mood and dead dwarf.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 19, 2010, 12:14:14 pm
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 12:15:03 pm
On a side note, setting mood to none resets all flags, so theres no flags that are on normal dwarfs. Had to fix this manualy.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 19, 2010, 12:16:43 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 12:25:14 pm
Very small side note: Random Swimming Tags on my miners. No, they are NOT swimingWell, when Runesmith upgrades to .07, so will I. I am never DFing without this tool again.
Agree'd
And I cant set the skill for moods, so they end in a failed mood and dead dwarf.
Yeah I was in the middle of adding editing for mood skill and materials when the bugs started appearing, I'll get back to it soon, promise. Until then I'd advise you to use it only for turning moods off. As for the swimming tab, I get it to, it's something to do with either DF being weird, the interaction between DFHack and DF being weird, or DFHack having the use for that flag wrong. Not sure which but it's not a bug in Runesmith for once
We're such fanboys. lol
Thats because the interface is user friendly and the coder is damn good at fixing bugs. Quickly.
On a side note, setting mood to none resets all flags, so theres no flags that are on normal dwarfs. Had to fix this manualy.
Ok thats weird, I just managed to replicate this
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 12:40:49 pm
QuoteI didn't even know .07 was out :S
The problem is that the xml file with it hasn't been updated with the .07 offsets, I'll find out if they've been added to DFHack yet
Wonderful, thank you very much.
The offsets aren't done yet, I'll update the download when they are :)
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 01:04:18 pm
Post by: DKS on June 19, 2010, 01:41:22 pm
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 01:43:57 pm
If it's possible, could I request adding to the ability to edit dwarfs noble positions.
Dont think so, did a quick search on the memory.xml and has nothing todo with noble. Would have to work with DF hack for that.
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 01:58:41 pm
Is it possible you could make it so ALL social skills are seen or have a tab of there own? I cant ADD social skills in through DT. I need apraisal for my broker, but we have no trade. Think my parent civ is dead.
Don't think it's possible (though I could be wrong) since they're handled differently to how labours are set and it would involve nasty stuff to do with vectors in DF's memory.
Also, think I've found why the flags are getting wiped out. Looks like a typo I made it the writing function I added to DFHack.
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 02:00:11 pm
Not sure about nobles, would have to add some more stuff to DFHack. Atm I'm debugging the flags writing function I added.Is it possible you could make it so ALL social skills are seen or have a tab of there own? I cant ADD social skills in through DT. I need apraisal for my broker, but we have no trade. Think my parent civ is dead.
Don't think it's possible (though I could be wrong) since they're handled differently to how labours are set and it would involve nasty stuff to do with vectors in DF's memory.
Also, think I've found why the flags are getting wiped out. Looks like a typo I made it the writing function I added to DFHack.
Ok thanks
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 02:02:00 pm
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 02:07:26 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 02:14:57 pm
I really wish I'd done better testing before release now. Now uploading to the same link, v0.1.3 fixed flags (and forgot to modify the about box so it still reads 0.1.2)
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 19, 2010, 02:28:35 pm
Ok seem to have fixed the flags being wiped out bug. The flags are stored in to 32 bit ints and only one of them was getting written back to DF, so effectively half the flags weren't working. So try any flags things that didn't work last time you tried again, since they may not have been written back :D
I really wish I'd done better testing before release now. Now uploading to the same link, v0.1.3 fixed flags (and forgot to modify the about box so it still reads 0.1.2)
Don't worry, it doesn't matter when your updating everything as its spotted. Its probably better to release it over the weekend when you have time, because you wouldnt've found every bug here. If you think about it, you have all the people that dl it also looking out for bugs too. You did state its alpha, after all.
Post by: DKS on June 19, 2010, 02:34:13 pm
If it's possible, could I request adding to the ability to edit dwarfs noble positions.
Dont think so, did a quick search on the memory.xml and has nothing todo with noble. Would have to work with DF hack for that.
Ah, I see. Regardless, I've been messing around with this and it's awesome. Great work sizeak.
Post by: sizeak on June 19, 2010, 03:48:38 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 20, 2010, 02:07:33 am
Post by: Coronel_Niel on June 20, 2010, 05:19:26 am
Post by: Old-one-eye on June 20, 2010, 08:53:33 am
Post by: sizeak on June 20, 2010, 11:35:59 am
To make this work for newer versions, dl the newest dfhack when its out and replace dfhack.dll and memory.xml
Yup. I will try to keep the download up to date aswell
Looking forward to using this so that my military are actually quick enough to catch those fucking Job-cancellation Dark Gnomes.
Ahahaha annoying aren't they :D
Any more bugs?
Post by: jaked122 on June 20, 2010, 02:08:41 pm
I'm running 64bit windows vista if that helps.
no further information other than I recently updated.
just ran dwarf therapist to test the operating system's reluctance to run Runesmith, however it did work completely correctly.
updated dfhack, then removed the upgrade, it still doesn't work, but now I'm getting SHM access denied) no clue what that means
Post by: sizeak on June 20, 2010, 03:08:29 pm
Edit: The pre-compiled version of DFHack doesn't appear to have been updated yet (unless someone has a link I don't). I'll build it from the repo and update the Runesmith download
Post by: sizeak on June 20, 2010, 03:37:56 pm
Post by: Old-one-eye on June 20, 2010, 03:53:23 pm
EDIT: this will probably have been mentioned in the thread already and you're almost certainly aware of it, but trying to edit skill level or progress sets them to zero.
EDIT2: is this the 'flag wipe' mentioned earlier?
Post by: sizeak on June 20, 2010, 05:07:25 pm
Excellent! I've been looking forward to trying this out since I found out about it. :D
EDIT: this will probably have been mentioned in the thread already and you're almost certainly aware of it, but trying to edit skill level or progress sets them to zero.
EDIT2: is this the 'flag wipe' mentioned earlier?
If you double click on the skill rating and type a new number in then press enter, or click off the skill it will set it to the new number. If you don't type anything then yes, it zero's it. I should probably fix this...
Are you on the newest version? (Help->About should read version 0.1.3) I thought I fixed flag wiping
Post by: Old-one-eye on June 20, 2010, 05:58:40 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 20, 2010, 06:13:19 pm
Post by: Old-one-eye on June 20, 2010, 06:38:34 pm
The possibility of a military of infinitely leveled dwarves is very enticing :P
Post by: MaximumZero on June 20, 2010, 06:42:23 pm
In .06, the byte at 0090D664 controls the number of starting dwarves. Use a debugger / cheat program / memory editor to set it to something between 7 and 255, before entering the "Prepare for the journey carefully" phase of Embark.
This is no longer true in .08. All I'm getting is Value = ??
Is there a new address for this?
Post by: Rumrusher on June 20, 2010, 09:26:23 pm
Post by: armrha on June 21, 2010, 06:09:07 am
One feature I really miss; The ability to change civ flag. Is that going to come back anytime soon? I loved grabbing a goblin or two for my fort with DC.
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 21, 2010, 06:23:56 am
One feature I really miss; The ability to change civ flag. Is that going to come back anytime soon? I loved grabbing a goblin or two for my fort with DC.
ah yes that was what i was trying to spout out a couple of pages back. the way you changed civs was by a flag when using DC. any clues on the offset for that?
Post by: sizeak on June 21, 2010, 07:02:39 am
Post by: jaked122 on June 21, 2010, 07:25:46 am
Post by: sizeak on June 21, 2010, 07:53:33 am
Post by: rgon842 on June 21, 2010, 05:17:37 pm
Everything ok now?
So far so good! I'm greatly enjoying the util, and I'm passing the time figuring out what the different flags do when toggled. Fun Fact: Checking the 'Dead' flag on a living creature does not just kill them, it literally eliminates them from existance! No body left, no inventory items, and completely missing on the 'U' screen.
hopefully you add in the ability to change the race of creatures.
I second this request in particular! Changing the race of your creatures on-the-fly makes for some FUN scenarios: Imagine a goblin horde sieging my fort and closing in on some hapless kitten caught outside. Use Runesmith to change race of kitten into [COLOSSUS_BRONZE]; grab your popcorn as you enjoy the show. :D
Post by: Old-one-eye on June 21, 2010, 05:19:45 pm
OMG! ULTIMATE PESKY NOBLE SOLUTION! No need to expend the effort on trap rooms!Everything ok now?
So far so good! I'm greatly enjoying the util, and I'm passing the time figuring out what the different flags do when toggled. Fun Fact: Checking the 'Dead' flag on a living creature does not just kill them, it literally eliminates them from existance! No body left, no inventory items, and completely missing on the 'U' screen.hopefully you add in the ability to change the race of creatures.
Post by: rgon842 on June 21, 2010, 05:23:20 pm
OMG! ULTIMATE PESKY NOBLE SOLUTION! No need to expend the effort on trap rooms!Everything ok now?
So far so good! I'm greatly enjoying the util, and I'm passing the time figuring out what the different flags do when toggled. Fun Fact: Checking the 'Dead' flag on a living creature does not just kill them, it literally eliminates them from existance! No body left, no inventory items, and completely missing on the 'U' screen.hopefully you add in the ability to change the race of creatures.
Yeah, but this kinda kills the fun of noble hunting. HOWEVER! This is the ULTIMATE PESKY UNKILLABLE FORGOTTEN BEAST SOLUTION! No need to create Orbital Strikes to kill that smelly blob of vomit!
Post by: 0x517A5D on June 21, 2010, 05:26:02 pm
In .06, the byte at 0090D664 controls the number of starting dwarves. Use a debugger / cheat program / memory editor to set it to something between 7 and 255, before entering the "Prepare for the journey carefully" phase of Embark.
This is no longer true in .08. All I'm getting is Value = ??
Is there a new address for this?
Yeah, looks like it's 008EB893.
I'm surprised that it moved so far. Maybe a different link order?
Anyway, I suppose I should make a utility to locate and set this byte.
Has anyone tried setting it to less than 7, for a hermit challenge?
And... probably should start a new thread instead of piggybacking on this one.
Post by: sizeak on June 21, 2010, 05:40:16 pm
Post by: Aklyon on June 21, 2010, 06:57:54 pm
But then your dwarves don't get credit for killing the unkillable. it just vanishes.OMG! ULTIMATE PESKY NOBLE SOLUTION! No need to expend the effort on trap rooms!Everything ok now?
So far so good! I'm greatly enjoying the util, and I'm passing the time figuring out what the different flags do when toggled. Fun Fact: Checking the 'Dead' flag on a living creature does not just kill them, it literally eliminates them from existance! No body left, no inventory items, and completely missing on the 'U' screen.hopefully you add in the ability to change the race of creatures.
Yeah, but this kinda kills the fun of noble hunting. HOWEVER! This is the ULTIMATE PESKY UNKILLABLE FORGOTTEN BEAST SOLUTION! No need to create Orbital Strikes to kill that smelly blob of vomit!
Besides that, AWESOME!
Post by: darius on June 21, 2010, 07:52:43 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 21, 2010, 08:59:53 pm
Edit: I couldn't manage to get that to work properly. Ah, well, I'll manage with 7 dorfs for now.
Post by: rgon842 on June 21, 2010, 09:29:51 pm
Post by: Aklyon on June 21, 2010, 10:12:23 pm
I have a small request, sizeak. Is it possible for you to code a feature that allows Runesmith to write a custom X/Y/Z position for a creature, to allow defacto teleportation? I know that it currently reads and displays this, but I would like to modify the creature's location as well. I had an idea about building a completely enclosed space, teleporting the HFS there, and then every time you get a goblin siege (or elf merchants), proceed to teleport the latter within the "arena". Joy of joys as you see the goblins/hippies utterly slaughtered by those nasties. :Dor you could use it to test how many goblins it takes to kill HFS. cage every goblin and/or elf you can, then save, backup the save incase it wasn't enough, then dump them all out into a pit and teleport them into the HFS in a huge zerg rush or non-dwarves.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 21, 2010, 10:27:54 pm
Post by: Shaostoul on June 21, 2010, 10:36:23 pm
Post by: Aklyon on June 21, 2010, 10:47:28 pm
Or you could use it to watch a gobbo fall 400 z levels to his untimely doom. ...what?you can already do that, thus its not as on-topic as what we could do with teleportation.
like, we could have a gobbo fall 5 stories repeatedly to save time building.
Post by: darkedone02 on June 21, 2010, 10:49:28 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on June 21, 2010, 11:01:23 pm
Or you could use it to watch a gobbo fall 400 z levels to his untimely doom. ...what?you can already do that, thus its not as on-topic as what we could do with teleportation.
like, we could have a gobbo fall 5 stories repeatedly to save time building.
Well, how about this, then? You could make an entire battalion of Gobbos fall to their doom from 400 z levels up without making a ridiculous deathtrap that takes at least a few months real time to build?
Post by: MaximumZero on June 21, 2010, 11:02:23 pm
I love this program, however there is one thing that i want to know... where is that ability for my dwarfs to understand relationships, as I maxed out all attributes and skills, yet I still got this problem where they have a poor ability to understand relationships or manage it...
Did you do any monkeying with the "Traits" tab? I'm not sure that that's there, but it's a place to start looking...
Post by: Aklyon on June 21, 2010, 11:05:10 pm
point taken.Or you could use it to watch a gobbo fall 400 z levels to his untimely doom. ...what?you can already do that, thus its not as on-topic as what we could do with teleportation.
like, we could have a gobbo fall 5 stories repeatedly to save time building.
Well, how about this, then? You could make an entire battalion of Gobbos fall to their doom from 400 z levels up without making a ridiculous deathtrap that takes at least a few months real time to build?
Post by: darkedone02 on June 21, 2010, 11:12:45 pm
I love this program, however there is one thing that i want to know... where is that ability for my dwarfs to understand relationships, as I maxed out all attributes and skills, yet I still got this problem where they have a poor ability to understand relationships or manage it...
Did you do any monkeying with the "Traits" tab? I'm not sure that that's there, but it's a place to start looking...
I did, but i don't think it's that. It should be at the attribute section because it's red instead of green, I think it's not added into it.
Post by: rgon842 on June 21, 2010, 11:22:55 pm
I love this program, however there is one thing that i want to know... where is that ability for my dwarfs to understand relationships, as I maxed out all attributes and skills, yet I still got this problem where they have a poor ability to understand relationships or manage it...
Did you do any monkeying with the "Traits" tab? I'm not sure that that's there, but it's a place to start looking...
I did, but i don't think it's that. It should be at the attribute section because it's red instead of green, I think it's not added into it.
It looks like Runesmith is missing entries for the following attributes:
-Kinesthetic Sense
-Empathy
-Social Awareness
That's probably why your dorfs still has "relationship problems :P"; you couldn't modify the Social Awareness attribute if you wanted to. I guess this is another feature request to sizeak for the next version? ;)
Looking at it from the positive side, at least your dwarves can rip apart sieges with their bare hands.
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 22, 2010, 05:39:17 am
0x517A5D: yeah i made a setting in my program to edit embark party. Unfortunately it crashes if less then 7. Didn't look into it, but my guess that somewhere later (alot?) in the code there is an assumption that party is of 7.
Excuse my complete ignorance on this process but how would you actually go about setting a higher number than 7?
Post by: Ogantai on June 22, 2010, 06:30:13 am
Use cheatengine, artmoney, or any other memory editor.0x517A5D: yeah i made a setting in my program to edit embark party. Unfortunately it crashes if less then 7. Didn't look into it, but my guess that somewhere later (alot?) in the code there is an assumption that party is of 7.
Excuse my complete ignorance on this process but how would you actually go about setting a higher number than 7?
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 22, 2010, 06:40:30 am
Use cheatengine, artmoney, or any other memory editor.0x517A5D: yeah i made a setting in my program to edit embark party. Unfortunately it crashes if less then 7. Didn't look into it, but my guess that somewhere later (alot?) in the code there is an assumption that party is of 7.
Excuse my complete ignorance on this process but how would you actually go about setting a higher number than 7?
Thanks. and so begins another learning experience.
Post by: sizeak on June 22, 2010, 06:50:55 am
I have a small request, sizeak. Is it possible for you to code a feature that allows Runesmith to write a custom X/Y/Z position for a creature, to allow defacto teleportation? I know that it currently reads and displays this, but I would like to modify the creature's location as well. I had an idea about building a completely enclosed space, teleporting the HFS there, and then every time you get a goblin siege (or elf merchants), proceed to teleport the latter within the "arena". Joy of joys as you see the goblins/hippies utterly slaughtered by those nasties. :D
This was/is planned.
I love this program, however there is one thing that i want to know... where is that ability for my dwarfs to understand relationships, as I maxed out all attributes and skills, yet I still got this problem where they have a poor ability to understand relationships or manage it...
Did you do any monkeying with the "Traits" tab? I'm not sure that that's there, but it's a place to start looking...
I did, but i don't think it's that. It should be at the attribute section because it's red instead of green, I think it's not added into it.
It looks like Runesmith is missing entries for the following attributes:
-Kinesthetic Sense
-Empathy
-Social Awareness
That's probably why your dorfs still has "relationship problems :P"; you couldn't modify the Social Awareness attribute if you wanted to. I guess this is another feature request to sizeak for the next version? ;)
Looking at it from the positive side, at least your dwarves can rip apart sieges with their bare hands.
Didn't realise I'd missed these out. Sorry, I'll get an update out with them in sometime today. Also, you do realise that kinaesthetic sense is at the bottom right... actually my bad, the row count was one less than it should be so it wasn't being displayed
Post by: sizeak on June 22, 2010, 11:17:18 am
Edit: On a good note, it's now possible to edit their positions, though be careful where you transport them to, it's very possible to transport them into solid rock...
Post by: rgon842 on June 22, 2010, 12:52:43 pm
Bad news. I implemented setting the mood skill and it still causes them to go berserk if you set a mood. I'm guessing you need them to have mood materials to, however these aren't present unless it's a real mood and currently its not something that can be set.
Edit: On a good note, it's now possible to edit their positions, though be careful where you transport them to, it's very possible to transport them into solid rock...
That's too bad about the moods, as it would be something that we could play around with. But look at it from the positive side: Ambush surprised your farmer? Instead of having him try to run away and eventually get killed, you can have him go in a berserk rage and take down some gobbos before eventually getting killed ;D.
Many thanks for the position editing though! This is a feature that will see MUCH use in my forts. You shouldn't worry about teleporting stuff into solid rock; after all, that noble who requests to be teleported to the booze pile will suddenly find himself in a porting "mishap"...
Post by: MaximumZero on June 22, 2010, 01:14:45 pm
I feel like I'm doing a lot of complaining and nothing to help. I just want you to know, sizeak, that I really appreciate this tool, and it's an awesome thing you've brought to life. Between Runesmith and DF, it's inspired me to go into programming, so long as there's a "Programming for noobz" class.
Post by: rgon842 on June 22, 2010, 01:30:55 pm
Is it just me, or does changing a gender only sort of work? I changed a male dorf into a woman, but that dorf still went on to bed down a woman. Also, Dwarf Therapist still sorts them by their original gender, even after restarting the program.
I feel like I'm doing a lot of complaining and nothing to help. I just want you to know, sizeak, that I really appreciate this tool, and it's an awesome thing you've brought to life. Between Runesmith and DF, it's inspired me to go into programming, so long as there's a "Programming for noobz" class.
Well, a man is still a man (or dwarf), even if he grows a pair of boobs after eating way too much McDonald's... :P
On a serious note, its possible that gender definitions are much more than just a simple flag. Quite possibly there's various underlaying code (and memory offsets) that still define that dwarf to be its original gender, regardless of how many times he visits the Runesmith for a sex-change.
One quick thought just popped up: Will a dwarf so changed be able to get pregnant and bear children?
Post by: sizeak on June 22, 2010, 01:39:56 pm
Is it just me, or does changing a gender only sort of work? I changed a male dorf into a woman, but that dorf still went on to bed down a woman. Also, Dwarf Therapist still sorts them by their original gender, even after restarting the program.
I feel like I'm doing a lot of complaining and nothing to help. I just want you to know, sizeak, that I really appreciate this tool, and it's an awesome thing you've brought to life. Between Runesmith and DF, it's inspired me to go into programming, so long as there's a "Programming for noobz" class.
Hmm yeah that'd a DF thing. As you can see, the change it clearly being written, there just must be something else that needs changing or something. The thing is, all the changes we do are done from hacking the memory and what piece of memory does what is all found through trial and error. There's no actual information from toady on what does what or where it is etc.
So basically we're just changing the value of bits of DF's memory while guessing at what it does. So really everything is not going to work, we just have to try and get it to work as well as we can with what we have.
Thanks for the support, it all started as something just for me that I wasn't even going to release lol. If you want to get into programming, I would personally recommend getting a footing in C before anything else, since it gives you a good idea of what the hardware is actually doing. It also gives you a good foundation for learning C++ without having to worry about OOP to much. The problem with languages like Java when you're learning is that they hide to much of what the system is actually doing and while this may be fine once you can program, while learning it's good to learn things what' actually going on in the hardware.
Post by: Rumrusher on June 22, 2010, 02:25:53 pm
well I had a female to male adventure swap back to female once I retired her in a town.Is it just me, or does changing a gender only sort of work? I changed a male dorf into a woman, but that dorf still went on to bed down a woman. Also, Dwarf Therapist still sorts them by their original gender, even after restarting the program.
I feel like I'm doing a lot of complaining and nothing to help. I just want you to know, sizeak, that I really appreciate this tool, and it's an awesome thing you've brought to life. Between Runesmith and DF, it's inspired me to go into programming, so long as there's a "Programming for noobz" class.
Well, a man is still a man (or dwarf), even if he grows a pair of boobs after eating way too much McDonald's... :P
On a serious note, its possible that gender definitions are much more than just a simple flag. Quite possibly there's various underlaying code (and memory offsets) that still define that dwarf to be its original gender, regardless of how many times he visits the Runesmith for a sex-change.
One quick thought just popped up: Will a dwarf so changed be able to get pregnant and bear children?
I wonder since runesmith can turn normal people who would say no to joining into excited meat shields can this be done on those who can't talk like wild life.
If I can find a way then all those who want to play as Beastmaster dreams can come true.
Post by: MaximumZero on June 22, 2010, 07:16:58 pm
One quick thought just popped up: Will a dwarf so changed be able to get pregnant and bear children?
I didn't think I'd ever say this, but it looks like I have even MORE of a reason to play this game. For !!SCIENCE!!
Post by: sizeak on June 22, 2010, 07:30:14 pm
The sex problem might be linked to caste according to petrix, so I'm going to have to look into changing the caste at the same time if it's possible & stable to do so.
Also, just a progress update. Implemented changing the civilisation of things with a checkbox for easy interaction. In game it lists them as tame, not sure if this is usual or not since I've never actually used it before. I've also fixed the keyboard navigation in the tables, so now when you press up & down to move through the list of dwarves or whatever, it actually changes your selection properly
Post by: sizeak on June 22, 2010, 09:50:09 pm
V0.1.4 Changes:
- Added position editing
- Added mood skill editing
- Added missing attributes
- Fixed keyboard navigation in the dwarf and creature tables
- Some minor internal optimisation
Post by: MaximumZero on June 22, 2010, 09:55:13 pm
Oddly, that fits the tune if you sing it out loud.
Edit: Also, I thought I saw something about different castes per gender in [CREATURE:DWARF] in the raw/objects/creature_standard file, but I wasn't sure what it meant, because I are noob. So, you're probably right about that.
Post by: rgon842 on June 22, 2010, 11:07:34 pm
V0.1.4 released & uploaded, done some testing and it seems ok, but I imagine you lot will find a bug or two. I hope not though, would do more but going to bed now as it's 4am.
V0.1.4 Changes:
- Added position editing
- Added mood skill editing
- Added missing attributes
- Fixed keyboard navigation in the dwarf and creature tables
- Some minor internal optimisation
SUPER SWEET! Those gobbos will not know what hit 'em (Actually, they will. A piece of the floor as they're falling from 400 Z up in the sky.) :P
This utility has progressed so much, I can't even fathom why I was playing DF without it. Runesmith will eventually be the all-in-one for serious DF hacking.
Minor request, if possible: Does dfhack have the ability to find the flag that sets 'On Break' status for a dorf? If so, can you add this feature to the Flags tab in Runesmith? It kinda ticks me off that my broker is "on break" and there are three different caravans waiting in the depot ::).
sizeak's Runesmith: We do what we must, because, it's fun.
Oddly, that fits the tune if you sing it out loud.
Edit: Also, I thought I saw something about different castes per gender in [CREATURE:DWARF] in the raw/objects/creature_standard file, but I wasn't sure what it meant, because I are noob. So, you're probably right about that.
Derailing the thread a bit:
Yeah, all creatures in the raw from 0.31 on have now two castes: male and female. You should already know what these two thing are. ;D The [FEMALE] tag allows for that caste to become pregnant and bear children; the male tag does nothing special, but a caste with [FEMALE] tag needs another caste with the [MALE] tag to do the thing with the birds and the bees. You are able to add additional castes to a creature entry, and, of course, add the gender tabs as well; you could have 5 different castes of childbearers and three "male" castes. Each childbearing caste can get pregnant and give birth to different castes as well, according to a population ratio that you specify.
Actually, this begs the question: What happens when a caste has both the [MALE] and [FEMALE] tag?
Post by: Greiger on June 22, 2010, 11:33:08 pm
This post is mostly just here to get this thread into my updated topics list. Nice work so far.
Post by: Shaostoul on June 22, 2010, 11:41:45 pm
I used your program for the first time today...
I am...
Very pleased ;)
The interface is very easy to use. I like how easy it is to mod stats.
Keep up the good work, now all you need to implement is the tile editor and I'd cuddle up next to you ;P lol... jk... or am I?
Post by: rgon842 on June 23, 2010, 01:36:43 am
I do believe the bottommost tag overwrites the topmost one. I recall toady mentioning that you can't have one caste with both tags, so I assume it is a conflict. And usually in the raws in the case of conflicting tags the tag that appears later in the entry overwrites the earlier ones.
This post is mostly just here to get this thread into my updated topics list. Nice work so far.
Thanks much for the response. I was actually hoping that they'd work together; it would allow me to mod "self-replicating" creatures such as oozes and other slimies.
Following up on this, I wonder if dfhack library has an offset that toggles pregnancy; this should allow for quick catsplosion :D.
Post by: Old-one-eye on June 23, 2010, 04:42:08 am
Bad news. I implemented setting the mood skill and it still causes them to go berserk if you set a mood. I'm guessing you need them to have mood materials to, however these aren't present unless it's a real mood and currently its not something that can be set.That's a shame, It's a thing I was really looking forward to doing. But will it be possible to change the materials required for a dwarf already in a mood? Becuase not having berzerk/stark raving/melancholy dwarves due to lack of shells would be awesome.
Nice work implementing position changing btw.
Post by: sizeak on June 23, 2010, 05:01:49 am
Yeah there is already some code towards that goal in the app, it's just commented out for release builds until it's done. It's a slightly bigger task than the additions to this update.Bad news. I implemented setting the mood skill and it still causes them to go berserk if you set a mood. I'm guessing you need them to have mood materials to, however these aren't present unless it's a real mood and currently its not something that can be set.That's a shame, It's a thing I was really looking forward to doing. But will it be possible to change the materials required for a dwarf already in a mood? Becuase not having berzerk/stark raving/melancholy dwarves due to lack of shells would be awesome.
Nice work implementing position changing btw.
V0.1.4 released & uploaded, done some testing and it seems ok, but I imagine you lot will find a bug or two. I hope not though, would do more but going to bed now as it's 4am.SUPER SWEET! Those gobbos will not know what hit 'em (Actually, they will. A piece of the floor as they're falling from 400 Z up in the sky.) :P
V0.1.4 Changes:
- Added position editing
- Added mood skill editing
- Added missing attributes
- Fixed keyboard navigation in the dwarf and creature tables
- Some minor internal optimisation
This utility has progressed so much, I can't even fathom why I was playing DF without it. Runesmith will eventually be the all-in-one for serious DF hacking.
Minor request, if possible: Does dfhack have the ability to find the flag that sets 'On Break' status for a dorf? If so, can you add this feature to the Flags tab in Runesmith? It kinda ticks me off that my broker is "on break" and there are three different caravans waiting in the depot ::).
Try the "Has Breaks" flag between "Had Mood" and "Has Moods", it might (should?) do what you want, not sure as I haven't tried it before...
So sizeak...
I used your program for the first time today...
I am...
Very pleased ;)
The interface is very easy to use. I like how easy it is to mod stats.
Keep up the good work, now all you need to implement is the tile editor and I'd cuddle up next to you ;P lol... jk... or am I?
Ahahaha glad you like it
I do believe the bottommost tag overwrites the topmost one. I recall toady mentioning that you can't have one caste with both tags, so I assume it is a conflict. And usually in the raws in the case of conflicting tags the tag that appears later in the entry overwrites the earlier ones.
This post is mostly just here to get this thread into my updated topics list. Nice work so far.
Thanks much for the response. I was actually hoping that they'd work together; it would allow me to mod "self-replicating" creatures such as oozes and other slimies.
Following up on this, I wonder if dfhack library has an offset that toggles pregnancy; this should allow for quick catsplosion :D.
It supports stuff to do with the pregnancy timer, but I don't think it's working with 2010 yet
Post by: Rumrusher on June 23, 2010, 07:39:41 am
with the apart of player civ in the misc section.
Post by: rgon842 on June 23, 2010, 12:05:26 pm
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Try the "Has Breaks" flag between "Had Mood" and "Has Moods", it might (should?) do what you want, not sure as I haven't tried it before...
I actually have tried the 'Has Breaks' tag; and like the goggles, it does nothing. It seems to me that the tag actually MIGHT prevent dorfs from having breaks in the future, but for those who are already lazing around, it doesn't really do anything. Even the old 40d trick of recruiting in military and releasing them does not work; as soon as they're off the squad, they go back to being 'on break'. ::)
It probably has something to do with a timer as well; maybe disabling this timer or modifying it to an absurdly higher number might stop the dwarf going on break.
Post by: jaked122 on June 24, 2010, 08:43:07 am
but it will be usefull in dropping goblins into the underworld
Post by: sizeak on June 24, 2010, 11:50:01 am
Post by: Truean on June 24, 2010, 12:00:08 pm
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Might add a kill button and the functionality to select multiple creatures...
Please just be sure to make forgotten beasts killable. I've had combat last 3/4 of a year and still loose dwarves while every single part of the beast's body was red.... *sigh*
Post by: sizeak on June 24, 2010, 02:27:19 pm
QuoteMight add a kill button and the functionality to select multiple creatures...
Please just be sure to make forgotten beasts killable. I've had combat last 3/4 of a year and still loose dwarves while every single part of the beast's body was red.... *sigh*
Use the "Dead" flag in Runesmith. It will instantly be dead as soon as the changes are written to DF
Post by: Aklyon on June 24, 2010, 03:06:37 pm
not just dead, completly wiped from existance. anything in its inventory and all of its still attached parts will be no more.QuoteMight add a kill button and the functionality to select multiple creatures...
Please just be sure to make forgotten beasts killable. I've had combat last 3/4 of a year and still loose dwarves while every single part of the beast's body was red.... *sigh*
Use the "Dead" flag in Runesmith. It will instantly be dead as soon as the changes are written to DF
Post by: Rumrusher on June 24, 2010, 03:27:01 pm
still why do that when you could tame and use them for your own needs.
nothing like having a mini army of titans ready to attack on your command (might need slavery enhancer to swap between the race in military to fill them in.).
what runesmith needs is a Heal section so one could revive some dead person and end up with a ghost of them(no body parts when rez).
Post by: Old-one-eye on June 24, 2010, 03:29:04 pm
there is a vanish flag in Runesmith if you have that much of a grudge with them.^This. If it's possible, the ability to resurrect dead dwarves would be brilliant, Sizeak.
still why do that when you could tame and use them for your own needs.
nothing like having a mini army of titans ready to attack on your command (might need slavery enhancer to swap between the race in military to fill them in.).
what runesmith needs is a Heal section so one could revive some dead person and end up with a ghost of them(no body parts when rez).
Post by: jaked122 on June 24, 2010, 04:25:51 pm
it has been done, however there has been no reliable utility to do so since the last few versions.there is a vanish flag in Runesmith if you have that much of a grudge with them.^This. If it's possible, the ability to resurrect dead dwarves would be brilliant, Sizeak.
still why do that when you could tame and use them for your own needs.
nothing like having a mini army of titans ready to attack on your command (might need slavery enhancer to swap between the race in military to fill them in.).
what runesmith needs is a Heal section so one could revive some dead person and end up with a ghost of them(no body parts when rez).
Post by: Rumrusher on June 24, 2010, 04:27:11 pm
well you can resurrect (tick off dead and killed from the creature) it's just they would keep their old wounds and die again and since DF keeps track of their deaths and will shutdown.there is a vanish flag in Runesmith if you have that much of a grudge with them.^This. If it's possible, the ability to resurrect dead dwarves would be brilliant, Sizeak.
still why do that when you could tame and use them for your own needs.
nothing like having a mini army of titans ready to attack on your command (might need slavery enhancer to swap between the race in military to fill them in.).
what runesmith needs is a Heal section so one could revive some dead person and end up with a ghost of them(no body parts when rez).
now the old ways to beat this was swapping the race of that dead dwarf with a Bronze colossus and wait out the fatal signs. some how with the hospital/lack of race swapping it makes reviving a tad hard.
Post by: Adultratedhydra on June 24, 2010, 09:37:50 pm
Post by: Bingbing on June 24, 2010, 09:54:06 pm
Me, I WAS going to press the dead flag on a group of goblin ambushers, turn my axedwarves into superlegendary freaks, and make a fisherdwarf actually capable of fishing...
...but then I noticed something very odd.
(WARNING, HFS AHEAD)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Shaostoul on June 24, 2010, 10:02:25 pm
Post by: Tarran on June 24, 2010, 10:03:18 pm
At this point, I'm just wanting a tile editor.Same here.
Post by: Shaostoul on June 24, 2010, 10:17:11 pm
Post by: Greiger on June 24, 2010, 10:22:55 pm
Nice to see a successor to DC!
Me, I WAS going to press the dead flag on a group of goblin ambushers, turn my axedwarves into superlegendary freaks, and make a fisherdwarf actually capable of fishing...
...but then I noticed something very odd.
(WARNING, HFS AHEAD)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: meowmix on June 24, 2010, 10:43:21 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on June 24, 2010, 11:24:38 pm
i think theres a funny thing with the "player civilization True/false" thing. not entirely sure its working as intended if its working at all as i have a cave full of ant people who have that ticked but arent part of my dwarf civ.I think it only works well in adventure mode seeing no one would attack any one in their own civ unless provoked or insane. still it make weeding out ambushes in fort mode funnier when a goblin rats out their position and gets killed for it.
but being a part of your civ might mean from the mountainhome that you move from than being a part.
best to slap tame on all of them and get the slavery enhancer for the extra help from below(unless you already have).
Post by: sizeak on June 25, 2010, 05:47:18 am
how come im getting rsexception with the new version? im using windows 7 64 bit, and uh yea the program just gives me that error whether dwarf fort is running or not then crashes with a runtime error when i close it
Are you using Runemsmith 0.1.4 and DF 0.31.08?
Post by: Eagle_eye on June 25, 2010, 12:32:54 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 25, 2010, 04:56:03 pm
Post by: s20dan on June 25, 2010, 06:45:55 pm
From looking at the dwarf I think that I can only choose skills the the dwarf has, however he doesn't have any workable skills, being a useless noble ;)
Post by: Doughboi on June 25, 2010, 08:59:21 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 25, 2010, 09:01:02 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 25, 2010, 09:02:12 pm
With the new version I'm trying to edit the Skill of a Fey dwarf from stonecrafting to say armoring but the only selections I have are the conversation skills such as comedy and consoling.
From looking at the dwarf I think that I can only choose skills the the dwarf has, however he doesn't have any workable skills, being a useless noble ;)
I'm not sure if it's safe to give him a mood skill he doesn't actually have...
Post by: Doughboi on June 25, 2010, 09:46:13 pm
Use DT to set new labours
Is there a way to right click a dwarf in the program and set all skills to a given amount?
Post by: Shaostoul on June 25, 2010, 09:57:41 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 26, 2010, 05:03:11 am
Post by: Stungun on June 26, 2010, 05:44:34 am
This is especially devistating to me, because through my RAW editing I have wound up with a race that has a global population of exactly 14 -- and one of them is now dead, with no more immigrants EVER arriving. So the only way I can populate fortress is by having my only married woman popping out babies (she has five sons and a daughter so far!) This lack of population combined with my average FPS of 5 means my fortress runs at a snail's pace, even with hacked speed. If I could just have those three back in action, I would be extremely happy.
I've even tried first removing [HAS_NERVES] and then unchecking "Nerves Calculated" in Runesmith, and not even that helped them -- it seems that [HAS_NERVES] only controls whether the unit's nerves can be damaged in battle.
Post by: meowmix on June 26, 2010, 03:00:28 pm
Post by: sizeak on June 26, 2010, 03:07:51 pm
Post by: Snook on June 26, 2010, 06:27:39 pm
i think it would be cool if we could use runesmith to heal wounded dwarves cause right now if i remove the killed and dead tags my dwarves just instantly bleed to death.
This just makes me think of this. (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2005/11/10/episode-622-now-shut-up/)
Post by: Rumrusher on June 26, 2010, 06:40:04 pm
well that and if you zombie them they would crawl around like blobs of nothing. necromancy has not been perfected yet.i think it would be cool if we could use runesmith to heal wounded dwarves cause right now if i remove the killed and dead tags my dwarves just instantly bleed to death.
This just makes me think of this. (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2005/11/10/episode-622-now-shut-up/)
Post by: sizeak on June 26, 2010, 08:53:59 pm
Post by: darkedone02 on June 27, 2010, 01:09:46 am
I think I'm going to add a button to set all dwarves attributes to a value as well as skills. I'm pondering having a feature to specify a race(s) to auto-kill the non-tame creatures of that race automatically on refreshing(updating)
I also wish we can just click value, and it will pop up a screen to set all value's to <insert number>, and everything in the value will be set to <insert number>
Post by: Snook on June 27, 2010, 02:03:18 am
Post by: bdog on June 27, 2010, 06:47:21 am
On another note:
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Post by: Flaede on June 27, 2010, 07:21:01 am
wow. SO much awesome possibility here.
Post by: Rumrusher on June 27, 2010, 10:37:22 am
I think I'm going to add a button to set all dwarves attributes to a value as well as skills. I'm pondering having a feature to specify a race(s) to auto-kill the non-tame creatures of that race automatically on refreshing(updating)oh I found out that in deons mod that if you get a demon king to hit a dusk elf he loses his nobility.
well this news makes it easier to over throw nobles this way.
Post by: Slackratchet on June 27, 2010, 11:10:10 am
Post by: Psieye on June 27, 2010, 03:28:30 pm
I don't suppose we could find a way to erase nerve damage? As far as I know, damage to motor and sensory nerves is completely irreversible ingame, and not even removing [HAS_NERVES] from the raws will fix a dwarf who has suffered motor/sensory nerve damage. This has led to several permanent invalids. I have no way of getting them back in action, neither through legit, hack, or RAW editing means.It's [THOUGHT] that you need to remove from the relevant organs/tissues. That's the way it was in 40d anyway, ref: Morul.
This is especially devistating to me, because through my RAW editing I have wound up with a race that has a global population of exactly 14 -- and one of them is now dead, with no more immigrants EVER arriving. So the only way I can populate fortress is by having my only married woman popping out babies (she has five sons and a daughter so far!) This lack of population combined with my average FPS of 5 means my fortress runs at a snail's pace, even with hacked speed. If I could just have those three back in action, I would be extremely happy.
I've even tried first removing [HAS_NERVES] and then unchecking "Nerves Calculated" in Runesmith, and not even that helped them -- it seems that [HAS_NERVES] only controls whether the unit's nerves can be damaged in battle.
Post by: sonerohi on June 27, 2010, 05:00:39 pm
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Post by: darkedone02 on June 30, 2010, 10:29:42 pm
I will also be nice if we have some short of hotkey's that we can use to use as well, like an alternative copy and paste that we can make. like if I want, I select configurate hotkey, select X (or all) value(s), edit to X value, press a button. so everytime I press a certain button, all values become X.
Post by: slink on July 01, 2010, 03:17:53 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 01, 2010, 06:13:57 pm
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Post by: sizeak on July 03, 2010, 06:39:35 am
Also in the update I'm working on I've added two new functions, one to set all skills of the main race to a specified number and one to do the same for attributes
Post by: Rumrusher on July 03, 2010, 10:19:36 am
I know this is a dumb question, but can we utilize this in Adventure mode?YES!
in fact you can teleport your self into hell, [misc tab]
talk to a demon, [misc tab, player civ if you are part of a civ, and try historical figure1 and 2 and diplomat and tame I think you don't need all of them but I didn't narrow it down yet.]
recruit said demon, [traits tab find the adventure trait or add it in, then max it out which should be the bottom option, then select join once you done that.]
poof back travel out to a human town take up a quest, [misc tab]
recruit the guy that gave you that quest, [trait tab adventure trait max]
find the poor sap the guy wants kill (if it's in town then have the quest giver punch him to start a fight,) [if your lazy then teleport the sap using the misc (the sap might be daze for a few seconds-hours-ever so try to knock some sense to him by teleporting a wild creature next to them)]
grab some popcorn and watch a poor sap(civdemon) fight a warlord and a helldemon. [best get a high ambush skill and try not to enter the fight seeing the town would pretty much kill the winner.]
then you could also recruit the poor sap if he/she wins. [same as before adventure trait]
some how between having a adventure son or daughter in the 31.#(and hospitals) I would really want to see if one could build a adventure in fort mode from those animalmen tents. so far deon's mod seems to makes looking for them hard.
Post by: Acanthus117 on July 03, 2010, 10:22:04 am
Post by: Rumrusher on July 03, 2010, 10:48:19 am
awesome.
"Having trouble convincing others to fight the good fight? Now they can't say no when you use the Mindrecruit plasmid! With a flick of a K they be glad to follow you to hell and back. buy now!"
runesmith is made for adventure mode the only thing missing is the Heal section.
Post by: Acanthus117 on July 03, 2010, 10:49:19 am
Post by: Rumrusher on July 03, 2010, 01:56:37 pm
man that sucks. looks like I have to either edit their entities to make it so or give up and settle in one of those lame premade forts instead.
Post by: BodyGripper on July 04, 2010, 06:09:17 pm
Post by: Ma88hew on July 05, 2010, 05:25:13 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 05, 2010, 06:59:07 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 06, 2010, 05:26:50 am
Post by: Yiab on July 06, 2010, 10:01:30 am
1) Changing the species of an animal, with an option that would automatically change the animal's attributes to fit within the new species' parameters (if that's not something insanely complicated).
2) Pregnancy manager to view/edit individual pregnancies.
3) Add an individual animal through a dialogue box. I'm not sure if this is even possible with the DFHack library, but if it is it'd be very cool.
4) Chain/Cage management. Basically, by this I mean an interface to not only change the "chained" and "caged" flags, but to also move them to and put them in a specific cage/restraint.
5) Magma building availability toggle.
6) The ability to change who is in which noble position, if anyone. For example, I'd actually like to have a Dungeon Master at some point. This may also require the ability to edit a dwarf's profession as well, though.
Thank you, and I love the laughing man avatar!
Post by: sizeak on July 06, 2010, 10:24:59 am
1) It is probably possible, at least to extent, but without investigating it more I can;t promise anything
2) I don't think pregnancy stuff for the 2010 versions has been figured out yet, but when it has been, sure.
3) I'm not sure quite what you mean by this, do you mean spawning a new animal unit?
4) Not sure about this one
5) By this do you mean so they don't have to be built on magma? It should be possible
6) Not sure on this one without looking into it
GITS is awesome. Fact.
Post by: Coronel_Niel on July 06, 2010, 10:32:56 am
~15000 forum members and only ~400 downloads :(
Not all of those forum members are active and theres a lot of pages of happy people commenting they like this program. Even if it has a small fanbase at the moment it will spread.
Post by: sizeak on July 06, 2010, 10:34:40 am
Post by: Aklyon on July 06, 2010, 10:37:14 am
Post by: Yiab on July 06, 2010, 10:54:12 am
Glad you like it, I'm currently working on a update including the ability to set all the dwarves(or whatever main race you have set) skills and attributes in one go also working on mood material editing.
1) It is probably possible, at least to extent, but without investigating it more I can;t promise anything
2) I don't think pregnancy stuff for the 2010 versions has been figured out yet, but when it has been, sure.
3) I'm not sure quite what you mean by this, do you mean spawning a new animal unit?
4) Not sure about this one
5) By this do you mean so they don't have to be built on magma? It should be possible
6) Not sure on this one without looking into it
GITS is awesome. Fact.
For 3, yes, I meant spawning a completely new animal unit.
For 5, I did mean that we could switch whether or not magma buildings are even available to be built. Essentially, the "I've seen magma" flag for the location. We can already build magma buildings without magma present, they just won't run until there's some magma there.
Post by: jaked122 on July 07, 2010, 01:43:44 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 07, 2010, 04:45:41 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on July 07, 2010, 06:54:34 pm
Any luck with the gender castes yet?
Post by: sizeak on July 07, 2010, 07:01:56 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on July 07, 2010, 07:57:25 pm
Post by: Old-one-eye on July 08, 2010, 02:02:14 pm
Post by: Urist McFumbler on July 08, 2010, 07:32:14 pm
I can't wait for mood material editing!
Doubt it will happen anytime soon.
Based upon what I have read and can see and tested myself, no one has figured out how the code relates to material and how it all works not sizeak nor peterix the lead on the DFHack project.
I might be wrong though since I am not on the DFHack IRC channel
Post by: sizeak on July 08, 2010, 07:40:33 pm
Post by: Urist McFumbler on July 08, 2010, 07:46:04 pm
We can replace any inorganic material with any other inorganic material and same for organics. Changing between the two looks slightly more dodgy but without trying I couldn't tell you how successful it would be. Though I haven't been on IRC for a while so things may have changed. Main reason it isn't in Runesmith yet is because It involves the fun task of building a nice list of pre-defined materials you can choose from and I haven't had the energy to finish tackling it.
Glad to see that I was wrong. :P
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on July 08, 2010, 07:56:15 pm
Post by: Urist McFumbler on July 08, 2010, 08:06:20 pm
I cant get this thing to work. It keeps telling me there's not a suitable process. What's the secret to running it?
Which version of DF are your playing? 40d or 0.31.08?
PC, Mac or Linux version?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on July 08, 2010, 08:14:58 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 08, 2010, 08:20:10 pm
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on July 08, 2010, 08:21:48 pm
Post by: Aklyon on July 08, 2010, 08:23:37 pm
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on July 08, 2010, 08:24:51 pm
Post by: xtank5 on July 08, 2010, 08:26:32 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 08, 2010, 08:28:02 pm
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on July 08, 2010, 08:31:38 pm
Oh well. Im gonna hate using SDL, but Im sure this will be worth it. I'll tell you how it goes.
Post by: Shaostoul on July 08, 2010, 08:35:17 pm
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on July 08, 2010, 08:37:45 pm
Post by: xtank5 on July 08, 2010, 08:39:43 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on July 08, 2010, 08:40:48 pm
Try changing this line:
[PRINT_MODE:2D]
To one of these:
[PRINT_MODE:2D]
[PRINT_MODE:TEXT]
[PRINT_MODE:FRAME_BUFFER]
[PRINT_MODE:PARTIAL:0]
You can change the number after PARTIAL if you get problems with flickering, that might help.
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on July 08, 2010, 08:48:35 pm
Also thanks for the tip xtank. I wouldn't have thought of that.
Post by: BodyGripper on July 08, 2010, 09:56:14 pm
Post by: Old-one-eye on July 09, 2010, 04:43:01 am
Can Runesmith be used to keep merchants from leaving?Yes, when I tried it the macedwarf I kept behind just moped around at the edge of the map doing nothing for years, not even eating sleeping or drinking.
Post by: sizeak on July 09, 2010, 05:02:19 am
Post by: BodyGripper on July 09, 2010, 07:13:20 am
Post by: Rumrusher on July 09, 2010, 05:58:21 pm
because this pretty much cancels any chance of getting into royalty by 'dating'
Post by: Miko19 on July 11, 2010, 03:11:15 am
Post by: darius on July 11, 2010, 04:12:03 am
I wonder what's type of flag that keeps nobles from joining you I think it's a job title though.I don't think it's a flag. I tried changing jobs , because i wanted a priest in my settlement but never happened. I think it's something to do with legends stuff in global. And maybe with positions in your settlement.
because this pretty much cancels any chance of getting into royalty by 'dating'
Post by: sizeak on July 11, 2010, 04:32:10 am
We could use an update, here!
I only just woke up, give me time! :o
Post by: BoomClap on July 11, 2010, 04:35:06 am
I wish Dwarf Therapist guy to wake up.
Post by: Truean on July 11, 2010, 10:36:56 am
Quote
We could use an update, here!
Chill the hell out. Toady posted 31.09 a day ago saying he would update very soon. Toady then posted 31.10 at 04:53 am this morning. It's now only 11:24am the same day. This guy is nice enough to make free software. It hasn't even been 10 hours since the latest release....
I know we live in a society that's so compulsive it'll buy $40 tee shirts at GAP and whine when dinner isn't microwaved in 3 minutes, but we all need to mellow out.
Post by: sizeak on July 11, 2010, 10:44:14 am
Post by: MaximumZero on July 11, 2010, 10:56:18 am
We could use an update, here!
Easy, killer. sizeak has a job and a real life to tend to, you know. He'll get to us when he gets to us.
Post by: sizeak on July 11, 2010, 12:50:59 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 11, 2010, 02:57:07 pm
Post by: heywheresmysnack on July 11, 2010, 04:25:33 pm
Also in the release you can expect 2 new buttons, one to set all the dwarves(or whatever main race is set to) skills to a user input value and one to do the same for attributes.
Oh dear God. A million times yes!
Post by: MaximumZero on July 11, 2010, 08:58:19 pm
Has anyone seen mood materials that aren't either any, any inorganic, any organic, or any of the materials that would fall under those categories? Like has anyone seen an extract or anything?
According to the wiki, the only usable materials are:
Stone, Stone Blocks, Wood, Metal Bars, Gems (cut and uncut), Glass of all 3 varieties, Bone, Shell, Leather, and Cloth (plant and silk). Sometimes, apparently, they will ask for rock bars, but that's an output error.
Post by: sizeak on July 14, 2010, 07:33:54 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on July 14, 2010, 07:46:12 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 14, 2010, 07:54:22 pm
Post by: Naros on July 14, 2010, 07:54:59 pm
You've seen http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=58809.msg1394463#msg1394463 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=58809.msg1394463#msg1394463) right? The offsets mentioned in the DFhack thread?
I know I'm too much of a perfectionist, as I've just spent two days generating worlds to find the (near) perfect fort location, but this utility would save me the trouble of rerolling my first 7 dwarves until two of them come up liking adamantine or steel.
And not Slade. They shouldn't even know about Slade! I'd edit any dwarves to get rid of their like for Slade, aswell.
Post by: MaximumZero on July 14, 2010, 10:35:05 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 15, 2010, 07:41:46 am
Should be working fine with .10 now. Added the two new buttons mentioned to set all skills and attributes of Dwarves(or other main race) to user specified value. While I did some work on mood material editing, I haven't included it basically because, the materials being reported, let alone written seem slightly crazy. I think the mood mats stuff in DFHack needs a bit more work first tbh. Not to knock the DFHack guys, they're doing a damn fine job. Haven't had time to do huge amounts of testing but it seems stable. I now have to go make up the hours of work I should have done earlier... :(
Post by: Naros on July 15, 2010, 08:58:48 am
P.S. Sorry Zero. :P
Post by: Greiger on July 15, 2010, 10:11:10 am
The memory values you found appear to work with stonesense as well! 2 utilities back up and working from your efforts! Thank you. :D
Post by: sizeak on July 15, 2010, 10:12:18 am
Post by: MaximumZero on July 15, 2010, 10:14:54 am
Post by: Naros on July 15, 2010, 12:00:39 pm
I thought it was an implemented feature already, but I guess it's still planned? :)
*shakes stick at the dwarves who like Slade*
Post by: sizeak on July 15, 2010, 12:28:36 pm
Post by: heywheresmysnack on July 15, 2010, 10:05:47 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 16, 2010, 05:41:24 am
Post by: Deteramot on July 16, 2010, 09:38:35 am
Post by: sizeak on July 16, 2010, 10:20:44 am
Post by: Deteramot on July 16, 2010, 10:21:57 am
Post by: sizeak on July 16, 2010, 10:56:28 am
Post by: Deteramot on July 16, 2010, 11:41:59 am
Post by: Rumrusher on July 16, 2010, 12:51:02 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 16, 2010, 02:12:25 pm
I might be asking for to much but could you give us a class editor so that one could change a baby into a chef or a swordman into a noble?
I thought profession was decided by which ever skill was highest (apart from baby of course) :S If that's not the case then I've been believing a myth for a while :S
Post by: MaximumZero on July 16, 2010, 02:39:25 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 16, 2010, 03:04:30 pm
Post by: Psieye on July 16, 2010, 03:30:08 pm
Post by: xtank5 on July 16, 2010, 04:42:28 pm
EDIT: I just noticed that "changes" is spelled "chnages" on the reload prompt. :P
Post by: sizeak on July 16, 2010, 04:53:58 pm
Post by: Old-one-eye on July 16, 2010, 05:06:34 pm
I noticed a little bug with the set attributes and skills buttons. If you decide to cancel setting all attributes/skills to a certain level, it maxes them out. It's not a huge problem, you just reload your dwarves without saving the changes. However you loose any other changes you didn't save. :-\I noticed this to, fortress of super-Dwarves :P
Post by: MaximumZero on July 16, 2010, 05:16:31 pm
It would be pretty easy to add if you really want it
Yes, please! The more customization, the better! The only other things that I would want after that would be likes/dislikes and physical looks. I know a lot of people don't care about that stuff, but oh, the time I would spend on it.
Post by: Daywalkah on July 16, 2010, 05:27:35 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 16, 2010, 05:40:59 pm
Post by: Rafal99 on July 16, 2010, 05:51:55 pm
Post by: BodyGripper on July 16, 2010, 06:07:03 pm
It would be pretty easy to add if you really want it
Yes, please! The more customization, the better! The only other things that I would want after that would be likes/dislikes and physical looks. I know a lot of people don't care about that stuff, but oh, the time I would spend on it.
I'd get a kick out of making my starting seven look and act like me and my friends.
Post by: MaximumZero on July 16, 2010, 10:11:46 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on July 17, 2010, 12:03:58 am
That's precisely what I want, but I start with anywhere between 35-40 dorfs. It'll probably be more once I can Runesmith in some kiddies.whoa there I like the idea of age and size but runesmith babies? that kinda removes the test of getting adventurers kids when you could just make one plop out in adventure mode at any time...
that doesn't sound that bad either but it kinda removes point of the mega project I was working on.
oh well.
Post by: Poot on July 17, 2010, 12:28:32 am
Post by: sizeak on July 17, 2010, 04:45:51 am
Post by: MaximumZero on July 17, 2010, 08:29:16 am
That's precisely what I want, but I start with anywhere between 35-40 dorfs. It'll probably be more once I can Runesmith in some kiddies.whoa there I like the idea of age and size but runesmith babies? that kinda removes the test of getting adventurers kids when you could just make one plop out in adventure mode at any time...
that doesn't sound that bad either but it kinda removes point of the mega project I was working on.
oh well.
Basically, I Runesmith my first starting group to have the skills/atts they would have IRL. Example: My best friend is a dog trainer for Petco. Therefore, he gets at least lv 6 Animal Training and Animal Caretaking, but I usually set him higher.
What I want to do is set up my group to be my group. I'd like relationships, too (as said best friend keeps going after my wife), but afaik that hasn't been figured out yet.
Post by: Slackratchet on July 17, 2010, 10:41:57 am
I would like to be able to sort stuff by column if I click on the column header. Was quite useful in old DC and seems intuitive.
This would be favorite Quality of Life sort of update as well.
Post by: sizeak on July 17, 2010, 12:33:31 pm
Post by: Poot on July 17, 2010, 03:56:32 pm
Turning moods on isn't advised right now, you'd need to set materials which Runesmith doesn't do at the moment, even then I'm not sure how successful it would be
When can we expect it to work?
Post by: MaximumZero on July 17, 2010, 07:05:42 pm
Fine I give in, I'll do it for the next release unless Toady does a release I need to update for
You can follow your own design plan, man. I was just hoping to mark off a couple of fence posts down the road.
Post by: sizeak on July 18, 2010, 06:45:21 am
Post by: Naros on July 18, 2010, 09:45:38 am
Probably eventually, it depends on the DFHack support for it and me having enough free time, I've been quite busy the last few weeks so haven't gotten to do much on Runesmith
I'm patient, and hopeful. <3
Post by: MaximumZero on July 18, 2010, 10:33:14 am
Probably eventually, it depends on the DFHack support for it and me having enough free time, I've been quite busy the last few weeks so haven't gotten to do much on Runesmith
I'm patient, and hopeful. <3
If only all of us were like that.
Post by: Slackratchet on July 18, 2010, 11:20:05 am
It's something I should of done ages ago really, I'm just lazy (and want to spend all my time playing DF :D). I have a tame bronze colossus, although he just destroyed a door :/
Back when DC was the tool I tamed a dragon and thought it was great right until he began doing things like that. I then chained him just inside the door as a watchdog vs the Kobold thieves. This also was great right until the first kobold came by and the dragon lit him and my finished goods stockpile on fire.
Post by: sizeak on July 18, 2010, 02:08:26 pm
b) I want a dragon
c) He hasn't destroyed anything else yet so we may be ok
Post by: sizeak on July 18, 2010, 05:45:02 pm
Post by: BodyGripper on July 18, 2010, 07:41:38 pm
Post by: s20dan on July 18, 2010, 07:49:06 pm
Did I just make this siege permanent?
Hehe, at least you won't get another one ;)
Post by: xtank5 on July 18, 2010, 07:49:42 pm
Post by: BodyGripper on July 18, 2010, 08:41:22 pm
Did I just make this siege permanent?
Hehe, at least you won't get another one ;)
Wrong. :P
Just got an even bigger one, and their human "Master" is leading it. This almost feels like too great of a historical moment to cheat... well, maybe I'll just cheat a little. ;D
Post by: Rumrusher on July 18, 2010, 11:01:32 pm
you upgraded the siege to a war.Did I just make this siege permanent?
Hehe, at least you won't get another one ;)
Wrong. :P
Just got an even bigger one, and their human "Master" is leading it. This almost feels like too great of a historical moment to cheat... well, maybe I'll just cheat a little. ;D
now depending on how you pull this off you can have either unlimited gobbos for field work, fighting other gobbos, breeding, meats, crafts, if raw modded milking. good for you I'm trying to start a adventurer hermit fort so far with the lack of darius slaver enhancer for .10 I can kiss that good by.
Post by: Slackratchet on July 18, 2010, 11:56:25 pm
Quickly implemented sorting by name just now ;)
Yay! Thank you!
Post by: BodyGripper on July 20, 2010, 11:19:14 pm
Just now, I attempted to stop a siege by giving every invader the "Dead" tag. The top of the screen still says "Siege". Did I just make this siege permanent? :o
So, I was amused by this at first, but a year without a caravan has made it a serious problem. Is there anything in Runesmith that could fix it?
Post by: Rumrusher on July 20, 2010, 11:28:05 pm
so far if one isn't badly damage you can have them leave.
if not well try to zomby one and see.
Post by: BodyGripper on July 20, 2010, 11:33:14 pm
Post by: xtank5 on July 20, 2010, 11:54:26 pm
Post by: BodyGripper on July 21, 2010, 12:02:19 am
Post by: coco on July 21, 2010, 12:30:50 am
Additional my 4 gobbos i cheated death were caged. Neither they drowned (cause i couldnt put them out of the cages) nor atomsmashed helped.
You said you get later a bigger Siege headed by their Master. When you finish them off, is the Siege status gone?!
Post by: BodyGripper on July 21, 2010, 12:34:57 am
Post by: drayath on July 21, 2010, 06:29:44 am
May i make a UI request for runesmith.
Would it be possible to add custom columns of existing data to the main list view (either configure at runtime or via a config file). For example adding sex, or strength attribute.
Would make finding and sorting particular things easier in general, though the particualr reson i wanted it was to help with my breeding program. being able to see (and sort on) the physical stats and sex in the listview and having the page open to select the 'Slaugher' option on the right panel would make things vastly easier.
Thanks for all the work so far.
Post by: Magick on July 21, 2010, 05:33:22 pm
I have a question:
How far are you planning on expanding Runesmith?
Will the finished version be like tweak/dtil/dwarf companion combined?
Also, i really like this program.
Post by: sizeak on July 21, 2010, 06:24:46 pm
Hey, Sizeak.
I have a question:
How far are you planning on expanding Runesmith?
Will the finished version be like tweak/dtil/dwarf companion combined?
Also, I really like this program.
Hey,
To be honest I'm not sure. My original aim was just to write an app like DC that was compatible with the new versions. While it still has a few of DC's abilities missing (mainly mood related things), I think I'm doing fairly well on that front so far.
Most things that have been suggested I will probably add at some point, such as the likes editing if it's possible. The main limitation currently is the amount of free time I have, which has been significantly reduced over the last few weeks. Hopefully I'll be able to find a bit more time to work on RS soon but if not I'll just have to do what I can, when I can. Like so far this week, I haven't had time to finish the sorting stuff I started at the weekend, though I guess I could have been doing it just now when I was playing Borderlands :D
So in short (TL;DR) I'll keep adding various things when I get time and I'll try and keep it updated. Sorting is the current/next thing I'm doing, then after that I'll probably go back to mood editing which is pretty much done, It just needs testing. I think it would be good if some people with a bit of free time and experience were willing to put together a short guide on what the various flags can be used for (which could also lead to better names for them in RS) as you lot seem to have more experiance actually using it than me :D
Post by: MaximumZero on July 21, 2010, 06:48:26 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 21, 2010, 07:33:17 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on July 21, 2010, 07:44:33 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on July 22, 2010, 12:09:42 am
Post by: Magick on July 22, 2010, 12:36:41 am
To be honest I'm not sure. My original aim was just to write an app like DC that was compatible with the new versions. While it still has a few of DC's abilities missing (mainly mood related things), I think I'm doing fairly well on that front so far.Actually, DC didn't even have a fully functional mood system. As in, you couldn't induce them and have them work. You had to wait, or press the instamood button and hope you got what you wanted. Also, when i mentioned Dtil and Tweak, they both have very useful map editing tools(creating magma/river sources, clearing/creating mud, etc.) which have yet to be remade for 31.10.
So in short (TL;DR) I'll keep adding various things when I get time and I'll try and keep it updated. Sorting is the current/next thing I'm doing, then after that I'll probably go back to mood editing which is pretty much done, It just needs testing. I think it would be good if some people with a bit of free time and experience were willing to put together a short guide on what the various flags can be used for (which could also lead to better names for them in RS) as you lot seem to have more experience actually using it than me :D
I'd be willing to test some stuff for you, if you need me to. Just PM me about it.
Spoiler: Flags Guide (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Bringing The Dead Back To Life(Not possible yet) (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: bartavelle on July 22, 2010, 06:59:37 am
Actually, DC didn't even have a fully functional mood system. As in, you couldn't induce them and have them work. You had to wait, or press the instamood button and hope you got what you wanted.
Actually you could induce a mood, but not the related "mood job". I don't believe we are at this point yet, so it will require a bit more stuff in DFHack to enable it. On the other hand, it could be possible to tweak the instamood into doing more what you want (dwarf selection, mood type selection, but not final item selection). I personnaly did this a couple time with a debugger.
Spoiler: Bringing The Dead Back To Life(Not possible yet) (click to show/hide)
You also had to put the blood back in his veins, remove all bleeding and choking. As this was not implemented in DC, people used to have the creature be a temporary zombie, so that counters were reset. I'm not sure how this does with the new versions.
Post by: MaximumZero on July 22, 2010, 09:14:58 am
Post by: MaximumZero on July 23, 2010, 10:13:08 am
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=39229.1545
Post by: sizeak on July 23, 2010, 10:26:10 am
Post by: xDarkz on July 23, 2010, 06:31:22 pm
Excellent, I'll get to work on it as soon as I've finished work. (unless the DFHack guys have already updated them *hopes* :D)
Thank you so much man! :] Can't wait for Runesmith to work again. ;D
Post by: JanusTwoface on July 23, 2010, 06:39:08 pm
Post by: devek on July 23, 2010, 07:23:55 pm
Post by: Eagleon on July 23, 2010, 07:24:52 pm
Post by: rhonyn on July 24, 2010, 03:13:17 am
I believe one point needs some emphasis: Dtil and Tweak were fantastic mods that i have yet to see for the new versions. Those two made doing some fun things in odd embarks possible, let alone worth doing. Besides, with those utilities built into runesmith, it will make it the one stop shop for gameplay modding.To be honest I'm not sure. My original aim was just to write an app like DC that was compatible with the new versions. While it still has a few of DC's abilities missing (mainly mood related things), I think I'm doing fairly well on that front so far.Actually, DC didn't even have a fully functional mood system. As in, you couldn't induce them and have them work. You had to wait, or press the instamood button and hope you got what you wanted. Also, when i mentioned Dtil and Tweak, they both have very useful map editing tools(creating magma/river sources, clearing/creating mud, etc.) which have yet to be remade for 31.10.
Personally, the top three things I'd like to see in runesmith are:
1) an easy interface to change starting dwarves and starting points (see tweak)
2) an easy way to allow magma buildings without magma discovery (especially for weird embark locations)
3) and finally, a tile editor
DC was fantastic, and i absolutely loved using it, but i always had to use it in combination with tweak and sometimes dtil. to have a single application to go through for everything, well, that would be magical.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on July 24, 2010, 03:44:28 am
Personally, the top three things I'd like to see in runesmith are:
1) an easy interface to change starting dwarves and starting points (see tweak)
2) an easy way to allow magma buildings without magma discovery (especially for weird embark locations)
3) and finally, a tile editor
DC was fantastic, and i absolutely loved using it, but i always had to use it in combination with tweak and sometimes dtil. to have a single application to go through for everything, well, that would be magical.
I agree with all of this.
Post by: xDarkz on July 25, 2010, 03:44:53 am
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on July 25, 2010, 03:56:12 am
Make Runesmith's interface able to replicate the functions of Dwarf Therapist please, DX.
Yeah DT is for managing what jobs/labours dwarfs have etc. This is for doing things like changing a dwarf's strength to max or making him a zombie. I won't be implementing any functionality that is available in DT, since DT is very good at what it does and a) I don't want to tread on people's toes and b) it's not the functionality I'm trying to replace :) I also use DT regularly
Post by: xDarkz on July 25, 2010, 07:02:18 am
Post by: sizeak on July 25, 2010, 08:29:01 am
Edit: shat, he has :| In that case I may think about it depending on how much time I get. I'm currently re-writing part of RS which is why I haven't released an update yet
Post by: MaximumZero on July 25, 2010, 08:31:37 am
Post by: Ockad on July 25, 2010, 01:04:50 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 25, 2010, 01:16:02 pm
Post by: Ockad on July 25, 2010, 01:20:04 pm
I am ecstatic again.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on July 25, 2010, 05:06:42 pm
Ah well, keep up the good work.
Post by: xDarkz on July 25, 2010, 10:20:26 pm
He has :S
Edit: shat, he has :| In that case I may think about it depending on how much time I get. I'm currently re-writing part of RS which is why I haven't released an update yet
Thank you Sizeak for the quick update with 31.12's quick-fix version. In regards to the whole Dwarf Therapist thing, you could officially and legibly become the new maintainer of the program. Chmod had said that he's looking for someone to replace him, and seeing how Runesmith is so similar, this might be an opportunity you might be interesting in :].
http://code.google.com/p/dwarftherapist/wiki/HelpWanted (http://code.google.com/p/dwarftherapist/wiki/HelpWanted)
Totally understandable if your time doesn't permit it though. Thank you once again for making our Dwarfing experience all the more better, my good sir!
Post by: armrha on July 27, 2010, 12:42:45 pm
1) I retire an adventurer in a town
2) I embark in that town
3) I attempt to convert the adventurer to my civ
But when I start, the adventurer is marked in runesmith as 'Player civilization <checkbox checked>' and if I uncheck that, he goes berzerk. If I 'tame' him in 3.0.12, he'll take orders and do labor, but he is not a candidate for military leadership positions or noble positions, which sucks because I wanted him to be my boss of my militia, and if I 'untame' him he goes back to his previous standing-around-doing-nothing behavior. Is there anyway we can get Dwarf Companion style inspection of the Civilization flag so we can see exactly what civ each creature works for and possibly change it directly? I'm really hoping convert other living creatures in the area to full-fledged members of the Dwarven society...
Thanks for your tool, it's been amazingly valuable so far.
Post by: sizeak on July 27, 2010, 01:03:38 pm
Post by: armrha on July 27, 2010, 05:05:09 pm
Displaying the raw civ ID wouldn't be difficult. Though without testing it, I could hazard a guess that the civ offset might not be correct
That would like totally make my day... Civ editing would allow for a ton of really cool stuff. If there's anything I can help testing-wise with, let me know.
Post by: sizeak on July 27, 2010, 05:54:40 pm
Post by: SeigeOps on July 27, 2010, 07:36:18 pm
Yeah, chmod decided that it was time to let DT go. Sad day for all of us, as DT is really necessary to play larger forts.
Yeah, its a shame really. That said, chmod had been at it for over, what, 2-3 year? I think he has a right to move on now.
Besides, the users can continue to update the project offsets unofficially in the short term, at least until we can find
a replacement to head the development for the newer DF version arc (and that will be at least several months away).
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As for Runesmith, I don't really have much in the way of suggestions, except maybe asking for a little more control over the
materials used in moods. Lost a guy once because he was demanding plant fiber cloth and I only had brought silk cloth (oh the irony).
Post by: Rumrusher on July 27, 2010, 07:41:13 pm
Post by: necrodoom on July 31, 2010, 08:51:11 am
Post by: InsanityPrelude on August 01, 2010, 12:16:01 am
Post by: Acanthus117 on August 01, 2010, 06:06:16 am
That's what I want the most.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 02, 2010, 12:53:27 am
Post by: sizeak on August 02, 2010, 05:36:31 am
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 02, 2010, 05:45:39 am
Post by: sizeak on August 02, 2010, 05:52:50 am
Also I have to balance it with actually playing DF, playing StarCraft 2 and a large amount of other games.
Post by: Neyvn on August 02, 2010, 08:08:59 am
Post by: drayath on August 02, 2010, 08:21:40 am
Design New World With Parameters
Pick a World Type
Enter Advanced Parameters
Embark Points (0 to 5000)
Post by: MaximumZero on August 02, 2010, 08:23:06 am
Post by: Neyvn on August 02, 2010, 08:34:11 am
On embark points, not sure if you are aware but if you are generating a new world these can be modified in game.
Design New World With Parameters
Pick a World Type
Enter Advanced Parameters
Embark Points (0 to 5000)
Oh no I didn't don't go there much....
Was looking for a way to do it without making a new map all the time though....
Post by: sizeak on August 02, 2010, 08:42:05 am
Post by: Neyvn on August 02, 2010, 08:45:16 am
Post by: Rumrusher on August 02, 2010, 09:15:11 am
Post by: Toast024 on August 02, 2010, 11:49:43 am
Also, I heard that one of the flags control motor nerve damage, what flag is this?
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 03, 2010, 06:48:20 am
Otherwise, great app, although I don't feel the need to use the editing functions - I get enough Fun without playing Holistic. :)
Post by: sizeak on August 03, 2010, 07:14:06 am
Will we be able to edit a creature's race/species. Also, will we be able to spawn creatures at will? Both of these would be very useful functions.
Also, I heard that one of the flags control motor nerve damage, what flag is this?
Race editing might be possible, not sure how safe it would be though. Spawning creatures is probably not going to happen for technical reasons.
Just a request on my part, would it be possible to implement an export function to CSV or something? Runesmith's mighty handy for checking out traits and such but manually copy/pasting gets a bit tedious :P
Otherwise, great app, although I don't feel the need to use the editing functions - I get enough Fun without playing Holistic. :)
Wouldn't really be difficult to do, though XML might be a better option, maybe even both
Post by: Rumrusher on August 03, 2010, 07:38:54 am
the only real danger is getting a man who looks like a man but say they are a snow brute, save come back to them and found out he really a snow brute. race changing really can take reality and give it aWill we be able to edit a creature's race/species. Also, will we be able to spawn creatures at will? Both of these would be very useful functions.
Also, I heard that one of the flags control motor nerve damage, what flag is this?
Race editing might be possible, not sure how safe it would be though. Spawning creatures is probably not going to happen for technical reasons.Just a request on my part, would it be possible to implement an export function to CSV or something? Runesmith's mighty handy for checking out traits and such but manually copy/pasting gets a bit tedious :P
Otherwise, great app, although I don't feel the need to use the editing functions - I get enough Fun without playing Holistic. :)
Wouldn't really be difficult to do, though XML might be a better option, maybe even both
Post by: Greiger on August 03, 2010, 09:56:22 am
1 Move critter to surface.
2 Remove the tags that make it a funzy.
3 Change it into the desired creature.
4 Save/reload.
Unfortunately back in Companion changing the species of a creature would only partially work, even after a save/reload (which fixes the majority of the things that remained from the old creature) the creature's size would not change from the original creature unless it made a child>adult transition sometime after the change. I have no idea if that would still happen in DF2010 with how the size system changed. But that could be one possible hurdle to creature species change operations.
Post by: peterix on August 03, 2010, 10:08:41 am
Theoretically, if somebody wanted to spawn a creature they could sorta do it by editing a critter from HFS. Naturally it would require species changes, but since there usually are one or two milling around down there that yer not likely to ever interact with you probably won't notice the moved critter.Well, the creatures are now more complicated than before. I'm afraid that just changing a few flags and one number will only lead to crashes.
1 Move critter to surface.
2 Remove the tags that make it a funzy.
3 Change it into the desired creature.
4 Save/reload.
Unfortunately back in Companion changing the species of a creature would only partially work, even after a save/reload (which fixes the majority of the things that remained from the old creature) the creature's size would not change from the original creature unless it made a child>adult transition sometime after the change. I have no idea if that would still happen in DF2010 with how the size system changed. But that could be one possible hurdle to creature species change operations.
Anyway, it has to be tried :)
Post by: Toast024 on August 04, 2010, 11:51:36 am
Post by: Ratbert_CP on August 04, 2010, 12:04:37 pm
Today I was using your utility to kill cavern creatures who's high population were slowing the game down. And I thought "You know what would be great? A mass delete and a mass kill function!" It would allow us to delete entire species with a click of a button.
Urist McDoofus cancels reading Scroll of Genocide: Killed by Scroll of Genocide
Reclaim Fortress?
Post by: MaximumZero on August 04, 2010, 12:10:09 pm
Post by: vili on August 04, 2010, 12:24:10 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 04, 2010, 01:01:03 pm
Any news on the linux version?
Tbh, that's more of a DFHack question. I haven't checked the Linux support for a while, but last time I checked there were still a few things not working yet. It may have changed, not sure
Post by: sizeak on August 04, 2010, 02:16:03 pm
Today I was using your utility to kill cavern creatures who's high population were slowing the game down. And I thought "You know what would be great? A mass delete and a mass kill function!" It would allow us to delete entire species with a click of a button.
That's actually a fairly epic idea. Consider it a feature
Post by: drayath on August 04, 2010, 03:46:42 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 04, 2010, 03:58:43 pm
Post by: Toast024 on August 04, 2010, 04:14:01 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 04, 2010, 05:19:26 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 04, 2010, 05:27:17 pm
Post by: Toast024 on August 04, 2010, 05:29:15 pm
Does the genocide button delete creatures, or just makes them dead?
Post by: sizeak on August 04, 2010, 05:59:11 pm
Yay for the systematic extermination of species!
Does the genocide button delete creatures, or just makes them dead?
It just set's the "Dead" flag. People keep saying this makes them disappear from the units list in DF, but in my experience it doesn't, it just lists them as deceased. Meh
Nice. Got an update of what you're working on now?
Not yet, there's more I want to get done before the next release and I need to do some performance & stability testing on my main rig. Stuck working on my laptop for this week
Post by: devek on August 04, 2010, 06:36:19 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 05, 2010, 11:21:07 am
Post by: Dutchy on August 05, 2010, 12:33:15 pm
I had a goblin tied to a chain in a bad place, and to fix my mistake I tried killing it with runesmith (0.1.5 alpha). So i set the DEAD flag, and as a result, some of my dwarves are permanently interrupted by it (lying there unconscious and such, and not being carried away). I then tried to delete/vanish the goblin, but this didnt fix it...
Any chance I can unstuck my dwarves?
Post by: sizeak on August 05, 2010, 12:44:13 pm
The only thing I can think of is either save/reload which you probably already tried, or try teleporting the dead creature into a wall or somewhere they can't get to it? Maybe try zombie taming or something? Who knows.
Post by: Dutchy on August 05, 2010, 12:50:05 pm
Oh well, I suppose it was time to start a new fortress anyway. Thanks for the quick reply.
Post by: sizeak on August 05, 2010, 12:54:51 pm
Post by: Dutchy on August 05, 2010, 01:13:36 pm
Is it still gone if you go "View->Show Dead"Yes, I tried this, it's gone. I used both Vanish (cleanup) and Delete (cleanup) flags. I probably shouldn't have :)
Post by: sizeak on August 05, 2010, 01:24:17 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 05, 2010, 02:58:44 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 05, 2010, 03:01:43 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 05, 2010, 03:23:16 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 05, 2010, 03:32:12 pm
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 05, 2010, 05:18:41 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 05, 2010, 05:59:04 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 05, 2010, 06:03:32 pm
Post by: devek on August 06, 2010, 01:00:56 pm
Post by: drayath on August 06, 2010, 01:31:54 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 06, 2010, 02:12:19 pm
Anyone figure out how to cancel a mood or change the type? Just had a dwarf decide he wanted to go in a bone crafting mood, I would rather he a weapon or armor mood :(
Uncheck the "Has Mood" and "Had Mood" checkboxes under the "Flags" tab, and under the "Mood" tab, set it to "None".
Post by: devek on August 06, 2010, 02:19:48 pm
I waited until he actually claimed the workshop and it caused him to cancel the mood due to a lack of material, yay!
Post by: sizeak on August 06, 2010, 06:39:24 pm
Anyone figure out how to cancel a mood or change the type? Just had a dwarf decide he wanted to go in a bone crafting mood, I would rather he a weapon or armor mood :(
Uncheck the "Has Mood" and "Had Mood" checkboxes under the "Flags" tab, and under the "Mood" tab, set it to "None".
The has mood flag should be automatically unset when setting mood to none. On a side note, it's my birthday today(7th) :D
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 07, 2010, 12:21:16 am
Post by: sizeak on August 07, 2010, 05:57:35 am
Post by: MaximumZero on August 07, 2010, 10:05:16 am
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 07, 2010, 10:06:21 am
Happy birthday from the states, sizeak! Now, *cracks the whip* get back to work! I kid, I kid. I hope you have an enjoyable, relaxing day.
/jokes
Mush!
Post by: sizeak on August 07, 2010, 03:10:10 pm
Post by: devek on August 07, 2010, 03:13:37 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 07, 2010, 03:21:55 pm
Post by: devek on August 07, 2010, 03:27:16 pm
The real max is something like 16k or something then it flips to negative.. 15 bit integer? lol. I think I was drinking when I was toying with that. It might have been a dream or a fantasy as I can't tell the difference.
Post by: sizeak on August 07, 2010, 03:31:48 pm
Post by: devek on August 07, 2010, 03:44:54 pm
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_daUHwma1YLg/TF3FbXuiCdI/AAAAAAAAAGs/RXY1lW1CzpQ/s800/runesmith.png)
Thank god my laptop has 8 gigs of ram..
Post by: Darkwhite on August 07, 2010, 04:44:03 pm
Post by: devek on August 07, 2010, 05:25:34 pm
Just let him counsel someone once, and he will gain the skill and then you can max it out with runesmith.
Post by: sizeak on August 07, 2010, 06:58:14 pm
You can't with any of the available tools because it involves increasing the size of a vector.
Just let him counsel someone once, and he will gain the skill and then you can max it out with runesmith.
Bingo!
Not a HUGE deal, but there is/was a memory leak when you would attach/detach from DF.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_daUHwma1YLg/TF3FbXuiCdI/AAAAAAAAAGs/RXY1lW1CzpQ/s800/runesmith.png)
Thank god my laptop has 8 gigs of ram..
Hmm, didn't notice that, I'll have a look and see if I can find it. Not sure where it could be, as I make sure to delete all the creature's I new before I clear the vector or pointers... blarg. Won't be able to look at it till tomorrow evening as its 1am here and I have a 5 hour train journey tomorrow
Post by: devek on August 07, 2010, 07:13:24 pm
I had the same problem, but I didn't look too much into it.
Post by: Darkwhite on August 08, 2010, 02:57:07 am
You can't with any of the available tools because it involves increasing the size of a vector.I see. But how do I force a dwarf into counseling someone?
Just let him counsel someone once, and he will gain the skill and then you can max it out with runesmith.
Post by: MaximumZero on August 08, 2010, 08:26:59 am
Post by: Darkwhite on August 08, 2010, 08:51:26 am
As far as I know, mayor are elected by the number of friends they have, that means for example by their conversation skill. So maybe I could increase the conversation skill of some other dwarf prefering, prefering rocks and wood over some_minerals_I_don't_have, and have a happier mayor. That leads to the question how to raise the conversation skill of dwarf with only modest demands...
Post by: devek on August 08, 2010, 09:02:21 am
If his skill isn't increasing it is because he doesn't use it.
If he doesn't use it, what would increasing the skill level do? :D
Post by: MaximumZero on August 08, 2010, 09:17:35 am
Hope your right Master Jod... MaximumZero. But my mayor managed to increase his skill in seven years by zero points. He's only making stupid demands.
As far as I know, mayor are elected by the number of friends they have, that means for example by their conversation skill. So maybe I could increase the conversation skill of some other dwarf prefering, prefering rocks and wood over some_minerals_I_don't_have, and have a happier mayor. That leads to the question how to raise the conversation skill of dwarf with only modest demands...
Turn off all of his labors and let him hang out in a meeting hall. Instant conversation skills!
Post by: Darkwhite on August 08, 2010, 09:41:17 am
Well, consider this.:D *Laugh* great!
If his skill isn't increasing it is because he doesn't use it.
If he doesn't use it, what would increasing the skill level do? :D
But hey, maybe he isn't using that skill because nobody wants to talk to him as he's such an dumbass having absolutely no social aka conversational skills?
Post by: Valygard84 on August 08, 2010, 09:52:36 am
I managed to get RS running under Ubuntu Linux. Should work with most distributions though.
I hope I'm not to late. ;)
How to get Runesmith to work under Linux with wine:
What you need:
- Installed wine (the one supplied by the Ubuntu repository [1.1.42] is fine)
- Installed winetricks (should already be installed with wine)
- Newest version of Runesmith (extract anywhere you like)
Code: [Select]
winetricks vcrun2008Agree to the license agreement and click through the setup.This will install all the needed runtime libraries for you. :)
Now all you have to do is open Runesmith. Happy Smithing!
FAQ:
1. I don't have winetricks installed. How do I get it?
Open a terminal, change into the directory you would like to download the winetricks script file to (it's only a single file) and type
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wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks && chmod +x winetricks && ./winetricks vcrun2008This will do everything you need to get Runesmith running for you.If you get an error like "Can't write winetricks" or something about permissions, you need to change into a directory you own.
2. How do I open Runesmith?
Either double click Runesmith.exe or change into the directory you extracted RS into and use
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wine Runesmith.exeNote: I tried using winetricks vcrun6 before winetricks vcrun2008. Might be needed, too. If it indeed is needed, please tell me so I can add it to this here guide. :)
Post by: sizeak on August 08, 2010, 01:40:39 pm
Post by: Valygard84 on August 08, 2010, 05:12:49 pm
Should run without winetricks
Not here... didn't work untill I used winetricks. Always complained about a lack of some ms vc dlls.
Post by: sizeak on August 09, 2010, 03:27:44 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 10, 2010, 05:59:59 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 10, 2010, 07:16:14 pm
Keep up the good work, man. Can't wait to see what you have in store for us.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 11, 2010, 04:27:46 am
Keep up the good work.
Post by: sizeak on August 11, 2010, 04:51:59 am
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 11, 2010, 04:56:54 am
It's not really a secret, I just added the ability to add labours...
Well.
It's not very secret anymore, now is it?
Post by: sizeak on August 11, 2010, 05:31:29 am
Post by: necrodoom on August 11, 2010, 06:10:03 am
Unless I added more secret features... ?
like editing reactions? adding creatures? an ability to heal the wounded? planepacked style artifacts? changing elfs race name to hippies?
Post by: sizeak on August 11, 2010, 06:48:47 am
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 11, 2010, 08:14:12 am
On that note, you can change elves to hippies - although I haven't tried it myself, it looks like under "%dfroot%\raw\objects" there's a creatures_standard.txt with the relevant races such as dwarves, elves, 'umies, etc. which can be edited as necessary or desired :P
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Edit: I guess adding races and modifying reactions fall under the same "raw edit" theme, although wound healing and planepacked style artifacts would be more DFhack territory I'm sure.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 11, 2010, 08:29:31 am
Unless I added more secret features... ?
*gasp*
Hurry up and finish! You brought this upon yourself!
Post by: Rumrusher on August 11, 2010, 09:23:52 am
Post by: sizeak on August 11, 2010, 10:10:00 am
Post by: necrodoom on August 11, 2010, 10:18:24 am
Post by: MaximumZero on August 11, 2010, 02:46:11 pm
Edit: I reiterate: sizeak, you tease!
Post by: devek on August 11, 2010, 04:10:12 pm
I still hope it's the ability to edit values for likes/dislikes/preferred consumables and looks. Relationships would be great, too.
Ya, I always hate it when my girlfriend's dwarf ends up banging my friend's dwarf. That is a little bit too realistic. :P
Post by: MaximumZero on August 11, 2010, 09:23:49 pm
Post by: Neyvn on August 12, 2010, 02:41:49 am
I have a Spiral Ramp I need to go down a few Half Century Zs and its all in 5x5 blocks that make the shape...
Post by: JanusTwoface on August 12, 2010, 02:44:14 am
Was this the Tool that you can program a special shape to be designated so it can be mined, without you needing to actually Shape out the thing 50 time/z
I have a Spiral Ramp I need to go down a few Half Century Zs and its all in 5x5 blocks that make the shape...
No. You are looking for Quickfort (http://sun2design.com/quickfort/). (There might be others, but that's the one I've used.)
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 03:19:32 pm
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 13, 2010, 03:35:54 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 13, 2010, 03:39:24 pm
Write changes to the code? It's your schedule, man.
Post by: xtank5 on August 13, 2010, 03:40:51 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 03:41:34 pm
Anyway, I'm just looking into the memory leak Devek mentioned and debating whether to implement the csv/xml export in this release or later
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 03:44:53 pm
Patience is a virtue, so they say. I've never minded waiting a bit if I know why.
Also, what stats need exporting?
Post by: xtank5 on August 13, 2010, 03:46:45 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 03:53:41 pm
Post by: dree12 on August 13, 2010, 03:59:11 pm
I meant what info for a creature should I export, I mean I'm guessing people don't want all 60+ flags exporting, but then I could be wrongIt probably should be selectable, with 4 modes of export:
Complete - All[most] information DFHack reads
Important - All[most] information except flags that are of unknown effect
Dwarf - All information needed for fort mode (ie, no "diplomat" "invader", etc flags)
Barebones - Name, Creature Type, Skills+Attributes, Location, Personality/Traits
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 13, 2010, 04:29:09 pm
Patience is a virtue, so they say. I've never minded waiting a bit if I know why.
Also, what stats need exporting?
Well making it selectable would probably be best, but also a tad harder to implement. It's main use (for me at least) would be for community/succession games, since I seem to have developed issues with imagehosts lately. For specifically what I want it would probably be traits, appearance and likes/dislikes (although the latter two would need to be implemented into Runesmith themselves first >,< ) so I can put dwarves up . Manually typing and/or individually copy/pasting the traits of each dwarf for a 20+ dwarf immigration wave is... time consuming. And I've always hated any form of data capturing XD
That said, Dree12's suggestion seems pretty workable, but I've never actually fiddled with DFhack myself so... yeah.
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 04:38:33 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 04:40:11 pm
Patience is a virtue, so they say. I've never minded waiting a bit if I know why.
Also, what stats need exporting?
Well making it selectable would probably be best, but also a tad harder to implement. It's main use (for me at least) would be for community/succession games, since I seem to have developed issues with imagehosts lately. For specifically what I want it would probably be traits, appearance and likes/dislikes (although the latter two would need to be implemented into Runesmith themselves first >,< ) so I can put dwarves up . Manually typing and/or individually copy/pasting the traits of each dwarf for a 20+ dwarf immigration wave is... time consuming. And I've always hated any form of data capturing XD
That said, Dree12's suggestion seems pretty workable, but I've never actually fiddled with DFhack myself so... yeah.
And before they were implemented in Runesmith, they'd need implementing in DFHack :D How does check boxes sound for what to export? E.g. you go Tools->Export and up pops a form with a list of exportable items and you select which you want
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 13, 2010, 05:09:15 pm
Excellent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKUOB8MN4Kc&feature=related)
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 06:09:44 pm
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh228/sizeak/Runesmith/export.png)
Post by: xtank5 on August 13, 2010, 06:15:08 pm
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 13, 2010, 06:19:52 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 13, 2010, 06:25:14 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 13, 2010, 06:59:01 pm
That looks really good. Perhaps you should make a user option to set certain checkboxes (whatever they choose) as default?
Maybe, I'd have to implement some kind of config file first. Just to let people know, Petrix just spent some time fixing the memory leak in DFHack that Devek mentioned so that should be sorted in the next release. So a big thanks to him and everyone over to the DFHack thread to say thanks :D
Post by: devek on August 13, 2010, 08:26:15 pm
Post by: devek on August 13, 2010, 08:52:18 pm
Consider this.. some programs intentionally delay operations to give the user feedback that "something happened". Kind of like in bed.
If it happens too fast, it feels like it didn't happen. (Is that what she said?)
Kind of like vacuum cleaners... if they made one that was nearly silent no one would think it was sucking. (Is that what.. nvm)
Post by: Aklyon on August 14, 2010, 09:13:20 am
This is what I'm thinking atm. The ticked one's are ticked by default, not sure what else to have on by default, suggestions/opinions?If you're going to export the name, might as well export the english name as well.
Post by: sizeak on August 14, 2010, 05:29:16 pm
Post by: Aklyon on August 15, 2010, 10:22:46 am
Post by: sizeak on August 15, 2010, 02:07:56 pm
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 15, 2010, 05:12:55 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 16, 2010, 12:46:12 pm
Edit: In fact, if someone wants to make nice layout for them in Excel and post the .csv here or send it to me and I'll write it to it lays it out like that
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 16, 2010, 03:44:28 pm
Post by: devek on August 16, 2010, 03:59:21 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 16, 2010, 04:25:16 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 17, 2010, 07:44:29 am
Post by: Acanthus117 on August 17, 2010, 07:46:09 am
:'(
Post by: sizeak on August 17, 2010, 08:00:22 am
- Sorting
- Labour adding
- CSV export (possibly xml if I get time)
- The ability to perform Genocide on a race...
- Raw CivID displayed instead of checkbox
Think that's all for now
Post by: Acanthus117 on August 17, 2010, 08:02:45 am
This tool is awesomesauce, nonetheless.
Post by: Rumrusher on August 17, 2010, 01:22:19 pm
hypothetically speaking if we make 2 forts one for placement and building and the other for implanting.
during the second fort we dump either the mayor or the warlord(warlords seem to be easier for dumping) into the first civ which should revive that civ with non playable characters.
then one can safely try to dump every character into that civ and lead to a crumbled 2nd fort.
though the chances that the boundary of the for may be off but at least all those dwarfs aren't wandering the wilds.
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 12:16:43 pm
Post by: Blade_Train3r on August 19, 2010, 12:24:25 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 12:24:53 pm
I'm considering moving the raw happiness values from inside the element to an attribute, i.e:
<Happiness rawVal=60>Content</Happiness>
Edit: Here is the same thing in csv http://si.lorcode.com/downloads/Dwarves.csv
Post by: jetex1911 on August 19, 2010, 01:30:56 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 01:51:20 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 19, 2010, 02:48:51 pm
Wait. That came out wrong. Maybe.
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 02:55:10 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 19, 2010, 02:59:00 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 03:05:26 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 19, 2010, 03:07:16 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 03:11:36 pm
Edit: sample updated with column headers, currently you can only export all dwarves, will add support for selected dwarf before release
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 03:39:29 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 19, 2010, 03:59:11 pm
Indeed, I was joking with the BAH! not with the adding though, no, not that... never that...
Edit: sample updated with column headers, currently you can only export all dwarves, will add support for selected dwarf before release
I'm being extremely apologetic today. Don't know why.
Also: I can't see anyone needing to export a select handful of Dwarves. I'd just leave it at all of them.
Post by: DiGelu on August 19, 2010, 05:29:38 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 06:00:23 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 06:11:23 pm
Post by: devek on August 19, 2010, 07:09:34 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2010, 07:11:55 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on August 19, 2010, 07:52:14 pm
Since the caste changing doesn't work, I think a better description would be possibly gay hermaphrodite dwarves. I say possibly gay because I think it might be a grey area when it comes to hermaphrodites :Sso if we get a female dwarf swap to male save then would it transfer or will we get lesbians shooting spores into other lesbians and having Gay marriages?
Post by: coodudeman on August 19, 2010, 08:50:25 pm
Post by: Aklyon on August 19, 2010, 09:56:57 pm
Hey.. i tried to use this tool to revive dead dwarfs... they redied immediately... i have tried several times to coppy healthy dwarfs flags and such exactly.. but they bleed to death instantly on resume of the game... am i doing something wrong or is this tool not for reviving my dwarfs?Are you unchecking all the flags besides the healthy dwarf ones?
Post by: darkedone02 on August 19, 2010, 10:02:25 pm
Post by: Aklyon on August 19, 2010, 10:04:54 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on August 19, 2010, 10:45:32 pm
Hey.. i tried to use this tool to revive dead dwarfs... they redied immediately... i have tried several times to coppy healthy dwarfs flags and such exactly.. but they bleed to death instantly on resume of the game... am i doing something wrong or is this tool not for reviving my dwarfs?Are you unchecking all the flags besides the healthy dwarf ones?
Unfortunately, when a dwarf dies, you'll notice that they are usually missing a limb or large body part (I've seen mostly "Upper Body".) This is true even for cave ins and drowning. The lack of an upper body causes them to simply fall back over dead, even if you reset all of their flags. AFAIK, not a lot is known about the way health works yet.
Post by: MaximumZero on August 19, 2010, 10:47:19 pm
Since the caste changing doesn't work, I think a better description would be possibly gay hermaphrodite dwarves. I say possibly gay because I think it might be a grey area when it comes to hermaphrodites :Sso if we get a female dwarf swap to male save then would it transfer or will we get lesbians shooting spores into other lesbians and having Gay marriages?
The game changes all the tags to "Male" as far as relationships and visual effects go, but they are still treated reproductively as female. So, yes, you can have gay marriage, but no, there are no lesbian spores.
Post by: sizeak on August 20, 2010, 03:59:42 am
Post by: Still Standing on August 20, 2010, 09:29:41 am
Post by: sizeak on August 20, 2010, 09:45:24 am
Post by: MaximumZero on August 20, 2010, 12:48:40 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on August 20, 2010, 12:57:54 pm
It would be easier to have a "lock" feature for happiness, no?
And how would that be implemented, other than setting the happiness every so often?
Post by: MaximumZero on August 20, 2010, 01:29:51 pm
Post by: goge on August 20, 2010, 01:33:41 pm
tldr; Is the mood setting and editing in the next release?
Post by: sizeak on August 20, 2010, 01:44:16 pm
Post by: goge on August 20, 2010, 02:24:50 pm
I think I was able to change the skill of a mood from bone carver to gem setter. I'm not entirely sure if I did it in RS but I do have a diamond barrel now...
Post by: MaximumZero on August 20, 2010, 02:55:00 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 20, 2010, 03:39:40 pm
Post by: jaked122 on August 20, 2010, 03:55:20 pm
Guess what kids? The new release just went off for some pre-release testing :Dwhat does that mean today?
Post by: sizeak on August 20, 2010, 04:03:31 pm
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 21, 2010, 05:31:03 am
Whoopee!
Post by: Toast024 on August 21, 2010, 09:36:06 am
Post by: sizeak on August 22, 2010, 09:13:26 am
Enjoy, I hope there are no bugs. There shouldn't be as someone did a bit of testing for me over the last day or two. I won't mention who in case they don't want to be known, but that person can feel free to post if they like since they deserve some credit/praise to. I've included a short quick usage guide in this version, let me know what you think and post if you have any opinions on improving it. There are a lot of new features which are listed in the OP, so go read it!
And lastly I'd just like to thank the community for their continued interest and support! Thanks Guys!
Post by: devek on August 22, 2010, 09:25:58 am
Post by: LizardKing on August 22, 2010, 10:02:58 am
Edit: Tried changing the civ to my own one, but it didn't seem to do anything and in the status screen it still says they're a member of their original civ.
Edit edit: Never mind, it suddenly started behaving properly. Awesome.
Post by: MaximumZero on August 22, 2010, 09:24:21 pm
Post by: DiGelu on August 22, 2010, 10:27:50 pm
Post by: Greiger on August 22, 2010, 10:34:24 pm
Post by: xtank5 on August 23, 2010, 12:54:08 am
Right now it may be impossible. But there is hope somebody made a recent discovery that gets around that whole "his/her upper body is missing" deal.Source? Might we know where this is mentioned?
Post by: Rumrusher on August 23, 2010, 01:22:05 am
oh in other news I found out that releasing your self from cages might lead to you swapping bodies if you walk 2 embark tiles away from the cage was.
now once body swap you can travel into a different body using the "T"ravel button though be warn it randomly selects any creature on the map and if the said creature is a underground Troll then you might not be able to travel out so best explore this by traveling to towns. so far I don't think this will bring you back to your old adventurer, but now you could get one in fort mode with out need to retire in town!
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on August 23, 2010, 03:14:53 am
Post by: jaked122 on August 23, 2010, 01:10:58 pm
Post by: xtank5 on August 23, 2010, 09:13:44 pm
Spoiler: ScreenGrab (click to show/hide)
EDIT: Re-loaded, seems to have fixed itself.
EDIT2:Still Doing the same thing to a miner. Re-load doesn't do anything.
Post by: MaximumZero on August 23, 2010, 09:29:23 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 24, 2010, 04:51:48 am
Post by: sizeak on August 24, 2010, 04:52:19 am
That's really bizarre. I guess I need to test more thoroughly, then. :/
Don;t worry about it, it's been in every version
Post by: sizeak on August 24, 2010, 07:01:08 am
will this ever be open source? I Want to see the beautiful(or spaghetti) lines of code. of course I'll accept your answer.
Yay for triple posting, but I forgot this one, sorry. I'm not sure to be honest, the reason it's not currently is mainly a mixture of being worried about people thinking my code is crap (highly possible) and not wanting someone to basically be able to take all the hard work I've put in and make their own clone, which is also possible. I mean I don't make anything from this, I don't have a donations button or anything, the only thing in it for me is community goodwill and the praise of course. I'm not saying I want anything more or claiming that people are ungrateful or anything, I just don't see why someone should be able take all the work I've put in and claim it's their work without putting any work in. (Not that I'm saying that's what you personally would do, just to be clear, the internet can be too ambiguous sometimes)
You can be rest assured though that if I ever decide to stop developing it, it will definitely go open source and I'm not ruling it out before then, I'm just unsure right now :/
Post by: MaximumZero on August 24, 2010, 08:36:59 am
That's really bizarre. I guess I need to test more thoroughly, then. :/
Don;t worry about it, it's been in every version
Really? I've never seen that, and I've been here from the beginning. Weird.
Post by: sizeak on August 24, 2010, 08:52:44 am
Post by: kendo on August 24, 2010, 11:16:57 am
Post by: sizeak on August 24, 2010, 11:29:05 am
Post by: kendo on August 24, 2010, 11:29:58 am
Post by: MaximumZero on August 24, 2010, 06:44:43 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 24, 2010, 07:47:45 pm
Post by: theqmann on August 25, 2010, 10:08:49 pm
Post by: kwd1968 on August 28, 2010, 02:57:09 am
Post by: sizeak on August 28, 2010, 07:07:14 pm
A heal button maybe?
New damage system hasn't been figured out yet as far as I know sorry.
On an unrelated note, I'm going to be away for a week starting tomorrow so no fixes or anything. If there are any problems, then one of the thread regulars will be able to answer most questions I think.
Post by: blackmagechill on August 31, 2010, 06:11:57 pm
Post by: xtank5 on August 31, 2010, 06:38:19 pm
How do I place liquids?
Use DFHack (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=58809.0).
Post by: meowmix on September 01, 2010, 12:35:52 am
Post by: anotherthing on September 01, 2010, 07:09:52 pm
Post by: devek on September 01, 2010, 07:25:41 pm
Post by: meowmix on September 01, 2010, 09:29:16 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on September 01, 2010, 09:35:23 pm
would teleporting everything into lava cause the perpetual siege mode as well? cause i dont want to screw up another fortress, by killing stuff using runesmith if possible.
If you don't want to deal with invasions, why don't you just turn them off in the init? You can turn them back on later if you want them back...
(Don't get me wrong, that particular ability of Runesmith amuses me greatly, just curious)
Post by: nekoexmachina on September 01, 2010, 09:42:33 pm
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# Linux: to followHuh? Didn't understand this. Is there any linux version of runesmith available?
Post by: meowmix on September 01, 2010, 10:29:58 pm
would teleporting everything into lava cause the perpetual siege mode as well? cause i dont want to screw up another fortress, by killing stuff using runesmith if possible.
If you don't want to deal with invasions, why don't you just turn them off in the init? You can turn them back on later if you want them back...
(Don't get me wrong, that particular ability of Runesmith amuses me greatly, just curious)
its not that i dont want invasions its just that i want to be able to kill the goblins the way i want to , and killing the building destroyer ones outright with runesmith or teleporting them into lava is usually a lot easier than trying to design a complicated trap that only works when there are no building destroyer tagged monsters around.
so yea, before i try the teleport into lava way, does anyone know if tinkering with anything on an invader will cause the perpetual siege mode?
Post by: Still Standing on September 01, 2010, 10:42:29 pm
Post by: meowmix on September 01, 2010, 11:14:02 pm
If you only want to kill individuals, and want to do it in a Dwarfy way, why not spawn pools of Magma under the feet if the offenders with DFhack?
because doing this tend to create pathing issues... the last time i spawned magma i got permanent inaccessible spots that the dwarves cant build on or path through. actually spawning water with dwarf hack does this as well, so i dont do it anymore
Post by: devek on September 02, 2010, 01:16:23 am
because doing this tend to create pathing issues... the last time i spawned magma i got permanent inaccessible spots that the dwarves cant build on or path through. actually spawning water with dwarf hack does this as well, so i dont do it anymore
If water causes a pathing issue.. just spawn a single layer of water and when it evaporates the pathing issue will be fixed.
Post by: Rumrusher on September 02, 2010, 01:24:59 am
well from what I read if there no way a siege can run away perpetual siege mode is on. though I never play that far in dwarf fort to reach that to full around in so Idunno.would teleporting everything into lava cause the perpetual siege mode as well? cause i dont want to screw up another fortress, by killing stuff using runesmith if possible.
If you don't want to deal with invasions, why don't you just turn them off in the init? You can turn them back on later if you want them back...
(Don't get me wrong, that particular ability of Runesmith amuses me greatly, just curious)
its not that i dont want invasions its just that i want to be able to kill the goblins the way i want to , and killing the building destroyer ones outright with runesmith or teleporting them into lava is usually a lot easier than trying to design a complicated trap that only works when there are no building destroyer tagged monsters around.
so yea, before i try the teleport into lava way, does anyone know if tinkering with anything on an invader will cause the perpetual siege mode?
still dumping people in magma kinda the hard long and boring way when you could simply change the Civ to yours and remove the invader tags on one goblin archer then wait for them to retaliate and swap back they should go ape shit and start a loyalty crusade if you pull this off in the main gate of the fort you can pool in major carnage with out setting off a single trap or waking the guards. hopefully this should trigger the end siege code that some how bypass when you runesnuff.
Post by: Jaylow on September 05, 2010, 10:14:57 am
when i start it i get a error
saying:this application has failed to start because the applicationn configuration is incorrest. reinstalling the application may fix the problem
i had the same error for Stonesense but afther installing VC2005 redists it when away
i hoped for the same fix at Runesmith but no luck
is there anything els i need to install so it will work
i have a just fresh copy of win XP sp2 and did not instal anything els (but VC2005 redists, and the new LNP)
Post by: MaximumZero on September 05, 2010, 06:31:50 pm
Post by: Troas on September 06, 2010, 05:53:36 pm
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: Runesmith.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4c7120ae
Fault Module Name: MSVCR90.dll
Fault Module Version: 9.0.30729.4926
Fault Module Timestamp: 4a1743c1
Exception Offset: 0006c955
Exception Code: c0000417
Exception Data: 00000000
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: d1f6
Additional Information 2: d1f61fbf310b7a33ae9ba670291bf6e1
Additional Information 3: 9a98
Additional Information 4: 9a98394bea0db2e65a1f96ff57aca02e
In case it matters - I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.
Post by: sizeak on September 07, 2010, 04:45:17 am
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on September 07, 2010, 04:47:25 am
Post by: sizeak on September 07, 2010, 10:44:53 am
I was thinking earlier and I'd quite like to write an app that reached more of the community. The DF community is a niche and the functionality offered by Runesmith (*cough* cheating *cough*) is a niche within that niche and a niche within a niche is fairly small. I think it would be good to do an app that more people can use & enjoy, either that or make Runesmith more attractive for other purposes. Thoughts?
Post by: JanusTwoface on September 07, 2010, 12:04:26 pm
There were rumors that someone had already stepped up to take over the project, but I haven't managed to track down anything official.
Post by: devek on September 07, 2010, 01:13:30 pm
As long as memory.xml stays updated and it gets included in LNP, what difference does it really make?
Post by: MaximumZero on September 07, 2010, 01:16:34 pm
Post by: Woof on September 07, 2010, 01:29:04 pm
Damn goblins...
Post by: JanusTwoface on September 07, 2010, 03:05:03 pm
It isn't like therapist has outstanding bugs or features that need to be added.
Sure there are (http://code.google.com/p/dwarftherapist/issues/list). Some of the ones that would be most useful are correctly reading information from mods (such as custom positions and castes), pulling in all of the new attribute information from 0.31, and successfully porting to Linux/Mac.
As long as memory.xml stays updated and it gets included in LNP, what difference does it really make?
That's actually one of the biggest problems in DT in my opinion. It doesn't use DFHack, it has it's own memory definition files. So every time that the DF version updates, you have to find the offsets for both DFHack and for DT separately. Back towards the end of the 40d series there was a branch of DT that used DFHack, but when chmod came back with 0.31, the DFHack branch died out.
Really, it would be rather useful to change DT over to use DFHack so that when DF does any sort of changes to its internal memory scheme, you can automatically (or at least easily) update the programs that depend on it.
Post by: sizeak on September 07, 2010, 04:20:11 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on September 07, 2010, 04:27:51 pm
From what I understand, it didn't die out, it was forced out because he didn't like it
Could be. Although chmod has moved on, so it could be done more easily now.
DT is MIT Licensed (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php) in any case so creating a new DFHack branch is entirely legit.
Post by: devek on September 07, 2010, 04:59:48 pm
That's actually one of the biggest problems in DT in my opinion. It doesn't use DFHack, it has it's own memory definition files. So every time that the DF version updates, you have to find the offsets for both DFHack and for DT separately. Back towards the end of the 40d series there was a branch of DT that used DFHack, but when chmod came back with 0.31, the DFHack branch died out.
Well, it doesn't even have to use df hack to use memory.xml.
When df hack finishes its new memory file layout, I'll hack DT to use offsets from that file if no one else takes over by then.
Post by: JanusTwoface on September 07, 2010, 05:05:45 pm
That's actually one of the biggest problems in DT in my opinion. It doesn't use DFHack, it has it's own memory definition files. So every time that the DF version updates, you have to find the offsets for both DFHack and for DT separately. Back towards the end of the 40d series there was a branch of DT that used DFHack, but when chmod came back with 0.31, the DFHack branch died out.
Well, it doesn't even have to use df hack to use memory.xml.
When df hack finishes its new memory file layout, I'll hack DT to use offsets from that file if no one else takes over by then.
That would be nice. Or even a tool to read the memory offsets from Memory.xml (although the former would be preferable). I think the problem with doing that so far is something to do with how the offsets are calculated differently. Take that with a grain of salt though, I don't remember where I actually read that.
I was thinking earlier and I'd quite like to write an app that reached more of the community. The DF community is a niche and the functionality offered by Runesmith (*cough* cheating *cough*) is a niche within that niche and a niche within a niche is fairly small. I think it would be good to do an app that more people can use & enjoy, either that or make Runesmith more attractive for other purposes. Thoughts?
Back to the original thought, another interesting app that I'm sure that I'd use is something that could edit terrain in a manner as user friendly as Runesmith is for editing creatures with a full GUI. The DFHack apps that let you play with liquids or dig things are useful but leave something to be desired in interface.
Post by: MaximumZero on September 07, 2010, 05:09:43 pm
Post by: Acanthus117 on September 07, 2010, 05:09:57 pm
Post by: Troas on September 07, 2010, 08:37:22 pm
:S that's a new one. Well it will be a while until I can do anything, still assembling furniture.
Post by: Rumrusher on September 07, 2010, 11:34:17 pm
Post by: sizeak on September 08, 2010, 04:16:34 am
once I figure out save dumping I could give you the Cage trapped body swap save to help in cutting the middleman and get straight to the adventurer mind control abilities that would surely cause Horrors if one thinks to much about it.
Just save and the .7zip, .rar or .zip (in that order of preference) the save folder up and put it on rapidshare (free hosting for files under about 200MB) and post the link. To both of you actually
Post by: Jaylow on September 08, 2010, 12:48:54 pm
Have you tried a fresh Memory.xml? You can get that from the Stonesense and dfHack threads.
i just did and it did not work...
i wonder if i need something on my computer to suport the programe
like i needed VC2005 redists for Stonesense
Post by: sizeak on September 08, 2010, 01:20:55 pm
Post by: Troas on September 08, 2010, 09:32:25 pm
Post by: Jaylow on September 10, 2010, 05:01:26 pm
you need .net framework 3.5 or higher for this and VC2005 redists
or it will not work
Frame work 3.5 is also needed to use PerfectWorldDF
Post by: sizeak on September 10, 2010, 05:25:17 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on September 10, 2010, 07:53:12 pm
I wonder if the memory different from the normal adventure mode code.
Post by: Truean on September 15, 2010, 10:12:42 am
Is this by chance 31.13 compatible? If not, I understand seeing as that is a new release. Laters. :)
Post by: sizeak on September 15, 2010, 02:46:58 pm
Post by: Truean on September 15, 2010, 03:16:06 pm
Again, wonderful job, you cannot know how awesome being able to edit my Dwarf's stats is for me personally.
Post by: Gentle Manne on September 17, 2010, 10:05:13 pm
Post by: magistrate101 on September 18, 2010, 11:34:47 am
Post by: sizeak on September 18, 2010, 04:36:21 pm
Post by: Woof on September 18, 2010, 04:38:30 pm
I NEED this for 0.31.13, as i can hardly play without it (i get flooded with stone unless i set all of the mining skills to 5 ;) )
just dump all the stone on one tile until you get bored and then use it to build huge towers :)
Post by: magistrate101 on September 18, 2010, 04:49:11 pm
just dump all the stone on one tile until you get bored and then use it to build huge towers :)
how? I've only been playing this for 4-5 days ;)
Post by: Woof on September 18, 2010, 05:17:35 pm
just dump all the stone on one tile until you get bored and then use it to build huge towers :)
how? I've only been playing this for 4-5 days ;)
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Stone_management#Dump
basically designate a single tile as a garbage dump using 'i' and ... whatever key specifies it as a garbage dump, then whenever you have huge amounts of stone mark them for dumping with 'd', 'b', 'd' and your dwarfs will dump them on that one pile. every now and then reclaim the stone on the pile with 'd', 'b', 'c' and your dwarves will use them for construction or whatever - no messy stone, plenty of material for building and you keep your high level, fast digging miners! :)
Post by: magistrate101 on September 21, 2010, 12:37:37 am
basically designate a single tile as a garbage dump using 'i' and ... whatever key specifies it as a garbage dump, then whenever you have huge amounts of stone mark them for dumping with 'd', 'b', 'd' and your dwarfs will dump them on that one pile. every now and then reclaim the stone on the pile with 'd', 'b', 'c' and your dwarves will use them for construction or whatever - no messy stone, plenty of material for building and you keep your high level, fast digging miners! :)
THANK YOU! i've always wondered what to do with all of the damned stone i get from my strip mines :P
Post by: Fox the Undead on September 21, 2010, 04:40:07 am
Post by: sizeak on September 21, 2010, 04:58:31 am
Post by: magistrate101 on September 21, 2010, 09:17:17 pm
This is because DFHack has had changes made it since the last release, that and not all the offsets are present. I don't provide support for people updating themselves since usually it's more then just an offset update that is needed.
when do you think you will have mapped all of the new offsets? :-\
edit: Is this open source?
Post by: Smitehappy on September 26, 2010, 06:25:04 pm
Post by: sizeak on September 26, 2010, 06:37:56 pm
Post by: magistrate101 on September 27, 2010, 05:12:45 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on September 27, 2010, 05:15:01 pm
Post by: Aklyon on September 27, 2010, 05:15:39 pm
Post by: sizeak on September 27, 2010, 06:21:18 pm
I bet if this was open source, you would have people to help you make it, so updates would be faster :o
Maybe... but then... wait! IT'S NOT MY CODE THAT NEEDS UPDATING. FOR FUCK SAKE! HOW MANY TIMES DO I NEED TO SAY THAT WE'RE WAITING ON OFFSETS. FUCKING OFFFSETS!!!
OFFSETS!!!
OFFSETS!!
OFFSETS!!!
OFFSETS!!!
I have Runesmith running with the latest version of DFHack on my system, but it reports everything as dead and fey because not all the offsets are present. So again... OFFSETS!!!!
/End rant
Post by: Rumrusher on September 27, 2010, 09:04:52 pm
Post by: Roses on September 27, 2010, 09:38:58 pm
Post by: Slackratchet on September 28, 2010, 01:47:10 am
I bet if this was open source, you would have people to help you make it, so updates would be faster :o
Or maybe instead you could bug the developer enough that he would walk away from the project entirely.
Post by: sizeak on September 28, 2010, 04:27:05 am
That's always an option lol, though I think I probably over reactedI bet if this was open source, you would have people to help you make it, so updates would be faster :o
Or maybe instead you could bug the developer enough that he would walk away from the project entirely.
Post by: MaximumZero on September 28, 2010, 08:01:12 am
That's always an option lol, though I think I probably over reactedI bet if this was open source, you would have people to help you make it, so updates would be faster :o
Or maybe instead you could bug the developer enough that he would walk away from the project entirely.
You know, I probably did too, but still. *head asplode*
Post by: Truean on September 28, 2010, 02:11:48 pm
a.) something they don't have to pay for,
b.) something they don't have to work at.
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I bet if this was open source, you would have people to help you make it, so updates would be faster :o
You lose that bet, badly. Too many cooks throwing random, conflicting ingredients into a pot means the meal tastes like shit. Period.
____________________________
Bottom line:
This is a problem only the DF Hack people can fix.
Chill and be thankful someone else is taking their time to help you mod/cheat.
Do not rush that which cannot be rushed.
Post by: magistrate101 on September 28, 2010, 05:16:42 pm
Gonna go see if i can go get somebody at /b/ to contribute to DFHack (just need to tell them if they make it work i will give 'em a link showing a kid getting beat up with a baseball bat!)
Post by: JanusTwoface on September 28, 2010, 05:23:40 pm
QuoteI bet if this was open source, you would have people to help you make it, so updates would be faster :o
You lose that bet, badly. Too many cooks throwing random, conflicting ingredients into a pot means the meal tastes like shit. Period.
...
This is a problem only the DF Hack people can fix.
DFHack is open source. And most of the applications that you can use with DF are based on DFHack (with DT being a notable exception). So most of the programs you probably/possibly used are based off of open source software.
And then there are things like Firefox...
Open source works great for some things, especially volunteer projects. You just need someone that takes primary control of the project and filters through what is included precisely so you can avoid the 'too many cooks' issue.
The actual point though is that this is sizeak's project. If he wants it to be open source, it will be; otherwise, it won't. Sort of like Toady and DF itself...
Post by: magistrate101 on September 28, 2010, 05:31:53 pm
QuoteI bet if this was open source, you would have people to help you make it, so updates would be faster :o
You lose that bet, badly. Too many cooks throwing random, conflicting ingredients into a pot means the meal tastes like shit. Period.
...
This is a problem only the DF Hack people can fix.
DFHack is open source. And most of the applications that you can use with DF are based on DFHack (with DT being a notable exception). So most of the programs you probably/possibly used are based off of open source software.
And then there are things like Firefox...
Open source works great for some things, especially volunteer projects. You just need someone that takes primary control of the project and filters through what is included precisely so you can avoid the 'too many cooks' issue.
The actual point though is that this is sizeak's project. If he wants it to be open source, it will be; otherwise, it won't. Sort of like Toady and DF itself...
Amazing, a comment that doesn't flame me. Very good job with neutrality!
Post by: sizeak on September 28, 2010, 05:42:05 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on September 28, 2010, 05:46:08 pm
Post by: peterix on September 28, 2010, 08:38:11 pm
I pretty much know what to look for to get things like Maps and Materials working. Creatures are a different story and unlike most of dfhack, this part was largely extended and maintained by other people, who are now apparently busy with other things. So, I'll have to first find out what I'm looking for, document it and then I can actually search for it, replicating work already done by others. On top of that, the next semester started at my uni and I have /real/ stuff to do. Lots of math and stuff ~_~
So, give it some time... the .13 and .14 versions without goblin sieges are IMHO broken anyway.
Post by: Roses on September 28, 2010, 11:03:08 pm
Post by: Truean on September 29, 2010, 07:06:24 am
Quote
DFHack is open source. And most of the applications that you can use with DF are based on DFHack (with DT being a notable exception). So most of the programs you probably/possibly used are based off of open source software.
And then there are things like Firefox...
Open source works great for some things, especially volunteer projects. You just need someone that takes primary control of the project and filters through what is included precisely so you can avoid the 'too many cooks' issue.
The actual point though is that this is sizeak's project. If he wants it to be open source, it will be; otherwise, it won't. Sort of like Toady and DF itself...
Good points. I know open source works for SOME things. A.) It wouldn't here. B.) It is not the magic solution for wanting things right this second. That would be patience.
Post by: sizeak on September 29, 2010, 07:55:31 am
Post by: magistrate101 on September 29, 2010, 03:53:38 pm
Open source would work fine for Runesmith, I just don't want people seeing my bad code :D
bad code?! you made it so we could wipe an entire goblin siege of the map by pausing, selecting a goblin, and hitting genocide!!! THAT IS GOOD CODE!
(sorry for the yellin'!)
Post by: sizeak on September 29, 2010, 04:12:48 pm
Open source would work fine for Runesmith, I just don't want people seeing my bad code :D
bad code?! you made it so we could wipe an entire goblin siege of the map by pausing, selecting a goblin, and hitting genocide!!! THAT IS GOOD CODE!
(sorry for the yellin'!)
From a functionality point of view you would be correct, however I'm not so sure about from a design point of view... anyway, I've said before that the possibility of making it open source exists, it just depends on how much time I have and motivation etc. As it stands I haven;t actually played any DF for a few months, due to lack of time, minor Minecraft addiction and also having a shed load of other games to complete + coding projects
Post by: Truean on September 29, 2010, 05:01:44 pm
Quote
Open source would work fine for Runesmith, I just don't want people seeing my bad code :D
Open source would somehow give you the DF Hack updates you require to release a new update of Runesmith? :P
Open source Runesmith might work as a production plan.
Open source Runesmith will not give you the files you and DFHACK need to release a new updates sooner.
Post by: sizeak on September 29, 2010, 05:03:05 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on September 30, 2010, 05:40:02 am
so far between: removing the stat, attribute, and traits hurdles for instant recruitment and body swapping from caging your self and removing the cage flag and the usual loyalty crusade by slapping a civ member a zombie flag and removing it once they start hitting him.
Post by: magistrate101 on October 01, 2010, 06:28:00 pm
minor Minecraft addiction
I am pretty sure minor is too umm, much of an understatement of the power of minecraft.....
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Darkdwarf14 on October 03, 2010, 01:49:11 pm
Post by: Magnnus on October 03, 2010, 03:01:26 pm
Hey guys I'm new to all this and just tried out runesmith but i keep getting an error saying couldn't find a suitable process. I have dwarf fortress running in fortress mode but still nothing. Can anybody help?
Runesmith is not currently compatible with the latest version of Dwarf Fortress; you will have to wait for an update before Runesmith can be used with the latest version.
Post by: Darkdwarf14 on October 03, 2010, 05:28:40 pm
Post by: Darquan on October 08, 2010, 07:43:24 am
Post by: sizeak on October 08, 2010, 07:44:07 am
Post by: NKDietrich on October 08, 2010, 09:54:03 am
Again, DFHack offsets
DFHack works with .16, at least some of the tools. I take it there are additional offsets that you need?
Post by: sizeak on October 08, 2010, 09:54:54 am
Post by: JockthePilot on October 08, 2010, 12:06:39 pm
Post by: sizeak on October 08, 2010, 12:09:09 pm
shouldn't dwarf therapist have those? or does the programmer of therapist not share those offsets
We need far more offsets than DT
Post by: Darquan on October 08, 2010, 12:30:04 pm
Post by: sizeak on October 08, 2010, 07:54:06 pm
Hmm... any way to help you find those offsets?
I'm not actively finding them, DFHack thread is the best place to ask about offsets
Post by: magistrate101 on October 08, 2010, 10:22:57 pm
Hmm... any way to help you find those offsets?
I'm not actively finding them, DFHack thread is the best place to ask about offsets
If you're not actively finding them, why have this? you need to work on this, or let others help...
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 08, 2010, 11:35:53 pm
But at the same time nothing works until DFHack does. It would be helpful if we had a few more people working on the DFHack project that were good at tracking down these addresses.
So far as letting others help, nothing's stopping you. If you can find the offsets, add them to the memory.xml file and post it. I'm sure there are plenty of people that'll thank you! :)
Post by: NKDietrich on October 08, 2010, 11:39:46 pm
I just don't want to reinvent the wheel by diving into it myself without knowing anything.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on October 08, 2010, 11:46:18 pm
Post by: peterix on October 09, 2010, 04:17:25 am
I'd also be happy to at least try and help find some of the offsets, although I have no idea where to start.Actually it's more like where to finish now. I should have the offsets in the next dfhack version, but that could take a week or so -- depends on how much time I have for this.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on October 09, 2010, 04:42:19 am
Post by: magistrate101 on October 09, 2010, 04:14:26 pm
Because Runesmith is based on DFHack, like most of the other DF helper apps are right now. DFHack made it so that you could update one set of offsets rather than one for each program, and meant that people could write such apps without worrying at all about memory hacking...
But at the same time nothing works until DFHack does. It would be helpful if we had a few more people working on the DFHack project that were good at tracking down these addresses.
So far as letting others help, nothing's stopping you. If you can find the offsets, add them to the memory.xml file and post it. I'm sure there are plenty of people that'll thank you! :)
Exactly! Why does he not try to advance DFhack so his own program benefits as well?
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on October 09, 2010, 08:41:24 pm
Post by: sizeak on October 09, 2010, 09:26:33 pm
Because Runesmith is based on DFHack, like most of the other DF helper apps are right now. DFHack made it so that you could update one set of offsets rather than one for each program, and meant that people could write such apps without worrying at all about memory hacking...
But at the same time nothing works until DFHack does. It would be helpful if we had a few more people working on the DFHack project that were good at tracking down these addresses.
So far as letting others help, nothing's stopping you. If you can find the offsets, add them to the memory.xml file and post it. I'm sure there are plenty of people that'll thank you! :)
Exactly! Why does he not try to advance DFhack so his own program benefits as well?
Maybe because I have better things to do. You want it that bad, then find the offsets yourself. I wrote this app for me because I wanted to. You get to use it because I let you, it's not your right or something so stop acting like it is.
Post by: Knossos on October 10, 2010, 05:28:02 am
I hope all this demanding and bitching doesn't deflect you from wanting to work on Runesmith at all. I appreciate all the work you have put into it :)
Post by: sizeak on October 10, 2010, 07:00:23 am
What a bunch of ungrateful douches.
I hope all this demanding and bitching doesn't deflect you from wanting to work on Runesmith at all. I appreciate all the work you have put into it :)
Thank you. All that should bee needed for it to work with the newest DF is the offsets that Peterix said would be ready in about a week
Post by: Deon on October 11, 2010, 09:13:40 am
P.S. I can't wait to get the updated version for a few reasons, so I hope you guys will have some time and willingness for it :).
Post by: sizeak on October 11, 2010, 02:32:29 pm
Post by: Thoranius on October 11, 2010, 06:58:01 pm
:o
Kill the
On a side note, keep up the great work, sizeak and peterix! Don't let the slavedrivers and ungrateful, impatient players get to you. :D
Post by: sizeak on October 11, 2010, 07:48:24 pm
Post by: Deon on October 12, 2010, 12:17:37 am
And I often go to bed too late before a work too... Nothing that a good sleep during a week-end can't fix.
Post by: Rumrusher on October 12, 2010, 08:24:49 am
If so then Sorry I'm having a 'inventor' block on finding many things one can do in Runesmith.
Post by: MaximumZero on October 12, 2010, 10:43:21 am
Post by: Miko19 on October 14, 2010, 05:26:31 am
Post by: sizeak on October 14, 2010, 06:38:57 am
Post by: Mortiss on October 14, 2010, 12:00:24 pm
Basically, I have tried to reduce the number of invading creatures by using "Delete Creature" flag in the Runesmith. Now I am stuck with the endless Siege, so no caravans and no migrants. Is there a way to get rid of it?
(Other people had posted about this in this thread but I believe in the end there were no concrete answers).
Post by: sizeak on October 14, 2010, 01:17:48 pm
Post by: Xirr on October 14, 2010, 03:03:34 pm
Endless Siege. 31.12
Basically, I have tried to reduce the number of invading creatures by using "Delete Creature" flag in the Runesmith. Now I am stuck with the endless Siege, so no caravans and no migrants. Is there a way to get rid of it?
(Other people had posted about this in this thread but I believe in the end there were no concrete answers).
(1) The best cure is prevention. People have invested good time and good advice into this guide, I suggest you utilize it (don't get me wrong, I do not use Runesmith but believe it is a great tool to be utilized as a de-bugging/quick fix). http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Defense
(2) You will probably have to go down the entire list in the Flags tab for all creatures that can be part of a Siege (Humans, slavers, Goblins, Ogres, Trolls, etc) and remove the flags for "In Ambush", "Active Invader", etc. Because Sieges are coded to have the invaders retreat/siege be broken, and last time I checked (which was...years ago), at least one Invader had to retreat to turn off the Siege mode--usually in vanilla DF, that is not a problem because Sieges are usually 50+ individuals and they come in waves.
(3) Not sure if this would work or not, but in theory it should: Actively "vanish" all corpses (and make sure you write changes after each vanish because this can cause DF instability).
However, if the corpses are not there--you have invaders who did not "leave" the siege and were not included on the map (i.e., one of those wave groups that comes in after the initial announcement) and have the "retreating" flag enabled--thus giving you an endless siege. Unfortunately, the only cure for that is abandonment because the problem is with the world.sav, not your fort, but then just re-claim, no biggy (unless your Fort is 100 years old and has items everywhere..then be prepared for 5 years of clean-up)
Hope some of this helps.
-Cheers
Post by: sizeak on October 14, 2010, 03:10:20 pm
Post by: BodyGripper on October 14, 2010, 03:33:20 pm
I never heard of cleartask, but it sounds like something I should check out!
Post by: Thoranius on October 15, 2010, 02:27:31 am
Post by: sizeak on October 15, 2010, 10:37:55 am
Post by: sizeak on October 15, 2010, 01:30:37 pm
Post by: neo1096 on October 15, 2010, 01:45:15 pm
Post by: sizeak on October 15, 2010, 01:53:38 pm
Yay!! Thank you sizeak. I wanted to wait to post until after all the bitching by the ingrates was done, so my comment wouldn't get lost in it.
Ahahaha thanks! Most of the thanks should go to Peterix for finding the needed offsets, sadly I'm not very good at it and even less inclined. Download link updated, only tested quickly but it should all work.
Post by: sizeak on October 15, 2010, 01:54:19 pm
Post by: YouR_DooM on October 15, 2010, 02:00:21 pm
*download*
Post by: sizeak on October 15, 2010, 02:00:48 pm
Edit: Seems fine, must have just been a bad download
Post by: Gearheart on October 15, 2010, 02:13:07 pm
Post by: Slackratchet on October 15, 2010, 03:29:43 pm
Post by: Calhoun on October 15, 2010, 03:37:50 pm
Post by: Silentstar on October 15, 2010, 04:38:13 pm
what software is required in order to use runesmith, i read somewhere in the thread that it's based on Qt, i didn't know what that was, so i looked it up, the page for Qt is pretty developer-centric so i wasn't able to see what if anything i needed to install as an end user. Also, i read somewhere that dfhack.dll and memory.xml need to be replaced. I'm assuming that's in the dfhack folder. But does memory.xml get replaced by memory-ng.xml,(form the Runesmith folder) or do i need to rename that. Do all the files that come in the zip need to be put in the dfhack directory? If all this is answered somewhere in this thread, i haven't found it yet, and i feel like this is stuff that should maybe be included in the first post. </ask nicely>
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on October 15, 2010, 05:58:42 pm
Post by: Falc on October 15, 2010, 06:10:45 pm
Post by: Boes on October 15, 2010, 06:17:36 pm
I am thinking that it is a version conflict with the versions of these 2 files and what you had used when it was complied. Any advise would be appreciated.
Post by: YouR_DooM on October 15, 2010, 06:47:39 pm
Post by: SnoopBob on October 15, 2010, 07:31:35 pm
I'm trying to get this tool working for the first time. However i'm running into some problems. I kept getting an error that i'm missing a dll (msvcp100 i think), so i tracked that down and installed it, then i got another error for another dll. I decided to not try and track down dlls one by one so i started reading this thread, however i'm finding the information is kind of dispersed throughout and i thought i would just ask.
what software is required in order to use runesmith, i read somewhere in the thread that it's based on Qt, i didn't know what that was, so i looked it up, the page for Qt is pretty developer-centric so i wasn't able to see what if anything i needed to install as an end user. Also, i read somewhere that dfhack.dll and memory.xml need to be replaced. I'm assuming that's in the dfhack folder. But does memory.xml get replaced by memory-ng.xml,(form the Runesmith folder) or do i need to rename that. Do all the files that come in the zip need to be put in the dfhack directory? If all this is answered somewhere in this thread, i haven't found it yet, and i feel like this is stuff that should maybe be included in the first post. </ask nicely>
I have run across the same error that silentstar was posting about. the program was missing msvcr100.dll and msvcp100.dll, I downloaded them and installed them. I tried to run the program again and I am getting this error. "The procedure entry point _invalid_parameter_noinfo_noreturn could not be located in the dynamic link library MSVCR100.dll."
I am thinking that it is a version conflict with the versions of these 2 files and what you had used when it was complied. Any advise would be appreciated.
Had the same problem, solved it by copying the Runesmith files into the Dwarf Fort folder.
Post by: sizeak on October 15, 2010, 08:00:01 pm
Edit: Added them.
Post by: Morwaul on October 15, 2010, 08:18:45 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on October 15, 2010, 08:19:39 pm
Just wanted to say Thank You Sizeak. Didn't realize how much I needed this tool until I didn't have it.
I second that.
Post by: Knossos on October 16, 2010, 02:19:28 am
Have you ever considered paypal donations?
Post by: Boes on October 16, 2010, 06:40:19 am
ARG sorry about this, I switched to VS 2010 and I guess it's linked in some dll's I didn't realise. Will add them to download archive.
Edit: Added them.
Thanks, for some reason it would not work on my machine with those 2 files, but once i had version numbers to compare to, it was easy enough to get the vs 2010 redist package and install that. I've uploaded the redist package to dffd so if anybody else has the problem they can get it and install it with less time spent searching microsoft's site.
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3279 (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3279)
Thanks for all your hard work on this program.
/edit
If you end up getting an error about one of the dlls not being a valid windows application, then this file is what you need to install and then delete msvcr100.dll and msvcp100.dll in the runesmith folder. After that it should work fine.
Post by: Troas on October 16, 2010, 10:58:52 am
Post by: Thoranius on October 16, 2010, 11:10:10 am
All hail sizeak and peterix!
*Bows prostrate on the ground over and over and over again, then hurries off to perform a
;D
Post by: sizeak on October 16, 2010, 11:11:32 am
Post by: Silentstar on October 16, 2010, 12:29:58 pm
Thanks sizeak for the awesome utility and for being so responsive to your many fans
and thanks Boes for the legwork you did on the redist issue
Post by: krisslanza on October 16, 2010, 12:51:15 pm
Post by: BodyGripper on October 16, 2010, 02:13:52 pm
Post by: sizeak on October 16, 2010, 04:56:12 pm
Was there some way to only edit a specific Dorf? I tried clicking, double clicking, right-clicking dorfs and it seems all I could do is just make changes apply to EVERY Dorf. I don't want that. It's a bit too much.
Yeah you double click on the value you want to edit, i.e. happiness
Post by: Victuz on October 19, 2010, 10:23:20 am
He's currently running around naked with a steel spear he stole from my militia commander... oh he killed someone. oh and another one, dang he's good.
Post by: Nabobalis on October 19, 2010, 11:17:17 am
Maybe damage it in someway and it dies real soon?
Post by: peterix on October 19, 2010, 11:32:32 am
Anyway to kill a creature without it disappearing?Not really, no. We could do it in 40d by making the creature bleed... not so simple with 31.xx I'm afraid.
Maybe damage it in someway and it dies real soon?
Hot damn I downloaded this because I wanted to change a possessed mood of my weaponsmith into a fey mood and he was not happy about it./fun/ for everyone involved I'm sure :P
sizeak: would having the job offsets help here?
Post by: Aarik on October 19, 2010, 01:41:21 pm
Is it possible to heal injuries with this?
I've been working on the current fight's for a few hours now and my dudes are real busted up with red breaks, I really don't want to have to abort and restart at this point.
Post by: Rumrusher on October 19, 2010, 05:35:48 pm
I'm testing this in the arena ATM.Sadly he didn't update this version with any thing new. Just ported it for those on the new version of dwarf fortress. But you can buff the person recuperation/toughness and wait it out.
Is it possible to heal injuries with this?
I've been working on the current fight's for a few hours now and my dudes are real busted up with red breaks, I really don't want to have to abort and restart at this point.
Post by: Aarik on October 19, 2010, 06:06:18 pm
Seriously?
Also, is Recuperation better higher or lower?
Post by: Rumrusher on October 19, 2010, 06:31:03 pm
Red injuries heal in Arena mode?higher,
Seriously?
Also, is Recuperation better higher or lower?
though it's only faster when you Travel and there no where to go in arena mode. Though if you could, see if one can order commands in arena mode by using the adding labors and quick fort utility or something that will auto designate construction/mining while bypassing the need of going through the fort mode menu. If so then I think we can order towns men to construct towers in adventure mode.
Post by: sizeak on October 19, 2010, 07:01:29 pm
Anyway to kill a creature without it disappearing?Not really, no. We could do it in 40d by making the creature bleed... not so simple with 31.xx I'm afraid.
Maybe damage it in someway and it dies real soon?Hot damn I downloaded this because I wanted to change a possessed mood of my weaponsmith into a fey mood and he was not happy about it./fun/ for everyone involved I'm sure :P
sizeak: would having the job offsets help here?
The job offsets would only be used for changing the mood materials I believe (though this is off the top of my head). Just changing the mood should only need a correct mood offset. Could it be wrong?
Post by: JockthePilot on October 20, 2010, 09:40:59 am
Post by: JockthePilot on October 20, 2010, 09:54:36 am
Post by: TKTom on October 22, 2010, 12:36:11 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
That's not right, surely?
Post by: sizeak on October 22, 2010, 01:13:33 pm
Post by: Killing Time on October 23, 2010, 02:26:46 am
Post by: Drakeero on October 23, 2010, 10:49:13 am
Given my massive use of quantum stockpiles I don't want dead vermin carcasses piling up everywhere.
What flag should I inflict to kill it without somehow crashing or ruining my megaproject? "Circulatory spray"? Or just "dead"?
Post by: magistrate101 on October 23, 2010, 02:09:01 pm
Quote
Now 0.31.16 Compatible!
edit:
A cat just wandered into my fortress with a migrant.
Given my massive use of quantum stockpiles I don't want dead vermin carcasses piling up everywhere.
What flag should I inflict to kill it without somehow crashing or ruining my megaproject? "Circulatory spray"? Or just "dead"?
I think you should bring it to a cage OUTSIDE the megaproject, THEN inflict the dead tag.
Post by: HermitDwarf on November 05, 2010, 01:51:23 pm
Post by: sizeak on November 05, 2010, 02:58:46 pm
How do I use Runesmith to remove a creature from the game? I have some bears and wolves and stuff at location 0,0,0 that I assume are glitched or something and would like to get rid of them.
Set the "Dead" flag on them from the flags tab
Post by: mgrinshpon on November 11, 2010, 10:54:49 pm
Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!
Post by: Rumrusher on November 12, 2010, 08:23:27 am
A lot of this thread has complaining, so I'm gonna just go ahead and say this:same here I wouldn't have gotten the first adventurer child born without Runesmith.
Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!
sadly with .17 out I sense tons of members wanting this to be updated,
and by jovi this might take a couple of pages.
Post by: sizeak on November 12, 2010, 08:37:21 am
A lot of this thread has complaining, so I'm gonna just go ahead and say this:same here I wouldn't have gotten the first adventurer child born without Runesmith.
Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!
sadly with .17 out I sense tons of members wanting this to be updated,
and by jovi this might take a couple of pages.
Whaaaaaaat .17 WTF!!!!!!!!!!! :(
also, thanks mgrinshpon
Post by: Kobold Troubadour on November 12, 2010, 08:45:07 am
Patience is indeed a virtue my evil little body swapping, baby snatching Necromancer....Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!same here I wouldn't have gotten the first adventurer child born without Runesmith.
sadly with .17 out I sense tons of members wanting this to be updated,
and by jovi this might take a couple of pages.
Thank you for this little program and do take your time.
Post by: Rumrusher on November 12, 2010, 11:56:57 am
baby snatching? I never got the chance to snatch babies from families due to the baby/noble/child profession keeps them from joining.Patience is indeed a virtue my evil little body swapping, baby snatching Necromancer....Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!same here I wouldn't have gotten the first adventurer child born without Runesmith.
sadly with .17 out I sense tons of members wanting this to be updated,
and by jovi this might take a couple of pages.
Thank you for this little program and do take your time.
though sensing the lack of patience coming with the recent ADV. update and the huge uproar version '.16' had.... didn't see why though.
to be honest I'm shock .10 regions work in .17 I'm appalled that the need to walk out of mountain homes/FORTS/LAIRS (above ground) before you can fast Travel SUCKS DWARVEN BEARDS.
ps. Sizeak oh take your time please don't take what I say as a means of rushing.
Pss. body snatching, baby making, got a whole lot harder now with the lack of fast travel into Civ cities hovels yes cities no.
Post by: sizeak on November 12, 2010, 12:01:59 pm
Post by: Miko19 on November 12, 2010, 12:39:55 pm
How can you make or snatch babies anyway? I WANT TO KNOW THE SECRET WAYS OF RUNESMITH GODDAMNIT!baby snatching? I never got the chance to snatch babies from families due to the baby/noble/child profession keeps them from joining.Patience is indeed a virtue my evil little body swapping, baby snatching Necromancer....Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!same here I wouldn't have gotten the first adventurer child born without Runesmith.
sadly with .17 out I sense tons of members wanting this to be updated,
and by jovi this might take a couple of pages.
Thank you for this little program and do take your time.
though sensing the lack of patience coming with the recent ADV. update and the huge uproar version '.16' had.... didn't see why though.
to be honest I'm shock .10 regions work in .17 I'm appalled that the need to walk out of mountain homes/FORTS/LAIRS (above ground) before you can fast Travel SUCKS DWARVEN BEARDS.
ps. Sizeak oh take your time please don't take what I say as a means of rushing.
Pss. body snatching, baby making, got a whole lot harder now with the lack of fast travel into Civ cities hovels yes cities no.
Post by: Rumrusher on November 12, 2010, 01:50:51 pm
making is in my sig "adventure in baby making"(which is from now a stupidly hard task now with the annoying 6 minute hike out of the town first), snatching can be only done if sizeak or Darius or any one with a good DFhack skill add the ability to over ride characters saying no to you in adventure mode. I found out back in 40d with darius friendship enhancer that s'T'eal has a side affect of removing a profession on the stolen creature from being force to become a Miner. This allows me back then to use that to bypass the child/baby restrictions and recruit them (only way to not wait seven to 8 years for the bugger to grow up). so yea being a child is a profession. Carrying them on the other hand might be on the caged dwarf = carry dwarf and manipulating that a dozy. I started with attempts of snatching companions and folks before accidentally finding out on Body Swapping.How can you make or snatch babies anyway? I WANT TO KNOW THE SECRET WAYS OF RUNESMITH GODDAMNIT!baby snatching? I never got the chance to snatch babies from families due to the baby/noble/child profession keeps them from joining.Patience is indeed a virtue my evil little body swapping, baby snatching Necromancer....Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!same here I wouldn't have gotten the first adventurer child born without Runesmith.
sadly with .17 out I sense tons of members wanting this to be updated,
and by jovi this might take a couple of pages.
Thank you for this little program and do take your time.
though sensing the lack of patience coming with the recent ADV. update and the huge uproar version '.16' had.... didn't see why though.
to be honest I'm shock .10 regions work in .17 I'm appalled that the need to walk out of mountain homes/FORTS/LAIRS (above ground) before you can fast Travel SUCKS DWARVEN BEARDS.
ps. Sizeak oh take your time please don't take what I say as a means of rushing.
Pss. body snatching, baby making, got a whole lot harder now with the lack of fast travel into Civ cities hovels yes cities no.
though now I wonder Sizeak any luck with the Body swap save file I gave you?
Post by: sizeak on November 12, 2010, 06:04:59 pm
making is in my sig "adventure in baby making"(which is from now a stupidly hard task now with the annoying 6 minute hike out of the town first), snatching can be only done if sizeak or Darius or any one with a good DFhack skill add the ability to over ride characters saying no to you in adventure mode. I found out back in 40d with darius friendship enhancer that s'T'eal has a side affect of removing a profession on the stolen creature from being force to become a Miner. This allows me back then to use that to bypass the child/baby restrictions and recruit them (only way to not wait seven to 8 years for the bugger to grow up). so yea being a child is a profession. Carrying them on the other hand might be on the caged dwarf = carry dwarf and manipulating that a dozy. I started with attempts of snatching companions and folks before accidentally finding out on Body Swapping.How can you make or snatch babies anyway? I WANT TO KNOW THE SECRET WAYS OF RUNESMITH GODDAMNIT!baby snatching? I never got the chance to snatch babies from families due to the baby/noble/child profession keeps them from joining.Patience is indeed a virtue my evil little body swapping, baby snatching Necromancer....Thank you. Thanks for spending your free time making a very useful utility for DF! I appreciate it tremendously!same here I wouldn't have gotten the first adventurer child born without Runesmith.
sadly with .17 out I sense tons of members wanting this to be updated,
and by jovi this might take a couple of pages.
Thank you for this little program and do take your time.
though sensing the lack of patience coming with the recent ADV. update and the huge uproar version '.16' had.... didn't see why though.
to be honest I'm shock .10 regions work in .17 I'm appalled that the need to walk out of mountain homes/FORTS/LAIRS (above ground) before you can fast Travel SUCKS DWARVEN BEARDS.
ps. Sizeak oh take your time please don't take what I say as a means of rushing.
Pss. body snatching, baby making, got a whole lot harder now with the lack of fast travel into Civ cities hovels yes cities no.
though now I wonder Sizeak any luck with the Body swap save file I gave you?
To be honest I totally forgot. If child is just a profession I could try making it changeable, not sure if it would crash DF or not
Post by: Fayrik on November 12, 2010, 06:58:02 pm
To be honest I totally forgot. If child is just a profession I could try making it changeable, not sure if it would crash DF or notPerhaps try modifying Size and Age at the same time, so you can change someone's age, and if they go below their creature's child raw, then it swapps their proffession too?
Post by: Rumrusher on November 13, 2010, 04:38:45 am
well that works for children over the age of 2 but when dealing with babies you can't remove the age requirements and expect them to class as a working peasant, having a Profession changer also removes the horror of having to deal with Nobles which can only be removed if they end up pissing off their civ. Which in a form of hard knocks means I can't recruit same civ nobles with out having him going Resident evil 4 with the whole town.To be honest I totally forgot. If child is just a profession I could try making it changeable, not sure if it would crash DF or notPerhaps try modifying Size and Age at the same time, so you can change someone's age, and if they go below their creature's child raw, then it swapps their proffession too?
Post by: darkedone02 on November 13, 2010, 06:53:13 pm
Post by: sizeak on November 13, 2010, 07:22:41 pm
waiting for the update.
As far as I know there aren't any DFHack offsets yet
Post by: darkedone02 on November 13, 2010, 11:41:29 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on November 14, 2010, 04:13:03 am
I know that, as you rely on that to update the software. I'm just waiting for the update so that I can try out the new version (I can't play Dwarf Fortress without this).if it helps try the new version of Dffusion he has a adventurer swapper which makes giving items to companions not a dream. Oh that and hopefully I could see if this works on wild animals.
Post by: magistrate101 on November 14, 2010, 09:43:29 am
waiting for the update.
As far as I know there aren't any DFHack offsets yet
DFusion seems to be able to auto-update its offsets... maybe try to implement that into your program? :D Then ya'd never have to worry about DFgack having to update.
Post by: Rumrusher on November 14, 2010, 12:54:33 pm
unless said new version of DF bypass the auto-update leading to a update for that auto-update.waiting for the update.
As far as I know there aren't any DFHack offsets yet
DFusion seems to be able to auto-update its offsets... maybe try to implement that into your program? :D Then ya'd never have to worry about DFgack having to update.
Post by: magistrate101 on November 14, 2010, 04:46:50 pm
unless said new version of DF bypass the auto-update leading to a update for that auto-update.waiting for the update.
As far as I know there aren't any DFHack offsets yet
DFusion seems to be able to auto-update its offsets... maybe try to implement that into your program? :D Then ya'd never have to worry about DFgack having to update.
The dwarf logic... It is undeniable... Yet strangely familiar D:
Post by: Quietust on November 14, 2010, 11:10:39 pm
Code: [Select]
<Version name="v0.31.17 SDL" os="windows" base="v0.31.16 SDL" rebase="0x472D0">
<PETimeStamp value="0x4CDC27A0" />
<MD5 value="2265cdcb215a0f12c5530cfd95d4d6fa" />
<Offsets>
<Group name="Creatures">
<Address name="vector" value="0x0169f2c4"/>
<Address name="current_race" value="0x014cbaf0" />
<Address name="current_civ" value="0x014cbae4" />
<Group name="creature">
<Offset name="name" value="0x0" />
<Offset name="custom_profession" value="0x006C" />
<Offset name="profession" value="0x0088" />
<Offset name="race" value="0x008C" />
<Offset name="position" value="0x90" />
<Offset name="flags1" value="0x00E0" />
<Offset name="flags2" value="0x00E4" />
<Offset name="caste" value="0x00F8"/>
<Offset name="sex" value="0x00FA" /> <!-- ASSUMED -->
<Offset name="id" value="0x00FC" />
<Offset name="civ" value="0x108" />
<Group name="advanced">
<Offset name="pickup_equipment_bit" value="0x01BC" />
<Offset name="mood" value="0x210" />
<Offset name="pregnancy" value="0x214" />
<Offset name="pregnancy_ptr" value="0x218" />
<Offset name="birth_year" value="0x224" />
<Offset name="birth_time" value="0x228" />
<Offset name="inventory_vector" value="0x288" />
<Offset name="current_job" value="0x02F4" />
<Offset name="current_job_skill" value="0x02F8" />
<Offset name="physical" value="0x3CC" />
<Offset name="appearance_vector" value="0x52C" />
<Offset name="artifact_name" value="0x5AC" />
<Offset name="soul_vector" value="0x648" />
<Offset name="current_soul" value="0x658" />
<Offset name="labors" value="0x066C" />
<Offset name="happiness" value="0x070C" />
</Group>
</Group>
</Group>
<Group name="Translations">
<Address name="language_vector" value="0x016e3520"/>
<Address name="translation_vector" value="0x016e3540"/>
<Offset name="word_table" value="0x3c"/>
</Group>
<Group name="Position">
<Address name="cursor_xyz" value="0xb107f0" />
</Group>
<Group name="Materials">
<Address name="inorganics" value="0x16e327c" />
<Address name="organics_all" value="0x16e329c" />
<Address name="organics_trees" value="0x16e32cc" />
<Address name="organics_plants" value="0x16e32ac" />
<Address name="creature_type_vector" value="0x16E3370" />
</Group>
<Group name="GUI">
<Address name="pause_state" value="0x14C7BE1" />
</Group>
</Offsets>
</Version>
The main problem is that I don't know exactly which offsets Runesmith requires, so I don't know how much more I need to find before it'll start working.
Post by: sizeak on November 15, 2010, 07:35:57 pm
I'm close, but Runesmith is still giving "SHM ACCESS DENIED" messages and exiting:Code: [Select]<Version name="v0.31.17 SDL" os="windows" base="v0.31.16 SDL" rebase="0x472D0">
<PETimeStamp value="0x4CDC27A0" />
<MD5 value="2265cdcb215a0f12c5530cfd95d4d6fa" />
<Offsets>
<Group name="Creatures">
<Address name="vector" value="0x0169f2c4"/>
<Address name="current_race" value="0x014cbaf0" />
<Address name="current_civ" value="0x014cbae4" />
<Group name="creature">
<Offset name="name" value="0x0" />
<Offset name="custom_profession" value="0x006C" />
<Offset name="profession" value="0x0088" />
<Offset name="race" value="0x008C" />
<Offset name="position" value="0x90" />
<Offset name="flags1" value="0x00E0" />
<Offset name="flags2" value="0x00E4" />
<Offset name="caste" value="0x00F8"/>
<Offset name="sex" value="0x00FA" /> <!-- ASSUMED -->
<Offset name="id" value="0x00FC" />
<Offset name="civ" value="0x108" />
<Group name="advanced">
<Offset name="pickup_equipment_bit" value="0x01BC" />
<Offset name="mood" value="0x210" />
<Offset name="pregnancy" value="0x214" />
<Offset name="pregnancy_ptr" value="0x218" />
<Offset name="birth_year" value="0x224" />
<Offset name="birth_time" value="0x228" />
<Offset name="inventory_vector" value="0x288" />
<Offset name="current_job" value="0x02F4" />
<Offset name="current_job_skill" value="0x02F8" />
<Offset name="physical" value="0x3CC" />
<Offset name="appearance_vector" value="0x52C" />
<Offset name="artifact_name" value="0x5AC" />
<Offset name="soul_vector" value="0x648" />
<Offset name="current_soul" value="0x658" />
<Offset name="labors" value="0x066C" />
<Offset name="happiness" value="0x070C" />
</Group>
</Group>
</Group>
<Group name="Translations">
<Address name="language_vector" value="0x016e3520"/>
<Address name="translation_vector" value="0x016e3540"/>
<Offset name="word_table" value="0x3c"/>
</Group>
<Group name="Position">
<Address name="cursor_xyz" value="0xb107f0" />
</Group>
<Group name="Materials">
<Address name="inorganics" value="0x16e327c" />
<Address name="organics_all" value="0x16e329c" />
<Address name="organics_trees" value="0x16e32cc" />
<Address name="organics_plants" value="0x16e32ac" />
<Address name="creature_type_vector" value="0x16E3370" />
</Group>
<Group name="GUI">
<Address name="pause_state" value="0x14C7BE1" />
</Group>
</Offsets>
</Version>
The main problem is that I don't know exactly which offsets Runesmith requires, so I don't know how much more I need to find before it'll start working.
It needs all of the creature based ones
Post by: TheJackal on November 17, 2010, 11:02:19 am
Post by: peterix on November 17, 2010, 12:39:55 pm
How close are we to an update?Could take a bit of time.
I'll do a dfhack release with some of the base utils today, with 31.18 support (not 31.17, it's not worth supporting). Probably no weather data, no creature data and no items. The new ghost stuff will shake things up a bit too, so the creature part isn't just offset finding, but also understanding the changes. Offsets the DT guys already found will help a bit (as usual), but it's just a fraction of what dfhack/stonesense/runesmith/etc. need.
Post by: armrha on November 17, 2010, 02:18:32 pm
Post by: TheJackal on November 17, 2010, 03:55:50 pm
Why is everyone so pushy. Calm down. Even stuff like: "waiting for update". If you are just going to sit there idle and then remind people you are doing so to rush them along, please just don't post and learn to program and just make your own if you really are just going to sit there waiting for it. I don't know how we got this sense of entitlement to free utilities and infinite support for them but it is my least favorite thing about this community.
How is the air up there on your high horse?
Post by: SquidgyB on November 17, 2010, 05:43:16 pm
There's no malice intended in trying to stem the tide, even if it won't stop it completely.
Post by: Rumrusher on November 17, 2010, 06:14:47 pm
Why is everyone so pushy. Calm down. Even stuff like: "waiting for update". If you are just going to sit there idle and then remind people you are doing so to rush them along, please just don't post and learn to program and just make your own if you really are just going to sit there waiting for it. I don't know how we got this sense of entitlement to free utilities and infinite support for them but it is my least favorite thing about this community.I would so jump on making my own utilities if it wasn't for the fact that staring at Dfhack codes is as about as much sense as staring into C++ or Java with out a book on how to write in it.
If there was a How to guide some where I would at least make a attempt at doing so.
I love to see if making designation work in adventurer mode so ordering companions to build in areas will make those lairs much more enjoyable and customizable. alas it's a pipe dream, still enjoy the faux building tweak gives me and the chance of making certain items block the path also a good say to decorate the place.
Post by: DFPongo on November 17, 2010, 07:00:02 pm
Why is everyone so pushy. Calm down. Even stuff like: "waiting for update". If you are just going to sit there idle and then remind people you are doing so to rush them along, please just don't post and learn to program and just make your own if you really are just going to sit there waiting for it. I don't know how we got this sense of entitlement to free utilities and infinite support for them but it is my least favorite thing about this community.
How is the air up there on your high horse?
See I would say that the person that bluntly demanded an update was on his high horse. Maybe horses work differently where you live.
Post by: TheJackal on November 18, 2010, 01:24:23 am
Why is everyone so pushy. Calm down. Even stuff like: "waiting for update". If you are just going to sit there idle and then remind people you are doing so to rush them along, please just don't post and learn to program and just make your own if you really are just going to sit there waiting for it. I don't know how we got this sense of entitlement to free utilities and infinite support for them but it is my least favorite thing about this community.
How is the air up there on your high horse?
See I would say that the person that bluntly demanded an update was on his high horse. Maybe horses work differently where you live.
That is a silly notion, thinking that the function of horses could be geographically dependent. Though I do wonder where someone bluntly demanded an update - it must have been way upthread. I admit I didn't read all of the 55+ pages.
How close are we to an update?Could take a bit of time.
I'll do a dfhack release with some of the base utils today, with 31.18 support (not 31.17, it's not worth supporting). Probably no weather data, no creature data and no items. The new ghost stuff will shake things up a bit too, so the creature part isn't just offset finding, but also understanding the changes. Offsets the DT guys already found will help a bit (as usual), but it's just a fraction of what dfhack/stonesense/runesmith/etc. need.
Thanks for the update, by the way. I'm looking forward to seeing the new release.
Post by: DFPongo on November 19, 2010, 02:16:42 am
Post by: Stormrage on November 22, 2010, 06:55:20 am
Post by: sizeak on November 22, 2010, 07:25:55 am
Hmmm, I tried copying the memory.xml (and changing it to memory-ng.xml) and dfhack.dll over from the new DFHack release to Runesmith folder to try and use it with the new version, but it doesn't work. Anyone had better luck?
Maybe because it's not that simple and maybe because there aren't offsets for creatures yet which would explain why there isn't a Runesmith update... Also I don't condone or support users updating it themselves and as such don't offer support for self update problems.
Post by: Altaree on November 22, 2010, 09:45:29 am
Thanks for the reply Sizeak. The "why" is helping me wait patiently for the "when"!Hmmm, I tried copying the memory.xml (and changing it to memory-ng.xml) and dfhack.dll over from the new DFHack release to Runesmith folder to try and use it with the new version, but it doesn't work. Anyone had better luck?
Maybe because it's not that simple and maybe because there aren't offsets for creatures yet which would explain why there isn't a Runesmith update... Also I don't condone or support users updating it themselves and as such don't offer support for self update problems.
Post by: Fayrik on November 22, 2010, 12:46:39 pm
You'll probably find that the memory.xml doesn't have the same offsets as memory-ng.xml.
I think that in order to update the memory-ng.xml, you may have to read through it individually and check the values.
I've also noticed when upgrading from .12 to .16 with stonesence's old version, you only need to update the memory file (whichever one it is), but you do not need to update the dfhack.dll.
Post by: peterix on November 22, 2010, 01:54:28 pm
I downloaded the DFHack Source for the .16 version -- And I noticed that memory.xml and memory-ng.xml aren't the same file.To get the right file in the proper place, you have to build DFhack. (eventually, DFHack may be partially generated from the xml file). memory.xml is the file in old format, which didn't support groups. memory-ng.xml has groups AND in DFHack 0.5.1 also entry invalidation. All the tools need to be rebuilt against 0.5.1 to support that. Older tools will ignore the invalidation scheme and use offsets inherited from 31.16 that weren't found yet (marked as invalid), leading to hard crashes instead of errors that can be handled properly.
You'll probably find that the memory.xml doesn't have the same offsets as memory-ng.xml.
I think that in order to update the memory-ng.xml, you may have to read through it individually and check the values.
I've also noticed when upgrading from .12 to .16 with stonesence's old version, you only need to update the memory file (whichever one it is), but you do not need to update the dfhack.dll.
Anyway, I should have the creature offsets soon :)
Post by: Jiri Petru on November 24, 2010, 12:55:52 pm
Post by: sizeak on November 24, 2010, 01:05:55 pm
I've recently started using Runesmith as the only way that can "fix" FPS loss from walling off "things" - just kill them all, and you can revive them later when you tear the barricade down. So thanks for this utility. Looking forward for the next version.
Glad you like it, an update will be released as soon as all the required offsets have been found. If only toady would implement some kind of mod interface so it wasn't necessary :/
Post by: Rumrusher on November 24, 2010, 03:52:18 pm
I've recently started using Runesmith as the only way that can "fix" FPS loss from walling off "things" - just kill them all, and you can revive them later when you tear the barricade down. So thanks for this utility. Looking forward for the next version.ohh yeah about that... they will come back wrong, when creatures die they tend to separate from their bodies in this version. so removing the dead killed flags will leave a 'ghost' of the person so until a heal function pops in dead people just stay dead.
Post by: Jiri Petru on November 24, 2010, 08:38:13 pm
ohh yeah about that... they will come back wrong, when creatures die they tend to separate from their bodies in this version. so removing the dead killed flags will leave a 'ghost' of the person so until a heal function pops in dead people just stay dead.
Erm... I'm not sure I understand. Does this matter with demons?
Post by: dree12 on November 24, 2010, 09:36:12 pm
Post by: daego on November 24, 2010, 09:54:28 pm
Post by: madjoe5 on November 24, 2010, 11:07:16 pm
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on November 25, 2010, 01:31:36 am
Not that I don't enjoy reading your posts, everyone else.
Post by: Jiri Petru on November 25, 2010, 08:02:09 am
He means if you revive a "dead" thing, you won't get it back properly (because it no longer has a body.) Therefore, don't revive your demons by removing the "dead" flag. Reopening the walls will still work.
What I did was to kill all demons using the genocide option. I checked and they indeed disappeared from the map.
Then I tried to revive them by removing the "dead" tag. I checked and they were on the map again.
There isn't any problem with this, right? If I understand correctly, you're saying I can't revive thing that have been killed in game, but reviving things that have been cheated away is ok.
Post by: Rumrusher on November 25, 2010, 09:26:16 am
I take it the genocide button slaps on the remove flag on a race which just turns them invisible. so they aren't really dead in the first place.He means if you revive a "dead" thing, you won't get it back properly (because it no longer has a body.) Therefore, don't revive your demons by removing the "dead" flag. Reopening the walls will still work.
What I did was to kill all demons using the genocide option. I checked and they indeed disappeared from the map.
Then I tried to revive them by removing the "dead" tag. I checked and they were on the map again.
There isn't any problem with this, right? If I understand correctly, you're saying I can't revive thing that have been killed in game, but reviving things that have been cheated away is ok.
Post by: BigD145 on November 25, 2010, 01:42:43 pm
Post by: Miko19 on November 25, 2010, 03:48:10 pm
Isn't it already on DF's request list?I've recently started using Runesmith as the only way that can "fix" FPS loss from walling off "things" - just kill them all, and you can revive them later when you tear the barricade down. So thanks for this utility. Looking forward for the next version.
Glad you like it, an update will be released as soon as all the required offsets have been found. If only toady would implement some kind of mod interface so it wasn't necessary :/
Post by: magistrate101 on November 25, 2010, 06:35:55 pm
Post by: MaximumZero on November 25, 2010, 06:54:38 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on November 25, 2010, 08:08:56 pm
Post by: Glech on November 25, 2010, 10:10:46 pm
This looks so much more appealing than the white letters on dark background.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on November 26, 2010, 01:10:03 am
I wonder if he's waiting until 0.31.20 to update this :'(
My god, how many times do you have to be told? He doesn't find the offsets himself, he uses the ones from DF Hack, and as far as I know they haven't been found yet. Even if they have been found, just because they're available doesn't mean sizeak will update it ASAP - he has a life outside Runesmith.
Post by: magistrate101 on November 26, 2010, 01:42:59 am
I wonder if he's waiting until 0.31.20 to update this :'(
My god, how many times do you have to be told? He doesn't find the offsets himself, he uses the ones from DF Hack, and as far as I know they haven't been found yet. Even if they have been found, just because they're available doesn't mean sizeak will update it ASAP - he has a life outside Runesmith.
how many times do you need to be told?
Same thing for you, WHAT IF IT TAKES 'TILL 0.31.20 TO GET TEH OFFSETS! :'(
Post by: Tarran on November 26, 2010, 01:58:23 am
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on November 26, 2010, 02:00:15 am
Same thing for you, WHAT IF IT TAKES 'TILL 0.31.20 TO GET TEH OFFSETS! :'(
What do you mean "same thing for you"? There's no point in whining about how long it's going to take or when the offsets are going to be found.
Anyway, I don't want to start a huge fight, but seriously magistrate, there's no reason to post those kinds of posts.
Post by: Truean on November 26, 2010, 06:47:09 pm
Same thing for you, WHAT IF IT TAKES 'TILL 0.31.20 TO GET TEH OFFSETS! :'(
Then it takes til then. Free product. Learn patience.
In the meantime, I suggest building training facilities to skill up your dwarves. Treat your highest skilled craftsdwarves like
Post by: magistrate101 on November 27, 2010, 02:10:03 am
Same thing for you, WHAT IF IT TAKES 'TILL 0.31.20 TO GET TEH OFFSETS! :'(
What do you mean "same thing for you"? There's no point in whining about how long it's going to take or when the offsets are going to be found.
Anyway, I don't want to start a huge fight, but seriously magistrate, there's no reason to post those kinds of posts.
I can't believe how easy it is to frustrate people now-a-days ;D And to what I put in bolds, A fight can be started by the simplest things, such as saying hi... You could've started a fight alright, HELL, you could've started a flame war... Flame wars are fun... Especially when you're in the middle of it!
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Post by: darkedone02 on November 27, 2010, 02:12:22 am
Post by: magistrate101 on November 27, 2010, 02:33:29 am
Some people are impatient, some people need this mod just like they need DF Therapist to play Dwarf Fortress mode. I too am getting a bit impatient as it taking very long then it should. Although I'm not complaining and trying to be as patient as I can, I got other games to play to help me pre-occupy my game and won't start up DF without an updated version from the new version of Dwarf Fortress.
Dear lord, this is pretty much EXACTLY how I feel! (Except for the italicized part of course)
Post by: Tarran on November 27, 2010, 02:40:34 am
You forgot to italicize a bit. ::)Some people are impatient, some people need this mod just like they need DF Therapist to play Dwarf Fortress mode. I too am getting a bit impatient as it taking very long then it should. Although I'm not complaining and trying to be as patient as I can, I got other games to play to help me pre-occupy my game and won't start up DF without an updated version from the new version of Dwarf Fortress.
Dear lord, this is pretty much EXACTLY how I feel! (Except for the italicized part of course)
Anyway, have patience, the world isn't going to end in five days ('course if it was going to end in five days I'd head-desk for even saying that).
Post by: Uzu Bash on November 27, 2010, 02:27:59 pm
Actually, I'm just itching to spade out skill/attribute development in adventure mode, see what changes have been made. Without viewing the numbers, you can't come to any conclusions.
Post by: T-manSim on November 28, 2010, 02:29:39 pm
Post by: sizeak on November 28, 2010, 07:25:02 pm
Is there a way to get this to cure a dwarf of his wounds? Or is that going to be a feature in the future? Thanks.
No sorry and it's unlikely to be in anytime soon
Post by: sizeak on November 28, 2010, 07:28:59 pm
As you can see, no changes have been made since the 18th, thus no new offsets have been added so pipe down
Post by: drailgre on December 02, 2010, 05:52:31 pm
Post by: xtank5 on December 02, 2010, 06:54:05 pm
When will this be available for 0.31.18?When it's available.
Post by: darkedone02 on December 02, 2010, 07:39:27 pm
Post by: Daywalkah on December 02, 2010, 08:10:10 pm
To all those moaning, here (https://github.com/peterix/dfhack/commits/master) is the link to the DFHack commits page. It's a list of all changes made to the DFHack source and associated files (including memory-ng.xml) as they're pushed (uploaded) to the repository; this is the earliest they are available to developers i.e. me.
As you can see, no changes have been made since the 18th, thus no new offsets have been added so pipe down
Not that far up the page....
Post by: Gara-nis on December 02, 2010, 08:52:25 pm
Post by: drailgre on December 02, 2010, 10:32:56 pm
It's not sizeak's responsibility to program Runesmith. He doesn't even have to work on it at all. Be happy that Runesmith actually exists and there's a person willing to update it on his spare time. If you guys would actually read his post.....To all those moaning, here (https://github.com/peterix/dfhack/commits/master) is the link to the DFHack commits page. It's a list of all changes made to the DFHack source and associated files (including memory-ng.xml) as they're pushed (uploaded) to the repository; this is the earliest they are available to developers i.e. me.
As you can see, no changes have been made since the 18th, thus no new offsets have been added so pipe down
problem is that Im not smart enough to do any of that,
Not that far up the page....
Post by: Aklyon on December 02, 2010, 10:57:45 pm
To me, Runesmith is just something to let you speed up making specific fortresses (like a fortress of Legendary engravers), or just to mess around with.
Post by: darkedone02 on December 03, 2010, 12:21:56 am
Post by: Gara-nis on December 03, 2010, 01:12:57 am
Post by: Axecleaver on December 03, 2010, 05:39:31 am
Post by: Gara-nis on December 03, 2010, 11:43:50 am
1. Peterix devotes himself to dfhack and always releases immediately after a DF update
2. Other people who grok dfhack join the project and help maintain and build it.
3. Someone forks dfhack and continues development.
4. People start using something other than dfhack.
The above is pretty much the same crap every open source project goes through when it gets popular.
So peterix wrote something awesome, but he's doing it for free, and probably has a "REAL LIFE" somewhere doing something that puts a roof over his head. Like all of us, he's human, and sometimes this so-called "REAL LIFE" takes precedence over the open source project he maintains that other people just so happen to depend on.
So basically everyone can either a) be patient or b) learn how to do what peterix does and submit your own revisions to dfhack.
UPDATE: Talked to peterix on IRC, and it's like I thought, he is buried in piles of RL work and hasn't had time for df.
Post by: sizeak on December 03, 2010, 03:26:46 pm
So basically 4 possible solutions exist:
1. Peterix devotes himself to dfhack and always releases immediately after a DF update
2. Other people who grok dfhack join the project and help maintain and build it.
3. Someone forks dfhack and continues development.
4. People start using something other than dfhack.
The above is pretty much the same crap every open source project goes through when it gets popular.
So peterix wrote something awesome, but he's doing it for free, and probably has a "REAL LIFE" somewhere doing something that puts a roof over his head. Like all of us, he's human, and sometimes this so-called "REAL LIFE" takes precedence over the open source project he maintains that other people just so happen to depend on.
So basically everyone can either a) be patient or b) learn how to do what peterix does and submit your own revisions to dfhack.
UPDATE: Talked to peterix on IRC, and it's like I thought, he is buried in piles of RL work and hasn't had time for df.
This is the truth, I'm glad somebody understands that devs are people to. However, options 3 & 4 of your post don't really apply to DFHack since the code itself works fine, it's the offsets (memory locations of where vectors etc are located within the DF stack frame) that need finding so forking wouldn't really achieve much.
Finding these involves manually searching through DF's memory with tools fro memory searching/process debugging etc to find the relevant data structures, it's not exactly a fun/easy/quick job at the best of times. It's like being kicked in the balls a million times a minute by someone with nails sticking out of their shoes.
The two main reason I don't help find offsets is because I'd rather go play on my NES tbh
Post by: magistrate101 on December 03, 2010, 03:30:13 pm
I'd rather go play on my NES tbh
heh heh heh heh... I would too, only if i had one ;D
Post by: Tarran on December 03, 2010, 04:51:26 pm
Sorry, but it's just been really getting on my nerves how people are messing them up. I mean, a mod (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_%28computer_gaming%29) is a modification to a game. Runesmith doesn't modify the program, it modifies/hacks the current fortress/game. Those may sound similar, but they aren't. Runesmith is a tool/utility; it is a whole separate program, not simply a modification to Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Justin In Oz on December 03, 2010, 06:53:03 pm
I just used the 'smith to stop my legendary+3 miner from hovering in the air for aeternity.
I was ready to give up on him.
Post by: sizeak on December 03, 2010, 07:24:21 pm
Just chipping in a big thanks.
I just used the 'smith to stop my legendary+3 miner from hovering in the air for aeternity.
I was ready to give up on him.
:D
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on December 03, 2010, 10:13:35 pm
Post by: Stormrage on December 04, 2010, 02:23:34 pm
Post by: Gara-nis on December 04, 2010, 07:19:23 pm
If peterix or anyone else could just say how they look for offsets with and what programs they use, I'm sure many of us would be glad to do the dirty work for you, but since we, or at least I, don't even know in what direction to look at, there is really nothing to be done here.
It requires knowledge of x86 assembly and how DF stores the stuff. It is really pretty damn complicated. I've tried it.
Post by: Fayrik on December 07, 2010, 09:25:28 pm
I'm trying to steal cave-people to do dirty work for me, and hopefully defend the caves.
I've set their civilization to 9, which is the same as all of my dwarves. Now they're tame. I can flag labours in game, but their task is always set to tame.. I've checked, their tame flag is off.
Can I actually steal other civilization's people, and have them work for me, or is tame gunna be the best I can get?
(Incase you're wondering, I posted it here, since I'm using Runesmith for this, and I'm hoping I won't have to use any other tools to do this.)
Post by: Darquan on December 07, 2010, 11:19:13 pm
It requires knowledge of x86 assembly and how DF stores the stuff.More of the latter than the former. I know assembly. It didn't help.
It is really pretty damn complicated.Aye, it is...
I've tried it.Trust him. I tried too. No success.
Post by: nef on December 11, 2010, 09:23:55 am
Does this tool have an update in the works?
Post by: Aklyon on December 11, 2010, 09:57:13 am
Been almost a month since the last update to the gameIts getting there.
Does this tool have an update in the works?
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on December 11, 2010, 03:10:28 pm
Uhh, quick question!
I'm trying to steal cave-people to do dirty work for me, and hopefully defend the caves.
I've set their civilization to 9, which is the same as all of my dwarves. Now they're tame. I can flag labours in game, but their task is always set to tame.. I've checked, their tame flag is off.
The game treats all non-civ-race members of a civ as tame animals in Fort Mode.
Post by: TALLPANZER on December 18, 2010, 01:34:11 pm
Thank you
Post by: peterix on December 18, 2010, 06:17:12 pm
Will this soon be updated? I would really like a version that can work with Genesis.Well, let me tell you when:
Thank you
First I have to finish this video processing acceleration project. Then another pile of annoying math proofs. (those things have priority)
Then, maybe, I'll have a few days for DFHack, and I'll possibly manage to automate the offset search crap so I don't have to babysit it so much. Then I'll do a release and all the tool devs will have to update/recompile their stuff. Then you'll get an update.
Lots of big IFs you see. If things don't work out, I'll have some time in February. If they do work out, it will still depend on other people when/if there are updates to tools not included in the main DFHack builds.
Post by: sizeak on December 18, 2010, 08:11:37 pm
Will this soon be updated? I would really like a version that can work with Genesis.Well, let me tell you when:
Thank you
First I have to finish this video processing acceleration project. Then another pile of annoying math proofs. (those things have priority)
Then, maybe, I'll have a few days for DFHack, and I'll possibly manage to automate the offset search crap so I don't have to babysit it so much. Then I'll do a release and all the tool devs will have to update/recompile their stuff. Then you'll get an update.
Lots of big IFs you see. If things don't work out, I'll have some time in February. If they do work out, it will still depend on other people when/if there are updates to tools not included in the main DFHack builds.
:D
Post by: Truean on December 18, 2010, 11:12:57 pm
Will this soon be updated? I would really like a version that can work with Genesis.Well, let me tell you when:
Thank you
First I have to finish this video processing acceleration project. Then another pile of annoying math proofs. (those things have priority)
Then, maybe, I'll have a few days for DFHack, and I'll possibly manage to automate the offset search crap so I don't have to babysit it so much. Then I'll do a release and all the tool devs will have to update/recompile their stuff. Then you'll get an update.
Lots of big IFs you see. If things don't work out, I'll have some time in February. If they do work out, it will still depend on other people when/if there are updates to tools not included in the main DFHack builds.
:D
:) :P
Post by: Darquan on December 20, 2010, 04:38:22 am
Otherwise it is pretty much possible things will be just like a few times before - dfhack finally gets updated, and then DF gets another release in two-three days...
Post by: TALLPANZER on December 20, 2010, 04:02:04 pm
I thank you for responding, and wish you good luck.Will this soon be updated? I would really like a version that can work with Genesis.Well, let me tell you when:
Thank you
First I have to finish this video processing acceleration project. Then another pile of annoying math proofs. (those things have priority)
Then, maybe, I'll have a few days for DFHack, and I'll possibly manage to automate the offset search crap so I don't have to babysit it so much. Then I'll do a release and all the tool devs will have to update/recompile their stuff. Then you'll get an update.
Lots of big IFs you see. If things don't work out, I'll have some time in February. If they do work out, it will still depend on other people when/if there are updates to tools not included in the main DFHack builds.
Post by: Tjalling on December 26, 2010, 09:23:41 pm
Post by: Firnagzen on December 26, 2010, 10:09:05 pm
Until it is compatible with .18.
Post by: Tjalling on December 26, 2010, 10:16:40 pm
I guess it's time to start looking for a way to make my save game work with .16, then...
Post by: sizeak on December 26, 2010, 10:22:57 pm
Damnit. Well, thanks anyway!
I guess it's time to start looking for a way to make my save game work with .16, then...
Sorry man :/
Post by: Tjalling on December 26, 2010, 10:35:08 pm
However, that does leave me with a forgotten beast that I wanted to genocide. Losing is not fun, you know.
It'd help me so much if you would know another method =)
Post by: Rumrusher on December 27, 2010, 04:46:20 am
That's okay. By the looks of it you've made plenty people happy with previous versions.if you are needing for a hit, then grab Dfusion go into the ADV_tools plugin LUA(using Notepad) find the toggle Ghostliness code and change the number from 76 to either 26(tame) for if the beast didn't kill any one in your civ, or 1(dead) if you want it dead. then use your pointer and hover over the creature and activate the code. if you did it correctly the Dfusion won't disappear and the creature would be either Tamed, or dead,(no bodies.)
However, that does leave me with a forgotten beast that I wanted to genocide. Losing is not fun, you know.
It'd help me so much if you would know another method =)
now if you are like me, then you would try to Tame it then Change it's race to DWARF using the change race function best to save after this or the game will crash if the thing gets hurt. Which will make it possible for the beast to put good use to your civ.
Post by: Tjalling on December 27, 2010, 11:45:23 am
Man, that sounds like a much better idea than what I did. I'll remember that for next time.That's okay. By the looks of it you've made plenty people happy with previous versions.if you are needing for a hit, then grab Dfusion go into the ADV_tools plugin LUA(using Notepad) find the toggle Ghostliness code and change the number from 76 to either 26(tame) for if the beast didn't kill any one in your civ, or 1(dead) if you want it dead. then use your pointer and hover over the creature and activate the code. if you did it correctly the Dfusion won't disappear and the creature would be either Tamed, or dead,(no bodies.)
However, that does leave me with a forgotten beast that I wanted to genocide. Losing is not fun, you know.
It'd help me so much if you would know another method =)
now if you are like me, then you would try to Tame it then Change it's race to DWARF using the change race function best to save after this or the game will crash if the thing gets hurt. Which will make it possible for the beast to put good use to your civ.
I ended up using DFHack's dfliquids to form an Obsidian wall around it and then filled it with magma. It ain't pretty, I know.
Post by: sizeak on December 27, 2010, 07:02:41 pm
Man, that sounds like a much better idea than what I did. I'll remember that for next time.That's okay. By the looks of it you've made plenty people happy with previous versions.if you are needing for a hit, then grab Dfusion go into the ADV_tools plugin LUA(using Notepad) find the toggle Ghostliness code and change the number from 76 to either 26(tame) for if the beast didn't kill any one in your civ, or 1(dead) if you want it dead. then use your pointer and hover over the creature and activate the code. if you did it correctly the Dfusion won't disappear and the creature would be either Tamed, or dead,(no bodies.)
However, that does leave me with a forgotten beast that I wanted to genocide. Losing is not fun, you know.
It'd help me so much if you would know another method =)
now if you are like me, then you would try to Tame it then Change it's race to DWARF using the change race function best to save after this or the game will crash if the thing gets hurt. Which will make it possible for the beast to put good use to your civ.
I ended up using DFHack's dfliquids to form an Obsidian wall around it and then filled it with magma. It ain't pretty, I know.
resourceful though
Post by: Jwguy on December 28, 2010, 07:21:12 am
Post by: Rumrusher on December 28, 2010, 03:59:32 pm
0.31.18 support is on the way, I hope. I could use it, about now, with my injured dwarves who never recover from their yellow wounds.first make sure the wounds aren't fatal... or oozing blood. is so then pause then use the turn ghost function before attempting this.
next change the race to a COLOSSUS_BRONZE, or DEMON_1
save and reload
change the Dwarf back
save and reload
The Dwarf should be fine... unless it dying from melting then his body is still over heated and should be cooled down before his fat RE-melts again.(also you should remove the ghost flag so urist won't be scaring Mittens with his astro-projection.)
This process can also be use to revive dead members, prolong torture, keep companions longer(travel can be use as a substitute for saving).
Post by: thrithwig on December 31, 2010, 11:08:41 pm
Post by: Aklyon on December 31, 2010, 11:10:36 pm
Post by: sizeak on December 31, 2010, 11:24:57 pm
Post by: thrithwig on January 01, 2011, 02:21:43 am
Post by: Jwguy on January 01, 2011, 04:47:18 am
0.31.18 support is on the way, I hope. I could use it, about now, with my injured dwarves who never recover from their yellow wounds.first make sure the wounds aren't fatal... or oozing blood. is so then pause then use the turn ghost function before attempting this.
next change the race to a COLOSSUS_BRONZE, or DEMON_1
save and reload
change the Dwarf back
save and reload
The Dwarf should be fine... unless it dying from melting then his body is still over heated and should be cooled down before his fat RE-melts again.(also you should remove the ghost flag so urist won't be scaring Mittens with his astro-projection.)
This process can also be use to revive dead members, prolong torture, keep companions longer(travel can be use as a substitute for saving).
Huh. Don't think any of that is possible. Especially not with the Raws alone, anyways. Runesmith doesn't work with the current version, to my knowledge, hence why I mentioned hoping for an update.
Post by: Rumrusher on January 01, 2011, 10:17:44 am
whoops I forgot to re-mention Dfusion in that sorry to have confuse you and leaving you with dead dwarfs.0.31.18 support is on the way, I hope. I could use it, about now, with my injured dwarves who never recover from their yellow wounds.first make sure the wounds aren't fatal... or oozing blood. is so then pause then use the turn ghost function before attempting this.
next change the race to a COLOSSUS_BRONZE, or DEMON_1
save and reload
change the Dwarf back
save and reload
The Dwarf should be fine... unless it dying from melting then his body is still over heated and should be cooled down before his fat RE-melts again.(also you should remove the ghost flag so urist won't be scaring Mittens with his astro-projection.)
This process can also be use to revive dead members, prolong torture, keep companions longer(travel can be use as a substitute for saving).
Huh. Don't think any of that is possible. Especially not with the Raws alone, anyways. Runesmith doesn't work with the current version, to my knowledge, hence why I mentioned hoping for an update.
Post by: NewsMuffin on January 01, 2011, 05:19:15 pm
First, you look at the wounds of the dwarf you want to heal. Write down a note on a piece of paper, or remember what they are, then save and quit DF.
Open the raws for that world gen, and go to the dwarf entry in creature_standard.txt, and remove the wounded body parts from it.
Next, load up the world again, unpause, then pause after 3 to 5 seconds, then save and quit.
Go back to the raws, and replace the body part.
Load DF, and the dwarf should be healed.
This may take a while for each individual dwarf, and I don't think doing that many at a time is such a good idea.
Also, this may not work in DF2010, but I know it worked in 40d, so make sure to back up the save. Just a heads up.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on January 02, 2011, 08:37:53 am
Post by: Bharani on January 02, 2011, 03:04:19 pm
0.31.18 support is on the way, I hope. I could use it, about now, with my injured dwarves who never recover from their yellow wounds.first make sure the wounds aren't fatal... or oozing blood. is so then pause then use the turn ghost function before attempting this.
next change the race to a COLOSSUS_BRONZE, or DEMON_1
save and reload
change the Dwarf back
save and reload
The Dwarf should be fine... unless it dying from melting then his body is still over heated and should be cooled down before his fat RE-melts again.(also you should remove the ghost flag so urist won't be scaring Mittens with his astro-projection.)
This process can also be use to revive dead members, prolong torture, keep companions longer(travel can be use as a substitute for saving).
Hm. Not sure I'm doing this right.
I'm trying to heal a dwarf with a yellow lower leg who is being ignored by the others and is starving to death.
Using DFusion while in fort mode. Do I use adv_tools? If so, this is what I get when I try to change adventurer, I get this (it IS fort mode):
plugins/patterns.lua:33: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'num' (a nil value)
If I use change race, it asks me to enter a race in all caps, and then gives me the above error message no matter what I enter.
Any way to heal a dwarf? The Raws method suggested a few posts ago doesn't work either.
Edit: I've also done dfusion -r to update the offsets.txt.
Post by: Starmantis on January 06, 2011, 09:40:53 pm
Post by: sizeak on January 07, 2011, 06:30:54 am
Post by: Jwguy on January 07, 2011, 01:35:20 pm
Post by: Starmantis on January 08, 2011, 03:32:02 pm
Post by: Urist McFumbler on January 08, 2011, 03:50:50 pm
Are you planning on making a newer version?
The answer was posted 2 pages back
Yeah, we're not compatible with anything above .16 atm since DFHack is still missing offsets
Well, let me tell you when:
First I have to finish this video processing acceleration project. Then another pile of annoying math proofs. (those things have priority)
Then, maybe, I'll have a few days for DFHack, and I'll possibly manage to automate the offset search crap so I don't have to babysit it so much. Then I'll do a release and all the tool devs will have to update/recompile their stuff. Then you'll get an update.
Lots of big IFs you see. If things don't work out, I'll have some time in February. If they do work out, it will still depend on other people when/if there are updates to tools not included in the main DFHack builds.
BTW sizeak I think to cut short all the future questions, you should just amend your first post with BIG RED letters on the current incompatibility and the reason.
:D
Post by: Rumrusher on January 08, 2011, 06:17:18 pm
So, I made a .16 fort. Turns out that I can't seem to find anyway to heal my dwarves, even with Runesmith. The only obvious controls are for dead and killed, and that just makes them die upon living. No offense, but I tried DFusion, and your suggestion, Rumrusher, is too terribly vague and confusing to use with it.well there might be a way but you might want to beg Darius to make his Dfusion more backwards compatible. as of now healing is done by cheat engine and a .18 dfusion task of Ghost -> race changer -> save/travel/sleep -> race change back -> save/travel/sleep -> remove Ghost
though this is just a hack version of removing the parts from the raws then putting them back on(though this also fixes missing limbs than damaged one the raw version of healing does).
Post by: Ze Spy on January 15, 2011, 02:40:54 am
Using 31.16
Post by: sizeak on January 15, 2011, 07:30:11 am
Doesn't work , i keep getting 'Couldn't find a suitable process"
Using 31.16
SDL? Won't work with legacy
Post by: dbay on January 15, 2011, 08:43:58 pm
Doesn't work , i keep getting 'Couldn't find a suitable process"
Using 31.16
SDL? Won't work with legacy
What's the difference between SDL and legacy, anyways?
Post by: traxzilla on January 16, 2011, 06:22:43 am
Post by: DFPongo on January 21, 2011, 11:47:05 am
best thing I have seen in the thread in months.
Post by: dragginmaster on January 23, 2011, 08:25:34 am
Will this soon be updated? I would really like a version that can work with Genesis.Well, let me tell you when:
Thank you
First I have to finish this video processing acceleration project. Then another pile of annoying math proofs. (those things have priority)
Then, maybe, I'll have a few days for DFHack, and I'll possibly manage to automate the offset search crap so I don't have to babysit it so much. Then I'll do a release and all the tool devs will have to update/recompile their stuff. Then you'll get an update.
Lots of big IFs you see. If things don't work out, I'll have some time in February. If they do work out, it will still depend on other people when/if there are updates to tools not included in the main DFHack builds.
If I were smarter I would beg for the privilege to help program this in order to speed up the update. Unfortunately I use software nowadays as I stopped programming back when VB made it to version 5...........
Now I wish I could Bribe other people with money (read: Donate to "support") to help speed the progress along. But that would require an official website for the software probably.
*sigh*
oh wells. will sit here and twitch in anticipation.
Post by: Rumrusher on January 23, 2011, 11:28:30 am
I wonder all that time spent researching in Dfusion helps runesmith get back on it's feet.
Post by: darius on January 23, 2011, 01:34:39 pm
Post by: TDSS02 on January 23, 2011, 02:54:22 pm
Just wanted to say THANK YA
Post by: darius on January 24, 2011, 11:45:36 am
Post by: sizeak on January 28, 2011, 09:45:28 am
Sizeak i just wanted to say i appreciate you releasing and working on this program, its very useful and fun and i dont think ppl give you enough credit, must be a pain in the ass to keep working on something and all ppl do is basically tell you to work harder to get out newer versions lol.
Just wanted to say THANK YA
Thanks man.
Does not seem to work that way :( says shm access error. Must be doing something wrong...
Yeah offsets are wrong, we need more than just the creature vector. Runesmith uses the majority of the advanced creature offsets in memory-ng.xml and a few other things like the date etc. DFHack hasn't had a single commit since Nov 19th last year either so I'm not sure whats going on offset wise.
I haven't played DF in quite a while due to it's piss poor performance and a lot of my time being taken up by work & Minecraft. I have a Hex core machine and I still can't run it very well with 150-200 dwarves because it's to badly coded to use threads. Since I haven't been playing, I haven't been actively developing Runesmith either but if/when DFHack updates I'll be happy to update too assuming all the offsets are found.
Post by: magistrate101 on February 17, 2011, 04:53:20 pm
assuming all the offsets are found.
Which they probably won't...
Post by: Rumrusher on February 17, 2011, 05:41:06 pm
though true until we get that auto offset finder which will make finding offsets much easier.
Post by: Taricus on February 18, 2011, 02:23:49 am
Just have to wait for the offsets now.
Post by: darkedone02 on February 18, 2011, 09:38:27 pm
Post by: Truean on February 18, 2011, 10:32:30 pm
as I figured due to the slow finding of the offset's, a new version have been released and I figured the Runesmith won't really released a new version anytime soon unless they quickly find all the offset of the new version, otherwise this mod has passed away.
The new version has been out three or four days and you've already called time of death on Runesmith. Just chill. Petrix is sick right now.
Post by: magistrate101 on February 18, 2011, 10:35:54 pm
... dang what a harsh way to bump a thread magistrate101.
though true until we get that auto offset finder which will make finding offsets much easier.
Yeh, though, 2 weeks isn't bad, compared to another website... Which is here... (http://www.wyrdysm.com/phpBB3/index.php)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Happily, sizeak (I think that's the DFHack guy...) made DFoffsets.exe... Which, to the best of my knowledge of such things, either prints outthe contents of memory.xml or finds working offsets, I am more sure of the former... :\
MAKE IT AUTOUPDATE!
Post by: Panthera Leo on February 18, 2011, 10:41:19 pm
...
MAKE IT AUTOUPDATE!
That would be wonderful, but I'm a little lost how that would work. If the object it's mapping always stayed the same, but just moved around I could understand. However, I'm a little lost how a auto-update would work because I would at least think every version (or two) would change the shape of the basic game objects.
Of course then again, I've no idea the state the source code is in ...
Post by: Urist McFumbler on February 19, 2011, 01:01:39 am
MAKE IT AUTOUPDATE!
[sarcasm]
Boy I sure hope you can teach everyone of from the DFHack guys (who incidentally is Peterix and Japa amongst others) to all the other programmers that rely on DFHack offsets (DwarfTherapist, Runesmith and others) to do just that.
I am sure that they are just awaiting your great wisdom and intellect to be conferred upon them.
[/sarcasm]
Post by: darkedone02 on February 19, 2011, 07:27:29 pm
as I figured due to the slow finding of the offset's, a new version have been released and I figured the Runesmith won't really released a new version anytime soon unless they quickly find all the offset of the new version, otherwise this mod has passed away.
The new version has been out three or four days and you've already called time of death on Runesmith. Just chill. Petrix is sick right now.
I changed my mind if he releases a new version that works on the latest version, if he misses at least 3 new versions, I'll called it dead.
Post by: Panthera Leo on February 19, 2011, 08:12:37 pm
It should not make that much slower as every C/C++ function is a pointer anyway. The only difference is if the pointer is hard-coded in the executable or stored in memory at run-time, iirc. It would solve the memory mapping issues, I would think.
Post by: BigD145 on February 19, 2011, 08:54:32 pm
as I figured due to the slow finding of the offset's, a new version have been released and I figured the Runesmith won't really released a new version anytime soon unless they quickly find all the offset of the new version, otherwise this mod has passed away.
The new version has been out three or four days and you've already called time of death on Runesmith. Just chill. Petrix is sick right now.
I changed my mind if he releases a new version that works on the latest version, if he misses at least 3 new versions, I'll called it dead.
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sizeak-
I haven't been actively developing Runesmith either but if/when DFHack updates I'll be happy to update too assuming all the offsets are found. It's right at the top of this page.
Post by: Rumrusher on February 20, 2011, 02:42:50 pm
I mean yeah I may had
Post by: Thoranius on February 20, 2011, 02:58:05 pm
And careful on that minecraft, that game may steal your soul, or at least a good portion of your free time. ;)
Post by: Thoranius on February 21, 2011, 04:54:17 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 21, 2011, 04:57:18 pm
Please?
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=62364 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=62364)
Post by: Jay on February 21, 2011, 06:22:36 pm
Better yet, now there's a new version out of DFhack with the needed offsets to update runesmith, I hope.I tried it and it crashed Runesmith. Someone else might have better luck, or an idea of what they're doing XD
Post by: peterix on February 21, 2011, 07:48:06 pm
Happily, sizeak (I think that's the DFHack guy...) made DFoffsets.exe... Which, to the best of my knowledge of such things, either prints outthe contents of memory.xml or finds working offsets, I am more sure of the former... :\The utility prints all the offsets effective for the running DF instance.
MAKE IT AUTOUPDATE!
And *NO*, I won't make it autoupdate.
I'm working on utils that make finding offsets easier, but no automated tool will be good enough to work unsupervised by someone who knows WTF is going on. I'd really not want people screwing up their forts because the autoupdate failed silently. Finding offsets automatically is fine, but the updating part really needs to be done by someone with brain... processors just don't cut it ;)
Post by: sizeak on February 22, 2011, 06:15:28 am
Edit: So I pulled all the changes from the DFHack repo, built it, built RS against it and tried the new offsets and I got SHM access denied which means that the required creature offsets are either wrong or incomplete.
Post by: magistrate101 on February 23, 2011, 10:07:39 pm
And *NO*, I won't make it autoupdate.Fine by me, but, a program to update them would be nice, I have a way in mind, but it would be probly nigh-impossible to code, or eat RAM and CPU power so much your comp freezes, either way, my idea is just an idea, and will probly never happen :P
Post by: Rumrusher on February 23, 2011, 11:03:03 pm
auto updating code already exist in Dfusion although not that much, the entire code is pretty much can be edited and add on to using Notepad...And *NO*, I won't make it autoupdate.Fine by me, but, a program to update them would be nice, I have a way in mind, but it would be probly nigh-impossible to code, or eat RAM and CPU power so much your comp freezes, either way, my idea is just an idea, and will probly never happen :P
Post by: peterix on February 24, 2011, 01:38:18 am
I've seen a lot of hardcoded values, especially when it comes to offsets from the start of structures ~_~ Again, not something users should be subjected to. You can't rely on automation in this. I haven't dug deep into Dfusion though...auto updating code already exist in Dfusion although not that much, the entire code is pretty much can be edited and add on to using Notepad...And *NO*, I won't make it autoupdate.Fine by me, but, a program to update them would be nice, I have a way in mind, but it would be probly nigh-impossible to code, or eat RAM and CPU power so much your comp freezes, either way, my idea is just an idea, and will probly never happen :P
Post by: Ahra on February 24, 2011, 06:55:24 am
Post by: Rumrusher on February 24, 2011, 07:14:22 am
I completely agree on can not relying only on Automation of offsets. There should be some kind of maintenanceI've seen a lot of hardcoded values, especially when it comes to offsets from the start of structures ~_~ Again, not something users should be subjected to. You can't rely on automation in this. I haven't dug deep into Dfusion though...auto updating code already exist in Dfusion although not that much, the entire code is pretty much can be edited and add on to using Notepad...And *NO*, I won't make it autoupdate.Fine by me, but, a program to update them would be nice, I have a way in mind, but it would be probly nigh-impossible to code, or eat RAM and CPU power so much your comp freezes, either way, my idea is just an idea, and will probly never happen :P
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on February 24, 2011, 07:29:04 am
I will look at updating after I finish work tonight.
Edit: So I pulled all the changes from the DFHack repo, built it, built RS against it and tried the new offsets and I got SHM access denied which means that the required creature offsets are either wrong or incomplete.
Aw...
Post by: Thoranius on February 24, 2011, 11:16:17 am
*Throttles the offsets into a whimpering submission*
Post by: sizeak on February 25, 2011, 08:51:15 am
The finding of offsets is a recurring problem, especially since toady releases very very often. If you (anyone) really want to help then really it'd be good if we could start a thread or something to request that toady implements either a modding API of some kind, or at least a way of dumping the offsets to a file from DF since I think it would be fairly easy to do from inside the game. I know it's been tried before but if we could get enough people to ask nicely maybe he would consider it? We could do something like pledge to donate X amount if he implements it?
Also: Runesmith isn't dead at all, it's just missing offsets for the newer versions. I just play .16 instead personally since it works fine with it :D
Post by: Truean on February 25, 2011, 11:37:28 am
40d went too long without updates; 31.xx has perhaps too many of them. This is reflected in the amounts we donate to Toady; we donate more with more updates for some reason. The weird part is that it contributes to fort restarts. Go figure.
If there were some way to keep up the financial support to Toady, I'd advocate fewer updates with more content in each. Not sure how to make that work though. I'm broke but typically give him about $20 a year, and I don't really want anything for it beyond what we get now.
That said, is there some way we can work in a process where Toady tells us the offsets? I confess my ignorance, but does he not make the offsets and thus know what they are? Perhaps if Toady only told Petrix, Rainseeker, Sizeak, Deon, Japa, and others in a select group, it might work? Just a thought intended to be a constructive idea.... The idea being to reduce the amount of work it would take to mod the game due to updates.... :)
In any event, thank you to the various people who make these programs possible. Wonderful job.
Post by: sizeak on February 25, 2011, 12:00:35 pm
So as an example, say we knew where toady lived and we wanted to get from there to the nearest shop. Consider toady's to be the beginning of the program and the location of the shop to be an offset, it would be much faster if he told us where the shop was in relation to his house than if we had to search every street manually.
I hope I simplified it enough :)
Post by: Truean on February 25, 2011, 12:43:54 pm
Toady doesn't *know* or *make* the offsets per se. Offsets are actually really just numbers that specify how far from the beginning of a program an address is, so to find something's location in memory you take the offset for what you want to look at and then add that to the base address of the programs stack frame (little box? of memory). So while he couldn't just tell us, what he could do is dump the pointers to things like the creature vector which would mean we wouldn't have to sit and sift through DF's memory.
So as an example, say we knew where toady lived and we wanted to get from there to the nearest shop. Consider toady's to be the beginning of the program and the location of the shop to be an offset, it would be much faster if he told us where the shop was in relation to his house than if we had to search every street manually.
I hope I simplified it enough :)
Offset... off ...set. How far off is the thing you want set from some starting point.
Your definition is better informed and clearly more accurate. Do you think there is a reasonable way to persuade Toady to "tell us where the shop is in relation to his house," is so we don't have to sit and sift?
Post by: sizeak on February 25, 2011, 12:55:33 pm
Post by: Truean on February 25, 2011, 02:42:05 pm
Maybe, I was thinking something like a petition or a pledge list or something where people could say "right, if you make this easier for use, we'll each donate $5, it's not much but there are 500 of us". No one would have to donate if he didn't do it, but if he did, he'd get a lot of reward donations for it.
Yeah, the only problem I see with that would be people signing the list and then not donating the $5....
I lied, another problem I see is that it would then be easier for people to illegitimately copy his work. :(
Post by: Aranador on February 25, 2011, 06:21:35 pm
But currently DF is programmed as a monolithic slab of code. Toady wants to write the program of his dreams, and I imagine he has less of an interest in doing other stuff at user request when they'd take such a massive reprogramming effort.
Do not get me wrong - I loved Runesmith. It was an absolutely brilliant, and amazingly useful tool - especially for setting up a succession fort with dwarves for the players - or my favorite - turning a possession into a fey mood. But it is gone now - it wasn't Toady's masterpiece, and there is no reason to expect Toady to devote any of his time to Runesmith.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 25, 2011, 06:28:00 pm
Actually - *IF* Toady wanted to do anything even remotely like support this - he would build in callable functions to the program. It would represent a change in design strategy - and could even lead to splitting the UI from the 'core' program which would in turn open the door for 3rd party graphical UIs. In other words - he wouldn't bother to support memory hacks, he'd go ahead and support data manipulation tools. Or he'd directly code in cheatie bits and side step the need for all this.Problem with this (same idea comes up every so often, prolly's been mentioned before in this thread) is that if you have 3rd parties maintaining the interfaces / 3rd party tools, what happens when DF significantly updates? The 3rd party tools have to update as well. If any of the maintainers looses interest, they we're immediately back to just the core game. Except people are going to want to blame Toady that their favorite 3rd party tool doesn't work...
Personally, I think it's worth the risk, but so far as I've heard, Toady doesn't. And in the end, it's really only his decision that matters. :)
Post by: Rumrusher on February 25, 2011, 08:15:10 pm
won't this mean third party tools need to drop their source code as well? so that when they drop off the face of the earth someone can pick up their past work. kinda like how Dwarf companion creator Bart. helps out Sizeak on his version of his work, and the Dwarf therapist/Dfhack members work hard on getting those offsets updated for the next release.Actually - *IF* Toady wanted to do anything even remotely like support this - he would build in callable functions to the program. It would represent a change in design strategy - and could even lead to splitting the UI from the 'core' program which would in turn open the door for 3rd party graphical UIs. In other words - he wouldn't bother to support memory hacks, he'd go ahead and support data manipulation tools. Or he'd directly code in cheatie bits and side step the need for all this.Problem with this (same idea comes up every so often, prolly's been mentioned before in this thread) is that if you have 3rd parties maintaining the interfaces / 3rd party tools, what happens when DF significantly updates? The 3rd party tools have to update as well. If any of the maintainers looses interest, they we're immediately back to just the core game. Except people are going to want to blame Toady that their favorite 3rd party tool doesn't work...
Personally, I think it's worth the risk, but so far as I've heard, Toady doesn't. And in the end, it's really only his decision that matters. :)
Post by: telamon on February 25, 2011, 10:13:28 pm
Actually - *IF* Toady wanted to do anything even remotely like support this - he would build in callable functions to the program. It would represent a change in design strategy - and could even lead to splitting the UI from the 'core' program which would in turn open the door for 3rd party graphical UIs. In other words - he wouldn't bother to support memory hacks, he'd go ahead and support data manipulation tools. Or he'd directly code in cheatie bits and side step the need for all this.Problem with this (same idea comes up every so often, prolly's been mentioned before in this thread) is that if you have 3rd parties maintaining the interfaces / 3rd party tools, what happens when DF significantly updates? The 3rd party tools have to update as well.
WARNING: Programming rant
Well, if we want to get into programming paradigms... not exactly.
If there's anyone here (besides me) who programs in an object-oriented language, you'll know the concepts I'm thinking of. When a person writes a library or a chunk of code (at least following OOP paradigm), they try to separate interface from implementation. This means that they create a unified interface for the code that controls how the code's users will be able to access that code, and the people who will write stuff based on their code only need to know how to operate the interface. They don't need to know what steps the interface parts take to get the job done (the implementation that powers the interface); only the code writer need worry about that. By sealing the implementation off from the users of your code, you ensure that they can only access it in ways that you can control. This also means that, if you decide to change your code, the users of that code don't need to rewrite their programs, because your interface didn't change (even if the things that that interface does to your internal code have changed). Of course, sometimes the interface has to change to accommodate new stuff, and that's how it goes.
It's like driving a car. When you drive a car, you hop in, put on your seat belt, and then you have a series of controls to operate the car: steering wheel, pedals, various other systems, etc. You don't need to know the exact specs on the car, and who was responsible for milling the third piston cylinder in the engine block, because these things are irrelevant to you. All you need to know how to do is operate the car (its interface), and you trust that the car itself (the implementation) will do the rest. If the car maker decides to switch from one engine type to another (four stroke to two stroke, who knows), you don't need to learn a whole new way to drive a car and get a whole new license, as long as the old system can still operate this newly changed engine.
Of course, there are times when you will want to understand some of how the car works. If you need to move big cargo, for example, it's good to know how much torque your engine can output, because you need to know if you can move that stuff with the car. (This is like a sorting algorithm; the implementation of the sorting algorithm makes a big difference in speed.) And sometimes, you need to just do things from the ground up. A racecar driver probably has a team that builds the car with him/her, or contracts out special parts from manufacturers and assembles the car independently, because they need to optimize and perfect every little bit, to squeeze every drop of oomph out of their car. They can't afford to get some consumer car because the implementation, in such a case, is simply too important to let someone else handle it.
As an even more relevant example, look at DF itself. We don't have to care how DF works, as long as we know how to play. As long as Toady makes sure that certain keys have certain effects, we don't worry about how exactly he codes those functions of the game, because they do what we want. Toady can change the code itself, and as long as the controls are the same, we can still play the game. Of course, as new concepts are added to the game, new controls are added in for players to work with these elements, and these are things we have to learn. For example, back in the days of 2d DF, the leap to 3d DF was quite significant. *big* changes like this would obviously require a bit of a reboot.
In this case, we are worried about more than the interface, because we want to manipulate things that aren't available in the interface (that's the point of tools like Runesmith). In addition, we don't want DF to lag so much that it's unplayable, so we need to know "enough" about its code to be assured that, when we open up our fort, it won't crash instantly from the two thousand kittens we have wandering through it.
tl;dr Good programming for this kind of situation separates the interface from the implementation, so updates would not break the interface layers (unless they were truly groundbreaking updates, in which case it's justified). Maxima or Mathematica work in this way - you have a kernel underneath that does the work, and interchangeable interfaces for users to operate the kernel.
Of course, Toady has the last word, and if the system isn't already programmed to work like this, we're talking about an explosive revision - months of refactoring and re-engineering to code that (currently) works pretty well for the end user. Converting all your code to make it fit a whole new system is... an intense task, to say the least. It would be awesome if it happened; personally though I'd prefer that the game's arc development continue as it's going, because there's some interesting stuff coming up as I understand.
Just a rant from a semi-experienced hobbyist programmer.
Post by: Jay on February 25, 2011, 10:23:54 pm
Do not get me wrong - I loved Runesmith. It was an absolutely brilliant, and amazingly useful tool - especially for setting up a succession fort with dwarves for the players - or my favorite - turning a possession into a fey mood. But it is gone now - it wasn't Toady's masterpiece, and there is no reason to expect Toady to devote any of his time to Runesmith.Why are you saying this in the past tense?
It's not dead, just can't be updated until we have working offsets.
Quote from: sizeak, previous page
Also: Runesmith isn't dead at all, it's just missing offsets for the newer versions. I just play .16 instead personally since it works fine with it :D
Post by: Truean on February 26, 2011, 04:51:49 am
Do not get me wrong - I loved Runesmith. It was an absolutely brilliant, and amazingly useful tool - especially for setting up a succession fort with dwarves for the players - or my favorite - turning a possession into a fey mood. But it is gone now - it wasn't Toady's masterpiece, and there is no reason to expect Toady to devote any of his time to Runesmith.Why are you saying this in the past tense?
It's not dead, just can't be updated until we have working offsets.Quote from: sizeak, previous pageAlso: Runesmith isn't dead at all, it's just missing offsets for the newer versions. I just play .16 instead personally since it works fine with it :D
Yeah, that's like calling all utilities dead. Stonesense isn't dead; DFHack isn't dead; this isn't dead. Just because it doesn't have "pop-in-the-microwave" ready to eat timing doesn't mean it's dead. Free. Hell, with twitter, I know people too lazy to read past the second line of this post. They suck, and by definition won't know to be offended. :P
Post by: telamon on March 04, 2011, 06:13:46 pm
Post by: Dreggon on March 05, 2011, 03:56:16 am
Post by: sizeak on March 05, 2011, 08:32:48 am
The download link has been updated to the new version but I haven't tested all the offsets yet!
Post by: peterix on March 05, 2011, 11:00:25 am
Awesome.Let me know if there's anything wrong :)
Post by: Jay on March 05, 2011, 12:00:20 pm
FAKE-EDIT: I should test it without my mods.
EDIT: Works fine in vanilla.
EDIT2: Bah, now it's working on the modded version too. ???
EDIT3: In any case, Runesmith crashes when you try to edit moods.
Post by: Truean on March 05, 2011, 12:57:18 pm
Post by: BigD145 on March 05, 2011, 01:10:01 pm
Thank you to those who update these programs; we enjoy them greatly. :)
Yes, we do.
Post by: Dreggon on March 05, 2011, 07:02:39 pm
Happened with 31.18 version, and same thing with 31.19 when I imported.
EDIT: Alright, it works with a new world gen for 31.19, so thank you for updating! Just one question: how do you remove traits? I can add them, but removing... no.
Post by: Firnagzen on March 05, 2011, 08:46:40 pm
Now, arise, my zombie army.
Post by: sizeak on March 05, 2011, 11:00:30 pm
SHM access denied :(
Happened with 31.18 version, and same thing with 31.19 when I imported.
EDIT: Alright, it works with a new world gen for 31.19, so thank you for updating! Just one question: how do you remove traits? I can add them, but removing... no.
You can also edit them by double clicking on them. I seem to have missed the remove feature :o
Post by: Rumrusher on March 05, 2011, 11:12:38 pm
Thank you very much, sizeak!I work on zombies with Dfusion even made them follow you in adventure mode and slap on a repeater so the game search for new corpses. Though Runesmith might help out on the Civ issue I have with them.
Now, arise, my zombie army.
Post by: Thundercraft on March 06, 2011, 12:45:24 am
The only reason I can think of for a 3rd party tool stopping a new release is if vitally important functionality was left to 3rd party developers. As long as Toady continued to do his own thing and not rely on 3rd party tools for fancy GUI interfaces or other things to make the game work, this should be a non-issue.Actually - *IF* Toady wanted to do anything even remotely like support this - he would build in callable functions to the program. It would represent a change in design strategy - and could even lead to splitting the UI from the 'core' program which would in turn open the door for 3rd party graphical UIs. In other words - he wouldn't bother to support memory hacks, he'd go ahead and support data manipulation tools. Or he'd directly code in cheatie bits and side step the need for all this.Problem with this... is that if you have 3rd parties maintaining the interfaces / 3rd party tools, what happens when DF significantly updates? The 3rd party tools have to update as well. If any of the maintainers looses interest, they we're immediately back to just the core game. Except people are going to want to blame Toady that their favorite 3rd party tool doesn't work...
Yes, if 3rd party support was implemented there would be some degree of blame laid on Toady for certain 3rd party tools not working with the latest release. Not to mention all the added pressure this would entail and extra effort trying to coordinate stuff with tool maintainers. Those are pretty good reasons and I can see why he does not want to add callable functions or any sort of support for 3rd party tools.
Still, with the way thing are now 3rd party tools rely almost entirely on DFHack. It works pretty good right now. But, just for the sake of argument, what if (heaven forbid) something happened and DFHack could no longer be updated? Where would that leave all those 3rd party tools?
Post by: blaize9 on March 06, 2011, 01:18:18 am
Also i cant get the traits to stay.
Post by: Urist McFumbler on March 06, 2011, 05:43:56 am
Look what just came out.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Stormrage on March 06, 2011, 10:21:49 am
Can't you keep up with Today's releases? I'm tired of waiting!!!
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: rephikul on March 06, 2011, 10:24:33 am
Post by: sizeak on March 06, 2011, 10:25:48 am
31.20 compatible version, f***ing when?
Can't you keep up with Today's releases? I'm tired of waiting!!!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
:D I'm saving .20 compatibility for release a day before .21 comes out
Post by: telamon on March 06, 2011, 11:56:56 am
And I laughed when i saw the .20 release. Best timing ever. (no offense to toady or anyone else, more releases = good)
Post by: Lysabild on March 06, 2011, 11:57:26 am
31.20 compatible version, f***ing when?
Can't you keep up with Today's releases? I'm tired of waiting!!!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
:D I'm saving .20 compatibility for release a day before .21 comes out
You are forcing us to use old versions!! D:
Post by: Rumrusher on March 06, 2011, 04:06:22 pm
don't worry Gearbox will pick this up and remake it.31.20 compatible version, f***ing when?
Can't you keep up with Today's releases? I'm tired of waiting!!!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
:D I'm saving .20 compatibility for release a day before .21 comes out
You are forcing us to use old versions!! D:
Post by: darkedone02 on March 06, 2011, 05:18:36 pm
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on March 06, 2011, 05:26:18 pm
Edit: Oh no, it's got cool shit as well. ):
Post by: arzzult on March 06, 2011, 07:13:18 pm
31.20 compatible version, f***ing when?
Can't you keep up with Today's releases? I'm tired of waiting!!!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
:D I'm saving .20 compatibility for release a day before .21 comes out
You might want to start working fast then, .20 was taken down due to a major crash bug and .21 is probably going to be out soon.
Post by: Raufgar on March 06, 2011, 11:49:47 pm
31.20 compatible version, f***ing when?
Can't you keep up with Today's releases? I'm tired of waiting!!!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
:D I'm saving .20 compatibility for release a day before .21 comes out
It just did :D
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2011, 04:16:10 pm
Post by: meeneque on March 08, 2011, 12:17:40 am
FWIW, copying dfhack.dll and Memory.xml (and renaming it Memory-ng.xml) from the latest dfhack binaries seems to work for .21 compatibility. Do this at your own risk, however.
Thanks bro. Works as a charm.
Post by: Makbeth on March 08, 2011, 12:30:49 am
31.20 compatible version, f***ing when?
Can't you keep up with Today's releases? I'm tired of waiting!!!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I dunno, that's quite an assumption there ;)
Post by: sizeak on March 09, 2011, 01:16:55 pm
Post by: Stormrage on March 09, 2011, 01:42:34 pm
Version 0.1.19 released for compatibility with DF 0.31.21
Finally! Geez, If I had to wait any longer, I just don't know what would I've done...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: sizeak on March 09, 2011, 01:49:21 pm
Post by: Thundercraft on March 09, 2011, 03:34:23 pm
Does it not work on 31.21?
The old XML file? Haven't tried it. The off-sets usually change with each version, though. v31.21 isn't listed in the current XML as a supported version, so dfprospector refuses to start.
Offsets seem to be the same this time around. Try adding this:Code: [Select]<Version name="v0.31.21 SDL" os="windows" base="v0.31.20 SDL" >
<PETimeStamp value="0x4D743DA7" />
<MD5 value="3aadcbd781f7d70d5ee552b92c03bc6b" />
</Version>
Post by: sizeak on March 10, 2011, 04:48:03 am
It sounds like the pointers in .21 and .20 were identical. The main reason why using the memory.xml for .20 did not work was because it did not recognize .21 as a valid Dwarf Fortress version number.Does it not work on 31.21?
The old XML file? Haven't tried it. The off-sets usually change with each version, though. v31.21 isn't listed in the current XML as a supported version, so dfprospector refuses to start.Offsets seem to be the same this time around. Try adding this:Code: [Select]<Version name="v0.31.21 SDL" os="windows" base="v0.31.20 SDL" >
<PETimeStamp value="0x4D743DA7" />
<MD5 value="3aadcbd781f7d70d5ee552b92c03bc6b" />
</Version>
We know
Post by: TowerWizard on March 10, 2011, 05:39:20 am
Edit: It may be that Norton just has a thing for small, unproven programs. The main issue seems to be that very few Norton users have the program.
Post by: arzzult on March 10, 2011, 05:59:46 am
I hate to do this, bu my Norton Security Alert utility named Sonar reports "mysterious behavior" from Runesmith and promptly uninstalls it, and ask me to restart the computer to remove all security risks. I downloaded it from the main download page. Anyone else have similar problems?
Edit: It may be that Norton just has a thing for small, unproven programs. The main issue seems to be that very few Norton users have the program.
I think I know what your problem is. You are using Norton. Norton = Mal-ware that you have to pay for imo. I'd find some other security software if I were you.
Post by: Sabin Stargem on March 10, 2011, 06:28:55 am
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jotti's malware scan:0 of 20 (http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/f9404481839348e2cc35e4f5605d40db1968f2bf)
no virus thanks: 0 of 9 (http://novirusthanks.org)
Post by: Jay on March 10, 2011, 03:45:59 pm
Terrible scanners just replace actual proper functionality with that "if it's not signed, it must be bad, durrhurr" crap.
Post by: telamon on March 10, 2011, 04:21:03 pm
In any case, relax. Runesmith has a community behind it, and people are always the best defense. A thread doesn't get to 68 pages when it's about a virus-infested utility, unless all 68 pages are of enraged DF players. (which they definitely are not because runesmith is awesome)
Post by: sizeak on March 10, 2011, 07:04:08 pm
Probably, it would be flagged as a virus because it's editing the runtime data and memory of DF. It's easy to mistake that for messing with a program's execution in a malicious way. If anyone plays starcraft mods, it's the same thing.:D
In any case, relax. Runesmith has a community behind it, and people are always the best defense. A thread doesn't get to 68 pages when it's about a virus-infested utility, unless all 68 pages are of enraged DF players. (which they definitely are not because runesmith is awesome)
Post by: darius on March 10, 2011, 07:18:52 pm
Post by: Jeoshua on March 10, 2011, 09:08:29 pm
Post by: peterix on March 10, 2011, 10:27:02 pm
Norton Antivirus constantly tears my utilities to shreds. They're all flagged as "High Risk" since they edit memory. And I know at least 4 of you people out there have run Overseer and had the same thing happen. Norton tells me so.Well, it treats you like an idiot if it won't let you whitelist things.
Post by: Jeoshua on March 10, 2011, 10:37:16 pm
So really it just makes me want to kill someone, instead of making me redownload and uninstall Norton.
Post by: BigD145 on March 10, 2011, 11:56:34 pm
Norton Antivirus constantly tears my utilities to shreds. They're all flagged as "High Risk" since they edit memory. And I know at least 4 of you people out there have run Overseer and had the same thing happen. Norton tells me so.
Delete Norton and let's get back to important Runesmith talk that's actually important.
Post by: Jeoshua on March 11, 2011, 12:24:10 am
Post by: arzzult on March 11, 2011, 01:33:05 am
Yes. Thank you for all these nifty Dwarfy Tools. I shall put them togoodethically questionable use.
Fix'd that for ya.
Any way, many spanks for such a wonderful set of tools to (ab)use.
Post by: MaximumZero on March 12, 2011, 12:13:12 am
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on March 12, 2011, 04:28:57 am
Post by: Jeoshua on March 12, 2011, 10:45:26 am
I spent about 2 hours using a 14-embark edit of the game, starting a new embark. I jotted down everyone's personalities, attributes, and a few likes. I found out who would be good for leadership, who sucks, and who is going to be my miner. It was all very thorough. I finally get to number 14. I'm proud of myself.
Then the unthinkable happens... I hit 'e' prematurely. None of my dwarves have skills.
I feel like I've almost gotten to know these dwarves! And after using dfreveal I found that this site is absolutely FILTHY with hematite, magnitite, cobaltite, truesilver (I'm using a mod for this), and various other rare and/or valuable ores.
Would it be too much to ask for Runesmith to actually allow me to SET my dorf's skills?
Post by: Jay on March 12, 2011, 11:19:50 am
Would it be too much to ask for Runesmith to actually allow me to SET my dorf's skills?Nope, it would not, because it can already do that.
Click on the level rating for that skill in that dwarf's list and it'll allow you to edit the levels by number.
Keep in mind, though, that the dwarf has to have finished at least one job in that skill before it shows up in the list.
Unlike Dwarf Companion (that poor poor dead tool) this cannot give your dwarfs new skills.
Use Therapist (or the ingame interface if you're a masochist) to give them the labor, have them complete one job, then edit them up to where you meant them to be.
EDIT: VERY VERY minor: LICENCE.txt => LICENSE.txt
Post by: Jeoshua on March 12, 2011, 11:25:04 am
Seems like an oversight in the tool to me. Still, good to know. I'm off to repair the ruins of what is with this tool. So glad it exists.
Post by: Thundercraft on March 12, 2011, 12:48:29 pm
So they must already be dabbling to have the skill set ::)
Seems like an oversight in the tool to me.
I agree. Why not allow players this option? I can think of several reasons why adding new skills without going through said process is highly desirable. Of course, if adding such ability is complex or technically difficult, then it's understandable why it's missing.
But since Dwarf Companion had this functionality, we at least know it is possible. (That is, unless something changed in recent versions to make it impossible.)
Post by: Greiger on March 12, 2011, 03:38:25 pm
Of course as I said many times in the past, I don't actually know for sure. I don't mess with memory. All I did was take 2 semesters of programming.
As for DC I don't remember it being capable of it either. But it's been what, a year since DC last worked? 2 years? I might be remembering it wrong.
Post by: Miko19 on March 12, 2011, 03:41:56 pm
Post by: Jay on March 12, 2011, 04:22:06 pm
As for DC I don't remember it being capable of it either. But it's been what, a year since DC last worked? 2 years? I might be remembering it wrong.It could.
But so much has changed in that regard that its implementation would be useless to try to port.
Seriously, it's not like performing a SINGLE JOB in the skill is impossibly hard or anything.
Post by: Taricus on March 12, 2011, 04:30:23 pm
Post by: Jeoshua on March 12, 2011, 05:44:18 pm
I'm still in the planning stages, since this will be a very challenging embark (1 dog, 2 cats, 2 picks, 2 axes... the standard setup). Even if I cheat the skills in I need a good plan to make this fort work.
So you're saying I could tell everyone to mine and cut down trees, or whatever, then simply change the mining and tree cutting skills? That's brilliant.
Post by: Taricus on March 12, 2011, 05:45:27 pm
Post by: Jeoshua on March 12, 2011, 05:46:30 pm
Post by: Jay on March 12, 2011, 09:31:18 pm
Yep, I've seen it too.That was Companion, again.
Runesmith does not allow you to change the skills themselves, although I don't know the reasoning behind it.
Post by: Taricus on March 12, 2011, 09:33:45 pm
Post by: Jay on March 12, 2011, 09:36:36 pm
You could actually, you just need a skill to change first.Go actually try it and get back to me on that.
Post by: Taricus on March 12, 2011, 09:37:32 pm
EDIT: I stand corrected.
Post by: sizeak on March 12, 2011, 10:51:40 pm
Post by: Jay on March 12, 2011, 10:54:09 pm
Adding new skills is not supported because I didn't want to encroach on DT's territory.Err, what? DT does labors, not skills. Runesmith already does that too anyway?
Adding new skills in this case would be editing the actual skill level, which is certainly something DT doesn't do.
Also, mood editing is still mostly broken.
I was able to change a secretive mood to a fey mood successfully, but I haven't tested others.
It does not seem to be able to grab the materials requested at all, and trying to change the skill crashes Runesmith.
Post by: sizeak on March 13, 2011, 08:21:37 am
Post by: Jeoshua on March 13, 2011, 05:08:15 pm
At some point my legendary miner (one of the orig 7) decides he's going to have a mood.... a mood for wool. Suffice to say I have no wool. So open up runesmith and set his mood from "Fey" to "None".
Urist McMiner has canceled mood: Needs wool thread.
TADAH!!! And my miner doesn't have to go crazy.
Post by: sizeak on March 13, 2011, 06:53:24 pm
I just want to say thanks. This utility just saved my behind. I'm still playing on the embark where I accidentally started without taking anything with me or picking any skills for my starting seven. As of this point, 6 of the 7 are still alive. The 7th was killed while taking a nap by a kobold thief with a *<*dagger*>* who accidentally tripped over him ( >:( ).
At some point my legendary miner (one of the orig 7) decides he's going to have a mood.... a mood for wool. Suffice to say I have no wool. So open up runesmith and set his mood from "Fey" to "None".
Urist McMiner has canceled mood: Needs wool thread.
TADAH!!! And my miner doesn't have to go crazy.
Welcome to intermediate Runesmith usage :D
Post by: Jeoshua on March 13, 2011, 09:33:54 pm
Post by: sizeak on March 14, 2011, 12:02:03 am
I also genocided Carp... nothing more annoying than a carnivorous fish that shouldn't eat anything larger than... well... a fish. Good feature, and I'm almost positive I'm using it 100% as intended.
nearly 100%, I had cats in mind at the time...
Post by: darkedone02 on March 14, 2011, 12:06:57 am
Post by: sizeak on March 14, 2011, 12:14:38 am
B) I bet you are using legacy. If so, DFHack only supports SDL versions
Post by: darkedone02 on March 14, 2011, 12:19:09 am
A) It's Runesmith...
B) I bet you are using legacy. If so, DFHack only supports SDL versions
No, i'm not using Legacy, i'm playing on the Wasteland mod.
Post by: Rumrusher on March 14, 2011, 03:43:29 am
Post by: sizeak on March 14, 2011, 07:10:37 am
didn't toady add more to the creature flags? Will RS get an update to that function?
I'm not sure if DFHack has been updated
Post by: darkedone02 on March 14, 2011, 06:20:32 pm
Post by: Jeoshua on March 14, 2011, 09:00:34 pm
Possibly because I am using dwarves, even tho there are a lot of modifications to everything.
Does Runesmith look for the current creature race in the game? Or [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]
Post by: Greiger on March 14, 2011, 09:09:27 pm
I use DRACON and it finds my half dragon race just fine.
Post by: Landstradd on March 16, 2011, 10:22:05 am
Post by: Greiger on March 16, 2011, 01:46:55 pm
Would it be possible to sort the list based on skill levels? I often use Runesmith to find a dwarf with a particular skill when I know I have one, but don't remember who it was. Runesmith makes this much faster than looking through the unit list one at a time, but it would be even faster if there was some sort button I could push, enter a skill, and then magically have all the dwarves with that skill at the top of the list.
...and if I'm an idiot and it's already possible could somebody tell me how?
Post by: Rumrusher on March 16, 2011, 10:15:47 pm
I don't suppose you take feature requests do you?doesn't therapist have that function?
Would it be possible to sort the list based on skill levels? I often use Runesmith to find a dwarf with a particular skill when I know I have one, but don't remember who it was. Runesmith makes this much faster than looking through the unit list one at a time, but it would be even faster if there was some sort button I could push, enter a skill, and then magically have all the dwarves with that skill at the top of the list.
...and if I'm an idiot and it's already possible could somebody tell me how?
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2011, 05:03:44 am
Post by: Zinic on March 17, 2011, 06:17:37 am
I figure it's mainly a problem with dfhack not having the accurate address for happiness, or maybe it's related to the way tantrums work. Tried this on both dwarves that were currently throwing tantrums and ones who hadn't yet.
It was caused by an ambush that killed a couple of dwarves, so it may just be that dwarves that have lost loved ones or seen friends die are unable to improve their happiness.
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2011, 06:18:34 am
Post by: Zinic on March 17, 2011, 06:42:40 am
It's due to the way DF itself works actually
Fair enough, won't mention it again then. Guess it's time to reload. :P
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2011, 06:55:52 am
Post by: Zinic on March 17, 2011, 07:06:06 am
Sometimes it sticks for a while, but not always. I'm not really sure why, I think it's because if the source of their unhappiness is still affecting them it will make them unhappy again very quickly
That's my theory as well, making the option to edit happiness a bit useless.
On a different matter though, is there a way to tag something as dead or killed and keep them in the game world? Noticed that the dead tag will remove dwarves from the world and Runesmith, but make them remain in memory (making them appear in DT). Maybe an option that directly kills the unit instead would be more useful and make items not go to waste. Just a suggestion though (could also help you deal with situations like tantrum spirals).
I may just be ignorant in the ways of the dwarf. :P
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2011, 07:42:18 am
Post by: Rumrusher on March 17, 2011, 08:31:38 am
And maybe if anyone understood the wounds system in DF2010 then we'd do thatuhh well we over at Dfusion made a cheap DC version of the hurt/heal system but from others up limbs and might lead to a case of suffocation (or not work at all?) but I fixed that recently.From what I understood it's the same as DC but chances are the wounds leave scars so fixing a cut will only fix the limb but the description of the cut will be added to the creature and through time will become a scar. so my best luck is until I attempt to get a dead dwarf and rez which on it self was a flipping chore back in 40d.
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2011, 08:59:36 am
Post by: Brandon816 on March 19, 2011, 08:59:30 am
Post by: Rumrusher on March 19, 2011, 10:13:01 am
My guess looking at DFusion's heal system and how it interacts with the wounded would be that individual wounds are stored in an array somewhere, divided up similarly to how they look in the health screen.Descriptions screen as well, some times you can heal a head wound but still get the gushing cut memo or make their heads disappear causing their hats hoods and caps to fall off and they seem to be to not notice at all. So my hurt code more likely "a strip clothes from their bodies and get more loot from merchants that come in" code. So who wants a function that causes goblins/elves to dash towards you not noticing that their clothes and weapons are gone?
Post by: mud074 on March 19, 2011, 10:12:37 pm
EDIT: When I open the zip file it says some files are corrupted, if that helps any.
Post by: Exlo on March 20, 2011, 09:01:33 am
Post by: sir_laser on March 24, 2011, 04:29:32 pm
And the most annoying thing is that this update is also highly desirable, as the Healthcare bugs have been (mostly) fixed.
Post by: BigD145 on March 24, 2011, 05:22:57 pm
OMG 31.22 >:(
And the most annoying thing is that this update is also highly desirable, as the Healthcare bugs have been (mostly) fixed.
*baps laser on the nose*
Stop that. 31.22 just came out. Be a bit more patient.
Post by: sir_laser on March 24, 2011, 06:13:38 pm
OMG 31.22 >:(
And the most annoying thing is that this update is also highly desirable, as the Healthcare bugs have been (mostly) fixed.
*baps laser on the nose*
Stop that. 31.22 just came out. Be a bit more patient.
I'm not complaining to people about Runesmith's current incompatibility, just the luck of things.
"FINALLY we have offsets from DFHack to make Runesmith compatible w/ 31.21!"
Then Toady says no :'(
Post by: Jay on March 24, 2011, 06:31:57 pm
"FINALLY we have offsets from DFHack to make Runesmith compatible w/ 31.21!"Uh, what?
We've had them since the day .21 came out.
Post by: sir_laser on March 24, 2011, 06:47:16 pm
"FINALLY we have offsets from DFHack to make Runesmith compatible w/ 31.21!"Uh, what?
We've had them since the day .21 came out.
Yeah, but how long did we have to wait for that update from 31.16?
Post by: Jeoshua on March 24, 2011, 06:56:12 pm
And if you were paying me and demanding that much out of me a few hours after it was even POSSIBLE to do it?
I'd quit on you.
Post by: sir_laser on March 24, 2011, 07:06:02 pm
... and the .20 update came out what... a few days later? Maybe a week? Seriuosly, chill out.... it's not like you're paying this guy to do it.
And if you were paying me and demanding that much out of me a few hours after it was even POSSIBLE to do it?
I'd quit on you.
I apologize to everyone involved in this if I sounded demanding. Not trying to force anything from this, just expressing my frustration at the timing of things (31.22 getting released quite soon after Runesmith just becoming compatible with 31.21).
Post by: Makbeth on March 24, 2011, 08:36:50 pm
"FINALLY we have offsets from DFHack to make Runesmith compatible w/ 31.21!"
Then Toady says no :'(
What the hell, laser? A new version coming out doesn't affect prior versions, or their utilities, at all. You can keep right on playing 31.21 to your heart's content. You haven't lost anything, and Toady certainly hasn't said "no".
Seriously, what the hell?
Just wait a while. The long dry spell after 31.16 had a lot to do with the fact that Peterix and Sizeak had other things to do at the time. That's not going to happen every time, and I'm actually a bit surprised that the lack of gratitude or understanding from some people hasn't driven them away from further development in disgust.
If I were using my spare time to do this, I'd probably have begun PMing the more patient users with links to the utilities rather than posting them publicly by now. But Peterix and Sizeak are better, more hardworking, and less bitter people than me.
Post by: Jay on March 24, 2011, 08:40:45 pm
Although I think an update is necessary at this point, because DFHack's API changed recently.
Post by: Jeoshua on March 24, 2011, 08:43:29 pm
0.31.22 is buggy enough it'll get a quick bugfix. DFHack needs a full update in the meantime, then fixed offsets when .23 comes out. In the meantime, all the mod and utility makers can work on the updates to their respective files. No new features will be added in .23, and if they are they'll be very minor.
So my suggestion to everyone is to just go back to .21 for a week and .23 will come out with pretty much everything it needs right behind it.
Post by: sir_laser on March 24, 2011, 09:12:22 pm
"FINALLY we have offsets from DFHack to make Runesmith compatible w/ 31.21!"
Then Toady says no :'(
What the hell, laser? A new version coming out doesn't affect prior versions, or their utilities, at all. You can keep right on playing 31.21 to your heart's content. You haven't lost anything, and Toady certainly hasn't said "no".
Seriously, what the hell?
Just wait a while. The long dry spell after 31.16 had a lot to do with the fact that Peterix and Sizeak had other things to do at the time. That's not going to happen every time, and I'm actually a bit surprised that the lack of gratitude or understanding from some people hasn't driven them away from further development in disgust.
If I were using my spare time to do this, I'd probably have begun PMing the more patient users with links to the utilities rather than posting them publicly by now. But Peterix and Sizeak are better, more hardworking, and less bitter people than me.
I suppose sarcasm doesn't carry across the internet very well.
It all fits together nicely.
0.31.22 is buggy enough it'll get a quick bugfix. DFHack needs a full update in the meantime, then fixed offsets when .23 comes out. In the meantime, all the mod and utility makers can work on the updates to their respective files. No new features will be added in .23, and if they are they'll be very minor.
So my suggestion to everyone is to just go back to .21 for a week and .23 will come out with pretty much everything it needs right behind it.
That's a great suggestion. Thank you.
Post by: Jeoshua on March 24, 2011, 09:16:43 pm
See that's sarcasm that carries ;)
Post by: Makbeth on March 24, 2011, 09:46:53 pm
"FINALLY we have offsets from DFHack to make Runesmith compatible w/ 31.21!"
Then Toady says no :'(
What the hell, laser? A new version coming out doesn't affect prior versions, or their utilities, at all. You can keep right on playing 31.21 to your heart's content. You haven't lost anything, and Toady certainly hasn't said "no".
Seriously, what the hell?
Just wait a while. The long dry spell after 31.16 had a lot to do with the fact that Peterix and Sizeak had other things to do at the time. That's not going to happen every time, and I'm actually a bit surprised that the lack of gratitude or understanding from some people hasn't driven them away from further development in disgust.
If I were using my spare time to do this, I'd probably have begun PMing the more patient users with links to the utilities rather than posting them publicly by now. But Peterix and Sizeak are better, more hardworking, and less bitter people than me.
I suppose sarcasm doesn't carry across the internet very well.
I guess not. There have been dozens of people in this thread and others making real comments very much like yours, so it's not really a good place for ambiguity. I've learned to just use /sarcasm "tags" for that reason.
I apologize for getting all RAWR! at your comment.
Post by: peterix on March 24, 2011, 09:58:44 pm
Try it. I know for sure that some of the things are wrong -- I'd like to know how wrong they are so I can fix them :)
Post by: BigD145 on March 24, 2011, 10:03:42 pm
Not unless you're REALLY, REALLY thick with it. Jeez, what do you want from text. Ugh, god. So useless I might poop.
See that's sarcasm that carries ;)
The majority of the intent put behind text does not come across. This has been studied.
Post by: Jeoshua on March 24, 2011, 10:19:11 pm
You're an idiot
Doesn't go over well, people think you're serious
You r teh stoopidz
Goes over fine since nobody is offended at being called stupid by one who is obviously too dumb to spell properly, making it a joke, making it funny, making it socially acceptable.
Never thought I'd hear a coherent argument FOR lolspeekz, least of which from my own self!
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on March 25, 2011, 04:16:11 am
Not unless you're REALLY, REALLY thick with it. Jeez, what do you want from text. Ugh, god. So useless I might poop.
See that's sarcasm that carries ;)
I lol'd heartily
Post by: mud074 on March 26, 2011, 05:02:32 pm
Post by: BigD145 on March 26, 2011, 05:08:35 pm
Post by: mud074 on March 26, 2011, 06:07:29 pm
Post by: sizeak on March 26, 2011, 07:12:48 pm
Post by: Makbeth on March 26, 2011, 07:23:45 pm
I redownloaded about 10 times, I have both winrar and alzip.
That reminds me of issues I had with my onboard firewall back in '06. the nForce active protection or whatever it was called kept scrambling every download I made; even images wouldn't load correctly in their own native web pages. Might want to do a bit of research and see if that's a problem with whatever firewall/malware protection you're using, especially if it's from nVidia. They make decent hardware, but their history with software is approaching being a crime against humanity.
Post by: mud074 on March 26, 2011, 07:26:45 pm
Post by: Makbeth on March 26, 2011, 07:35:40 pm
Post by: mud074 on March 26, 2011, 08:45:59 pm
anybody know what that means?
Post by: seanb on March 27, 2011, 11:51:34 am
Post by: devek on March 27, 2011, 12:03:59 pm
EDIT: Nevermind. I accidentally deleted my savegame, so i'm starting over anyway.
I read your post before you edited it, and for some reason this made me chuckle. Am I a bad person?
Post by: seanb on March 27, 2011, 12:32:18 pm
Post by: SombreNote on March 27, 2011, 03:00:58 pm
Post by: Makbeth on March 27, 2011, 03:42:33 pm
Really wish RS could set the whiny little brats on fire.
And I use it for killing off cats.
And occasionally to detect ambushes I suspect might be coming.
Post by: PCpaste on March 27, 2011, 03:45:38 pm
Post by: Krelos on March 27, 2011, 04:05:53 pm
Soon, I'm sure.
Post by: mud074 on March 27, 2011, 05:44:53 pm
I got it working, but when I try to connect, it says "SHM ACCESS DENIED"
anybody know what that means?
bumpbecauseofnoanswers.
Post by: seanb on March 27, 2011, 07:40:35 pm
and you arn't 'bumping' anything when there are active conersations going on.
Post by: bertieb on March 28, 2011, 02:17:00 pm
I use it to give my military a couple levels in fighting skills, since training is so cripplingly slow and they get whittled down faster than they get trained up, even with armor. That, and they throw hissy fits if they are on duty too long.
A danger room trains dwarves sickeningly fast.
Post by: Krelos on March 28, 2011, 02:24:17 pm
If you make the danger room double as the barracks, so they spend all their time there, you can get dwarves that are legendary in (weapon), dodging, fighting, armor and shield in a year or two.I use it to give my military a couple levels in fighting skills, since training is so cripplingly slow and they get whittled down faster than they get trained up, even with armor. That, and they throw hissy fits if they are on duty too long.
A danger room trains dwarves sickeningly fast.
At that point they're pretty much invulnerable to most normal weaponry.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on March 29, 2011, 02:10:02 am
If you make the danger room double as the barracks, so they spend all their time there, you can get dwarves that are legendary in (weapon), dodging, fighting, armor and shield in a year or two.I use it to give my military a couple levels in fighting skills, since training is so cripplingly slow and they get whittled down faster than they get trained up, even with armor. That, and they throw hissy fits if they are on duty too long.
A danger room trains dwarves sickeningly fast.
At that point they're pretty much invulnerable to most normal weaponry.
Or you could just cheat to do it instantly, seeing as how you're exploiting the game either way.
Post by: GamerKnight on March 29, 2011, 02:20:00 am
Post by: Makbeth on March 29, 2011, 03:48:45 am
If you make the danger room double as the barracks, so they spend all their time there, you can get dwarves that are legendary in (weapon), dodging, fighting, armor and shield in a year or two.I use it to give my military a couple levels in fighting skills, since training is so cripplingly slow and they get whittled down faster than they get trained up, even with armor. That, and they throw hissy fits if they are on duty too long.
A danger room trains dwarves sickeningly fast.
At that point they're pretty much invulnerable to most normal weaponry.
Or you could just cheat to do it instantly, seeing as how you're exploiting the game either way.
Now there's an interesting question. If an exploit is being used to make up for an oversight in the game's mechanics, is it really an exploit?
Whether the military is really supposed to train that slowly is very subjective of course, but considering how fast a squad of six went legendary in 40d, (usually less than a year, as I recall) I'm guessing that it's supposed to be at least a little bit faster than it is now.
Post by: OmnipotentGrue on March 29, 2011, 04:48:15 am
If an exploit is being used, is it really an exploit?
Mmmmmmm... yes? :P
Still, I don't think that military skills go up that slow, and technically if you're going to have your dwarves sit in a room doing nothing until they become legendary it doesn't seem much different from using Runesmith (barring the time it takes, of course).
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 29, 2011, 05:02:07 am
Post by: meowmix on March 29, 2011, 07:07:57 am
Post by: Makbeth on March 29, 2011, 04:01:46 pm
If an exploit is being used, is it really an exploit?
Mmmmmmm... yes? :P
Still, I don't think that military skills go up that slow, and technically if you're going to have your dwarves sit in a room doing nothing until they become legendary it doesn't seem much different from using Runesmith (barring the time it takes, of course).
If something I said is quoted, but my words are edited so they mean something else, am I still being quoted?
Post by: Eldrick Tobin on March 29, 2011, 04:31:27 pm
If an exploit is being used, is it really an exploit?
Mmmmmmm... yes? :P
Still, I don't think that military skills go up that slow, and technically if you're going to have your dwarves sit in a room doing nothing until they become legendary it doesn't seem much different from using Runesmith (barring the time it takes, of course).
If something I said is quoted, but my words are edited so they mean something else, am I still being quoted?
Nope!
And to the poster above him... Mood Editing is having a Mood(crashes). Got a Fey Mood needing thread... with !Mining! as the Labor... tried to switch to metalcrafting... and boom(crash). As for material editing... that's likely not remotely in... I tried everything ... in Runesmith and in game. Rabid Weaver still happened. Had to snuff him in Runesmith.
Post by: meowmix on March 29, 2011, 06:02:25 pm
Post by: Treason on March 29, 2011, 07:49:29 pm
well the front page says that mood material editing is supported in runesmith but i cannot figure out how to use it.
As has been explained, altering moods is broken. ANYTHING having to do with it, besides the aforementioned dead dwarf. No current fix in sight.
Post by: Makbeth on March 29, 2011, 07:53:26 pm
Mood Editing is having a Mood(crashes). Got a Fey Mood needing thread... with !Mining! as the Labor... tried to switch to metalcrafting... and boom(crash). As for material editing... that's likely not remotely in... I tried everything ... in Runesmith and in game. Rabid Weaver still happened. Had to snuff him in Runesmith.
I say starve the little runt. That's what he gets for staking his sanity on impossible conditions, like a mayor that wants slade puzzleboxes. Bullshit like that is not tolerated in my forts.
Post by: dagger on March 30, 2011, 04:23:47 pm
Does it look like it has?
Soon, I'm sure.
I hope so, I love this tool, its the greatest thing since sliced bread. :D
Post by: Viken on March 30, 2011, 05:55:21 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on March 30, 2011, 06:34:24 pm
this is where notepad, DFMODE and knowledge of raws helps.
Mood Editing is having a Mood(crashes). Got a Fey Mood needing thread... with !Mining! as the Labor... tried to switch to metalcrafting... and boom(crash). As for material editing... that's likely not remotely in... I tried everything ... in Runesmith and in game. Rabid Weaver still happened. Had to snuff him in Runesmith.
I say starve the little runt. That's what he gets for staking his sanity on impossible conditions, like a mayor that wants slade puzzleboxes. Bullshit like that is not tolerated in my forts.
If a mayor, or Fay person ask for something you don't have like a puzzlebox made out of slade you go and edit the knapping reaction to produce a slade puzzlebox and throw it at the mayor/Fay's face then swap back to fort mode.
Post by: Corbine on March 30, 2011, 06:54:24 pm
Heads up for dfhack, take the xml from here and put it in the runesmith folder and rename it to memory-ng.xml to get runesmith to work. Well, seems to work, haven't gotten any errors so far.
Post by: dagger on March 31, 2011, 10:23:46 am
Post by: seanb on March 31, 2011, 08:46:16 pm
EDIT: meh... okay doesn't work perfectly, but it will get the job done. MIght need to restart it once in a while.
Post by: peterix on March 31, 2011, 09:47:42 pm
Works Perfect! To clarify, look for the exact .xml file someone posted a link to, don't go grabbing a copy of DF hack and looking for the file. Remember to do the rename mentioned above.Well, I wish I could test Runesmith directly. But, try this file instead: https://github.com/peterix/dfhack/raw/bbf64a1614ca8ffddca889cd60da4c3d0d25fa77/Memory.xml
EDIT: meh... okay doesn't work perfectly, but it will get the job done. MIght need to restart it once in a while.
I fixed the offset for the 'other' material array.
Post by: Krones on March 31, 2011, 10:18:43 pm
Whenever I attempt to conntect it gives me the message, "Couldn't find a suitable process"
What is the solution to this.
Chances are it is something simple.
Post by: dagger on March 31, 2011, 10:21:44 pm
Post by: Krones on March 31, 2011, 10:31:44 pm
( Your solution was used to no avail, I replaced the old memory.xml file with the new one. )
Post by: dagger on March 31, 2011, 10:42:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uEGR0.jpg)
Post by: Krones on April 01, 2011, 12:01:01 am
Does the Runesmith dir. have to be in a specific place or does it automatically find the dwarf fortress files.
And speaking of which, what file, (specificilly) does it edit.
I'm using version 0.31.21 if that makes a difference. (though I did attempt with 0.31.16)
Post by: Nibble on April 01, 2011, 02:57:26 am
Post by: dagger on April 01, 2011, 07:57:37 am
Post by: Krones on April 01, 2011, 11:37:00 am
Thanks for the help!
Post by: Truean on April 01, 2011, 11:51:04 am
I realize it takes time to find offsets and to update. That's not a problem; I just wanted to be clear.
Thank you.
Post by: dagger on April 01, 2011, 03:06:20 pm
Runesmith is not yet updated, but it uses a file from dfhack anyway that IS updated. :)
So you can use the Runesmith version found on the first page of this thread if you grab the updated xml file that was posted on a few posts up. It will work with DF version 0.31.25 which is the latest version.
Post by: Steele on April 01, 2011, 04:20:18 pm
Post by: Truean on April 01, 2011, 05:13:05 pm
Yes just start a few posts back....
Runesmith is not yet updated, but it uses a file from dfhack anyway that IS updated. :)
So you can use the Runesmith version found on the first page of this thread if you grab the updated xml file that was posted on a few posts up. It will work with DF version 0.31.25 which is the latest version.
:o So it.... It could be updated but isn't and you can sorta work around it? K.
I guess I'll go looking for this "few posts up." :)
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on April 01, 2011, 06:02:11 pm
Works Perfect! To clarify, look for the exact .xml file someone posted a link to, don't go grabbing a copy of DF hack and looking for the file. Remember to do the rename mentioned above.Well, I wish I could test Runesmith directly. But, try this file instead: https://github.com/peterix/dfhack/raw/bbf64a1614ca8ffddca889cd60da4c3d0d25fa77/Memory.xml
EDIT: meh... okay doesn't work perfectly, but it will get the job done. MIght need to restart it once in a while.
I fixed the offset for the 'other' material array.
Post by: Shandra on April 07, 2011, 03:45:13 pm
If changing a trait (well, aside the gender problem) - what value will that trait get? Or is just the description changed and the value for that trait stays unchanged? That ones of particular interest to me, as I always use for my embark and 1st migrant waves a modified creature_standard where all traits are set for my dorfs and those are using ranges that are not the default ones.
Edit: Ok, I mixed up attributes and traits - for the traits the modding doesn't change the ranges in question... but still I am wondering about the value ;)
Post by: mud074 on April 09, 2011, 11:23:40 pm
Works Perfect! To clarify, look for the exact .xml file someone posted a link to, don't go grabbing a copy of DF hack and looking for the file. Remember to do the rename mentioned above.Well, I wish I could test Runesmith directly. But, try this file instead: https://github.com/peterix/dfhack/raw/bbf64a1614ca8ffddca889cd60da4c3d0d25fa77/Memory.xml
EDIT: meh... okay doesn't work perfectly, but it will get the job done. MIght need to restart it once in a while.
I fixed the offset for the 'other' material array.
I deleted all the stuff in the file then replaced it with the stuff in the link and it still doesn't work. Is it because I am running genesis?
Post by: Chunderminer on April 10, 2011, 12:39:58 am
Post by: BigD145 on April 10, 2011, 11:13:04 am
Alright, I'm running DF 31.21 and I just downloaded the latest version of Runesmith (compatible with 31.21). However, I cannot seem to get Runesmith to connect to DF. The utility will load without any errors, but it does not read the dwarfs or creatures in the game so I can't make any alterations. Any suggestions?
Operating system? Running either DF or Runesmith inside zip file? AntiVirus? You're not giving much info here....
Post by: Eldrick Tobin on April 12, 2011, 03:06:07 pm
Sometime In The Future... an update to the Shiny Nuke Button that removes the siege flags as well.
Whimsical Section:
Setting things like TRAINED_WAR, and a given entity's birthday.
Post by: bertieb on April 12, 2011, 03:13:45 pm
Feature Request: (Sensible Section)
Sometime In The Future... an update to the Shiny Nuke Button that removes the siege flags as well.
This would be quite handy. Is there a way to do it manually currently?
Post by: Puresowns on April 12, 2011, 08:14:26 pm
Having the same problem, running Windows 7, neither set of files are zipped, and are in different folders on my desktop. I am using Norton, but it isn't alerting me to any "threats" so I am assuming it is not interfering.Alright, I'm running DF 31.21 and I just downloaded the latest version of Runesmith (compatible with 31.21). However, I cannot seem to get Runesmith to connect to DF. The utility will load without any errors, but it does not read the dwarfs or creatures in the game so I can't make any alterations. Any suggestions?
Operating system? Running either DF or Runesmith inside zip file? AntiVirus? You're not giving much info here....
Post by: BigD145 on April 12, 2011, 08:27:24 pm
Post by: Puresowns on April 12, 2011, 10:14:40 pm
Post by: Eldrick Tobin on April 13, 2011, 12:30:33 am
Feature Request: (Sensible Section)
Sometime In The Future... an update to the Shiny Nuke Button that removes the siege flags as well.
This would be quite handy. Is there a way to do it manually currently?
You have to unset the following:
Active Invader (sets if they are just about the invade, as Currently Invading removes this one)
Hidden Ambusher (Just in Case, however it is still set when an Active Invader)
Hidden in Ambush (Just in Case, however it is still set when an Active Invader, until discovery)
Incoming
Invader -Fleeing/Leaving
Currently Invading
To Grease Them:
Dead (sets them to dead and removes them from the map. if you miss-click and save... just unset and save and poof life.)
Killed (Seems to just remove the upper torso... which being out of game isn't totally fatal x.X they'll just stay on the map... from the waist down.)
Per creature invading.
In order to test this someone would have to have something like the Fortress Defense Mod. I have a BROKEN siege currently... not QUITE sure which siege plastered the SIEGE banner for all time. Good Luck anyone who tries this.
Post by: BigD145 on April 13, 2011, 10:38:57 am
Post by: GC1CEO on April 13, 2011, 12:17:06 pm
I.E will hitting genocide on a goblin completely eliminate the possibility of goblin ambushes/sieges?
And if so, can it be reversed *whistles innocently*?
Post by: MaximumZero on April 13, 2011, 10:44:29 pm
Post by: knaveofstaves on April 14, 2011, 12:43:43 am
I'm pretty sure the racial averages for empathy and social awareness are 1000, they report the same levels in Thoughts and Preferences at the same numbers as the other 1000 racial average attributes. Are they... special in some way I'm not aware of? TIA for the education if so...
Post by: jaxy15 on April 14, 2011, 10:48:53 am
About time I can reclaim my precious fort.
Post by: Flying Dice on April 18, 2011, 04:12:15 pm
Post by: Randomonioum on April 22, 2011, 01:54:40 pm
Post by: Exlo on April 22, 2011, 02:40:41 pm
Whenever I try to use this I get an error telling me it "Couldn't find a suitable process." Any ideas how to fix this?
I think that means your version of Runesmith isn't compatible with your version of Dwarf Fortress. Runesmith hasn't been updated to 0.31.25 yet, but a few posts/pages up you'll find they were talking about a quick fix to make it compatible with .25.
Post by: wlerin on May 01, 2011, 11:59:07 pm
Giving them breathing problems usually works to kill them properly.Didn't do anything when I tried it.
Try just turning off the "Currently Invading" flag. If you've already killed them and want to remove the siege flag, Show Dead, then remove the Currently Invading flags from all members of the siege. I think.
edit: Then turn off Active Invader to get them to flee.
Post by: sizeak on May 03, 2011, 08:04:00 am
Post by: sizeak on May 03, 2011, 08:40:06 am
Post by: BigD145 on May 03, 2011, 10:32:36 am
Post by: MaximumZero on May 03, 2011, 10:48:00 am
Boom, update
Boom! Tough actin' Tinactin!
Post by: peterix on May 03, 2011, 11:13:54 am
Does this mean the seige tag is properly addressed?This is the thing about the real world: magic doesn't happen. However, let me describe how I ended a perpetual siege.
Ingredients:
* one former invader goblin in a cage.
Instructions:
* Find said goblin. Clear its 'caged' flag and 'fleeing invader' flag, possibly set the 'invader' tag. (exact naming may vary)
Results:
Goblin is out of the cage and acts as an agressive invader. It gets killed/captured/etc, most probably ending the siege.
Post by: Angel Of Death on May 06, 2011, 10:30:34 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on May 07, 2011, 12:24:51 am
Post by: sizeak on May 07, 2011, 01:31:58 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on May 08, 2011, 04:09:12 pm
Post by: AVE on May 10, 2011, 10:49:40 am
Post by: Eldrick Tobin on May 10, 2011, 11:25:18 pm
Well I've had a few ghosts. Saw the first one and jotted into memory the name, then looked in the civilian list and sure enough there they were. They -and others- were listed in Runesmith as "having trouble breathing", so I then set them to killed and dead. Whoosh they poofed off the screen and finally stayed dead.
When testing something like this it greatly helps when you HATE the civ you're working on , and so regularly they die (relocating demons via replicating x y z coords can help) and you refuse to bury them (magma pits are fantastic for this. bury you? bury what? *whoosh goes the corpse* bury WHAT? be useful haunt someone and kill them), or slab/memorialize them (slabs are for sculture gardens where the animals won't stay in pens because they have to come urinate on the statues in front of their masters/people who might become their masters (or something... stay in the damned pen)).
Post by: Montauk on May 15, 2011, 12:56:32 pm
Post by: Truean on May 15, 2011, 04:30:11 pm
Also if I can raise him, will that stop the friends from going nuts about him dying?
Post by: notfood on May 15, 2011, 08:26:06 pm
Can I run this under Linux with wine?
Post by: peterix on May 15, 2011, 08:36:20 pm
Hello,Well, I sure can... it's a bit slower than I'd like, but it runs.
Can I run this under Linux with wine?
Post by: Eldrick Tobin on May 16, 2011, 12:05:31 am
Why do changes to happiness get reset directly after unpausing the game? It's a bit annoying right now - hope you can help :(
Because whatever is upsetting them is still upsetting them. Sometimes you can slowly keep someone from going too far into the lands of sorrow, but it is often better to try to solve the unhappiness. Checking the individuals thoughts page might help.
Post by: Naros on May 30, 2011, 07:02:18 pm
Changelogs are a very handy tool for users, to help them decide whether to upgrade or not, and it also sates their curiosity. <3
Post by: Thundercraft on June 04, 2011, 04:17:30 am
When I'm using the "Labours" tab to adjust the labors of my dwarves and I click the [Remove Labour] button, it will only remove the labor at the top of the list. It does not matter which labor in the list is highlighted, it will always remove the one from the top. As you can imagine, this can get tedious, like when I only want to remove one or two labors near the bottom of a long list and I would basically have to erase all the labors and add them back one-by-one (excluding the ones that I actually wanted to delete). Also, it can be difficult to remember all the labors the dwarf had so I can add them back.
Another bug I noticed was that when I click the [Add Labour] button and, changing my mind, I click the [Cancel] button. (The need for this happens more often than you might think.) Doing that causes an error message box to appear with a "Could not add labour!" message and the [OK] button must be clicked before anything else is permitted.
BTW: The "Labours" tab would be so much more usable if it was made like the [Flags] tab, with a long list of options (i.e., labors that are either enabled or disabled). Instead of the current bugged system, clicking on check boxes to enable/disable labours would be of tremendous help!
Finally, another bug I noticed was in the "Traits" tab. Specifically, after I double-click on a trait to adjust the value and I choose a value, then when I switch to a different dwarf and then switch back, I see that the list of Traits in the tab now has duplicates. It shows both the old Trait value and the modified Trait value. However, this is a minor issue because after saving the changes and viewing again, it consolidates the Traits and leaves only the new changes.
BTW: Is it at all possible to allow users a [Remove Trait] button? It would be so nice to be able to remove certain Traits entirely from certain dwarves.
Post by: Sir Leonard III on June 09, 2011, 03:54:11 pm
But it's problem just my old computer or whatever. :P
Post by: Victuz on June 13, 2011, 10:52:32 am
Post by: Mr. Dwarfinton on June 13, 2011, 10:56:14 am
Post by: sizeak on June 13, 2011, 11:16:36 am
Post by: Victuz on June 14, 2011, 07:45:26 am
Quick question. Is there any way to make mood setting work in this version? TBH it's pretty much the only thing I'd like to use runesmith for (sure having 10000 attributes on your miners is kinda funny but it gets boring quick xP)
Bump? :P. Can anyone tell me if there is any way to make moods work?
Post by: sizeak on June 14, 2011, 07:48:22 am
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2011, 08:04:13 pm
the only downside is sometimes it doesn't work.
EVER. It never works for me. it works for NEARLY EVERYONE ELSE! WHY ME!? WHY DOES ARMOK PUNISH ME SO?!
Post by: sizeak on July 10, 2011, 05:59:50 am
the only downside is sometimes it doesn't work.
EVER. It never works for me. it works for NEARLY EVERYONE ELSE! WHY ME!? WHY DOES ARMOK PUNISH ME SO?!
Are you using SDL?
Post by: The Master on July 11, 2011, 07:24:55 pm
Post by: Maple1eaf on August 04, 2011, 02:50:05 am
Yeah i can't get it to start either :*( i keep getting "RSexception" and i really need to stop that tantrum spiral. shit happens when your popular miner hits the wrong rock
Post by: Merijeek on August 06, 2011, 02:44:23 pm
I can see how to modify skill levels, but how do I just plain add a skill to one of my peons?
Post by: Fredd on August 06, 2011, 03:02:39 pm
Post by: Greiger on August 06, 2011, 03:07:55 pm
What should be a simple question...
I can see how to modify skill levels, but how do I just plain add a skill to one of my peons?
I don't think adding skills is possible sadly. I'm not the guy who made this but I seem to recall that the issue is that it can only modify existing memory locations. It's a major technical problem inherent to memory editing itself, and how Dwarf Fortress stores skill data.
Adding a new skill would require the program to set aside a new area of memory, which even if it did work, Dwarf Fortress would not recognize it because it didn't set aside the memory itself. If it didn't set it aside itself, it doesn't know to look for it.
Best way to add a skill is have your guy do some job or something they never did before, once. That allows them to gain one point of skill in it, and makes DF set aside the memory for the added skill, and then you turn that skill into what you want. Since DF itself set aside the space it knows there is something relevant to your creature's skills there. And once that data exists, it can be changed by runesmith.
Post by: sizeak on August 06, 2011, 04:49:27 pm
What should be a simple question...
I can see how to modify skill levels, but how do I just plain add a skill to one of my peons?
I don't think adding skills is possible sadly. I'm not the guy who made this but I seem to recall that the issue is that it can only modify existing memory locations. It's a major technical problem inherent to memory editing itself, and how Dwarf Fortress stores skill data.
Adding a new skill would require the program to set aside a new area of memory, which even if it did work, Dwarf Fortress would not recognize it because it didn't set aside the memory itself. If it didn't set it aside itself, it doesn't know to look for it.
Best way to add a skill is have your guy do some job or something they never did before, once. That allows them to gain one point of skill in it, and makes DF set aside the memory for the added skill, and then you turn that skill into what you want. Since DF itself set aside the space it knows there is something relevant to your creature's skills there. And once that data exists, it can be changed by runesmith.
+1
Post by: Maple1eaf on August 06, 2011, 11:30:00 pm
Maple, what OS are you using?
Thanks for the reply, I'm using Windows 7
Post by: Savolainen5 on August 07, 2011, 12:35:44 am
Post by: Rumrusher on August 07, 2011, 01:36:29 am
I'd like to use Runesmith to kill a dwarf AND produce a body. Is this possible and how? I feel like I've tried all the health-related tags, and making the target hostile just leads to its killer becoming an enemy of the civilisation and group it itself is a part of.Well you could teleport the dwarf to a high area and have it fall to it's doom.
Post by: Savolainen5 on August 07, 2011, 02:06:07 am
Post by: Rumrusher on August 07, 2011, 03:16:42 am
Close enough. Thanks! I'm amazed that the tags like Drowning, Gutted, Trouble Breathing don't cause death quickly...well those just place them on a timer, gutted doesn't kill.
Post by: dravus on August 17, 2011, 05:05:51 pm
I'm using 31.18 SDL on windows XP if it helps....and I downloaded the newest version of Runesmith
the error it continues to throw up with "RSexception"
any help you or anyone else on the forum can give would be very helpful
Post by: sizeak on August 17, 2011, 06:10:52 pm
Sizeak I'm having a bit of an issue getting Runesmith to work
I'm using 31.18 SDL on windows XP if it helps....and I downloaded the newest version of Runesmith
the error it continues to throw up with "RSexception"
any help you or anyone else on the forum can give would be very helpful
I haven't tested this, but it could be that .18 is one of the versions that isn't fully supported by DFHack (I don't remember tbh but I had a quick glance at the xml and it doesn't seem complete). When toady does lots of fast releases, the short lived versions only get basic support, while the versions that are around longer get better support since there's longer to find offsets before a new version appears. Runesmith requires quite a lot of offsets and as such usually only works with these longer lived versions. Try updating to .25 and copying your saves over (should work fine) and see if that helps;
Post by: dravus on August 18, 2011, 01:19:14 am
I also have a dislike for the changes that were made post 31.18....thusly I stay on that version
I guess I'll have to write the offsets myself >.>
Post by: sizeak on August 18, 2011, 06:26:56 am
Post by: dravus on August 18, 2011, 02:37:24 pm
I gave up since there wasn't anything I could see as being wrong with the memory.xml file.....I used DFHack's offset finder to try and fill in the gaps but didn't get anywhere
Post by: sizeak on August 18, 2011, 04:51:41 pm
Post by: UristMcHuman on August 19, 2011, 02:15:46 pm
2) Is it a .zip file?
3) How the HELL do I use it? It looks confuzzling.
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2011, 04:38:32 pm
1) Will Runesmith work with DF v0.31.24, and two other mods (Civilization Forge and Wanderer's Friend)?
2) Is it a .zip file?
3) How the HELL do I use it? It looks confuzzling.
1) No idea about those mods
2) Yeah it's a zip file containing the exe and required dll's plus a quick guide
3) read the quick start :)
Post by: UristMcHuman on August 19, 2011, 04:41:18 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 19, 2011, 04:48:11 pm
Post by: BigD145 on August 19, 2011, 09:01:37 pm
Post by: Steele on August 19, 2011, 09:30:07 pm
I've used Runesmith with Genesis and MixMod. You just have to use the creatures tab and try to find your own folks as they won't be dwarfs unless you play dwarf.
Click Options -> Set Main Race and enter the race name of whatever creature you're playing as.
Post by: BigD145 on August 19, 2011, 11:04:53 pm
I've used Runesmith with Genesis and MixMod. You just have to use the creatures tab and try to find your own folks as they won't be dwarfs unless you play dwarf.
Click Options -> Set Main Race and enter the race name of whatever creature you're playing as.
Even better.
Post by: peskyninja on August 21, 2011, 06:14:00 am
LOL reply number 1200.
Post by: Thoranius on August 25, 2011, 08:56:50 am
It seems the teleport tool can have a couple bad consequences.
One is teleporting an invader, it will sometimes prevent the invader tag from being handled properly when said creature is caged after a teleport (and alas, removing the offending creature from the creature list with the delete/vanish options does not alleviate this)
Another is when teleporting any creature for any reason, it seems to have a chance of failing to toggle the creature occupied flag for a tile to the off position when the creature is teleported from the tile.
Using the mood tab to turn off a mood for me appears to work initially, the mood flags disappear and the dwarf goes back to work as normal, however, when the normal "I couldn't make my aritifact, so I'm going to go insane on y'all" timer expires, the unmooded dwarf goes loony as if he/she had failed the mood normally.
Still a great tool, even with these bugs. Although the endless siege from the invader tag bug can be a pain, as can trying to build around the spots where the occupancy tag is messed up (still searching for tile tools to fix that problem manually)
Post by: Rumrusher on August 25, 2011, 09:21:05 am
Just a couple minor bugfix suggestions.I made a command for Dfusion that cleans up those Occupancy tags spots.
It seems the teleport tool can have a couple bad consequences.
One is teleporting an invader, it will sometimes prevent the invader tag from being handled properly when said creature is caged after a teleport (and alas, removing the offending creature from the creature list with the delete/vanish options does not alleviate this)
Another is when teleporting any creature for any reason, it seems to have a chance of failing to toggle the creature occupied flag for a tile to the off position when the creature is teleported from the tile.
Using the mood tab to turn off a mood for me appears to work initially, the mood flags disappear and the dwarf goes back to work as normal, however, when the normal "I couldn't make my aritifact, so I'm going to go insane on y'all" timer expires, the unmooded dwarf goes loony as if he/she had failed the mood normally.
Still a great tool, even with these bugs. Although the endless siege from the invader tag bug can be a pain, as can trying to build around the spots where the occupancy tag is messed up (still searching for tile tools to fix that problem manually)
though endless Sieges seem to only happen with Runesmith folks and could be easily avoided if you just buff up one militia/demon and send him into the attacking army.
Post by: UristMcHuman on August 25, 2011, 10:19:38 am
So wait, I can change my starting race?I've used Runesmith with Genesis and MixMod. You just have to use the creatures tab and try to find your own folks as they won't be dwarfs unless you play dwarf.
Click Options -> Set Main Race and enter the race name of whatever creature you're playing as.
Post by: dree12 on August 26, 2011, 02:36:14 pm
No, that just organizes the whatever creatures in the "Dwarves" tab.So wait, I can change my starting race?I've used Runesmith with Genesis and MixMod. You just have to use the creatures tab and try to find your own folks as they won't be dwarfs unless you play dwarf.
Click Options -> Set Main Race and enter the race name of whatever creature you're playing as.
Post by: UristMcHuman on August 30, 2011, 03:09:41 pm
Oh.No, that just organizes the whatever creatures in the "Dwarves" tab.So wait, I can change my starting race?I've used Runesmith with Genesis and MixMod. You just have to use the creatures tab and try to find your own folks as they won't be dwarfs unless you play dwarf.
Click Options -> Set Main Race and enter the race name of whatever creature you're playing as.
Is this a .ZIP file?
What does this utility do exactly? I've never used a utility before.
Post by: sizeak on August 30, 2011, 05:16:53 pm
Post by: Yendor on August 30, 2011, 07:52:52 pm
Post by: UristMcHuman on August 30, 2011, 08:17:58 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on August 30, 2011, 08:39:49 pm
Post by: dree12 on August 31, 2011, 02:50:01 pm
I think the flags options don't work. I wanted to make some random gator 'tame' and I clicked the 'tame' flag, I go back to my game, and the gator doesn't have the word 'tame' in blue after the gator's creature name. What gives?Click "Save"?
Post by: Bates on September 01, 2011, 06:07:32 pm
It doesn't seem to be working?
I tried to search this topic for any info about it, but couldn't find anything...
Post by: Rumrusher on September 01, 2011, 06:19:45 pm
I think?
Post by: sizeak on September 02, 2011, 06:34:47 am
Post by: sizeak on September 05, 2011, 03:43:03 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on September 05, 2011, 03:55:51 pm
Because I like having a universal runesmith but also want those who want the dfhack console connection to not feel alienated.
Post by: sizeak on September 05, 2011, 05:28:33 pm
is there a option to select both?
Because I like having a universal runesmith but also want those who want the dfhack console connection to not feel alienated.
Added it, though I'm not sure what the console version would look like. Nor do I have any idea on time frames :)
Post by: Kaelem Gaen on September 12, 2011, 12:37:42 pm
Post by: DeadRed88 on September 24, 2011, 10:46:59 pm
Post by: BigD145 on September 24, 2011, 11:08:58 pm
Is there a particular reason turning on moods is not recommended? I don't really feel like scanning through all 82 pages to figure it out. That feature is the one I'm interested in above all. I need some artifacts. :)
Dwarfs can get stuck in various ways that lead to !fun!. You'll be
Post by: DeadRed88 on September 25, 2011, 12:43:58 am
So is there a single reliable way, utility or otherwise, to force moods?Is there a particular reason turning on moods is not recommended? I don't really feel like scanning through all 82 pages to figure it out. That feature is the one I'm interested in above all. I need some artifacts. :)
Dwarfs can get stuck in various ways that lead to !fun!. You'll beunlucky if they only starve to death.
Post by: peterix on September 25, 2011, 07:10:10 am
So is there a single reliable way, utility or otherwise, to force moods?No. It needs a lot of research.
Post by: James009 on October 01, 2011, 02:44:08 pm
Thanks!
Post by: Rumrusher on October 01, 2011, 09:47:22 pm
Post by: zilpin on October 06, 2011, 12:09:29 pm
I'd be happy to try and fix it... if source code were available.
Post by: grendelfreak on October 08, 2011, 02:20:42 am
Post by: grendelfreak on October 09, 2011, 01:26:13 am
I would love an answer to the above as my efforts on a human diplomat (stripping him of diplomat flags then adding tame) ended up in him getting slaughtered by one of the axe-dwarfs.
Post by: Rumrusher on October 09, 2011, 02:37:18 am
Is there any way with this to turn invading/merchant elves and humans into members of the fortress, so that they can do labours, marry and reproduce with other elves/humans, so I could create a multiracial fort?remove the "is resident" flag and change their civ numbers to your own.
then boot up Dfusion(old version until Warmist gets peterix to update DFhack with the latest Dfusion corrections) and run friendship if the case maybe that they don't do tasks.
getting them to noble classes is off the table unless you run friendship first before embarking.
oh and they can't cross breed on their own with out help of third party utilities and usually the result ends up to ugly to look at there a solution to the cross breeding but that digressing from the point.
Post by: grendelfreak on October 09, 2011, 06:27:38 am
Is there any way with this to turn invading/merchant elves and humans into members of the fortress, so that they can do labours, marry and reproduce with other elves/humans, so I could create a multiracial fort?remove the "is resident" flag and change their civ numbers to your own.
then boot up Dfusion(old version until Warmist gets peterix to update DFhack with the latest Dfusion corrections) and run friendship if the case maybe that they don't do tasks.
getting them to noble classes is off the table unless you run friendship first before embarking.
oh and they can't cross breed on their own with out help of third party utilities and usually the result ends up to ugly to look at there a solution to the cross breeding but that digressing from the point.
Thanks for the reply i'll give it a crack when I have a chance. Just to clarify it isn't possible to create halfbreeds (for example human mother dwarf father) but will humans still reproduce with other humans?
Post by: sizeak on October 09, 2011, 07:31:59 am
Is there any way with this to turn invading/merchant elves and humans into members of the fortress, so that they can do labours, marry and reproduce with other elves/humans, so I could create a multiracial fort?remove the "is resident" flag and change their civ numbers to your own.
then boot up Dfusion(old version until Warmist gets peterix to update DFhack with the latest Dfusion corrections) and run friendship if the case maybe that they don't do tasks.
getting them to noble classes is off the table unless you run friendship first before embarking.
oh and they can't cross breed on their own with out help of third party utilities and usually the result ends up to ugly to look at there a solution to the cross breeding but that digressing from the point.
Thanks for helping out with questions rumrusher
Post by: Rumrusher on October 09, 2011, 03:39:42 pm
It's possible to create halfbreeds(using raws that combines both ) just that dwarf fortress will not do it for you, and you have to change the race of another to be compatible to breed.Is there any way with this to turn invading/merchant elves and humans into members of the fortress, so that they can do labours, marry and reproduce with other elves/humans, so I could create a multiracial fort?remove the "is resident" flag and change their civ numbers to your own.
then boot up Dfusion(old version until Warmist gets peterix to update DFhack with the latest Dfusion corrections) and run friendship if the case maybe that they don't do tasks.
getting them to noble classes is off the table unless you run friendship first before embarking.
oh and they can't cross breed on their own with out help of third party utilities and usually the result ends up to ugly to look at there a solution to the cross breeding but that digressing from the point.
Thanks for the reply i'll give it a crack when I have a chance. Just to clarify it isn't possible to create halfbreeds (for example human mother dwarf father) but will humans still reproduce with other humans?
a human can not simply breed with an elf for there no code to accept relationships cross breeds in fort mode but you can turn a human into a elf temperately to build that relationship and even then the child would have human and elf dna which the game can't pull heads or tails to search for either(if the mother was an elf it would be born an elf but will have human dna that is not in the elf raws which breaks the game when ever you try to look at the baby). I research on how to get past it and what I found was if you make the mother have the same detail raws as the father the child won't have much a hard time pulling information from the parents to exist.
so you need to make sure either both elf and human are the same in facial features to properly race change into and breed or make sure to have a race of half elf half human around to swap the mother into before she delivers the baby. My guess is have one caste be male human and the other be female elf and make another creature raw doing the reversal. oh and their family members won't talk about their half race family members and treat them like non-hostile night creatures quite funny though.
Post by: SugaSuga on October 09, 2011, 07:27:07 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on October 09, 2011, 10:06:10 pm
Accidently set an endless siege, how can I fix it ive gone through all the tags i think could cause it :(... help please??you auto killed entire goblin squad and now they are sending everything they got to kill you because you have the one thing that can wipe them out.
my only way to fix this is to either revive every single goblin and kill them off or revive one and hope they run off.
sizeak could adding a warning about murdering goblins with runesmith might lead to an endless sieges? seems like this is the hot topic.
Post by: Tirion on October 13, 2011, 04:28:30 am
The aim is to take my modded tigermen (pet, with innate weapons skills, trainable and already war-trained, [EQUIPS] so they come wearing large clothes but no armor, and equipping no weapon despite [HABIT_USE_ANY_MELEE_WEAPON]... shouldn't that have them make a beeline to the nearest weapons stockpile? IIRC it works fine with minotaurs where it's copied from...) actually pick up weapons and if possible shields. Bonus if they can stay conscripted into squads after being switched back from dwarf to war tigermen.
Post by: Kogut on October 16, 2011, 12:33:43 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on October 18, 2011, 12:30:11 pm
Post by: Rafal99 on October 26, 2011, 07:27:05 pm
It says "Couldn't find a suitable process." every time I try to run it. DF is running and is in fortress mode. I am using DF 0.31.25 Windows SDL version. Trying with DF 0.31.19 windows SDL gave the same error.
The earlier Runesmith version 0.1.6 worked fine.
Post by: blake77 on October 27, 2011, 12:37:23 pm
Post by: Frelus on October 27, 2011, 01:17:14 pm
When I open Runesmith and look at the skills, I can only see those the dwarf in question has points in.
Like, after embark, I can only change the grower/brewer skill at my grower/brewer.
Is it a bug or am I blind?
greetz
Post by: peterix on October 27, 2011, 01:50:55 pm
Erm, sorry if it has been answered, but it is 83 pages^^:The object that stores skill values doesn't exist until the creature has at least some skill. It is possible to reuse skill objects for different skills. Unfortunately, the version of dfhack runesmith uses is unable to actually create objects.
When I open Runesmith and look at the skills, I can only see those the dwarf in question has points in.
Like, after embark, I can only change the grower/brewer skill at my grower/brewer.
Is it a bug or am I blind?
greetz
Post by: Frelus on October 27, 2011, 01:55:56 pm
well then, how can you reuse the objects?
greetz
Post by: Rafal99 on October 27, 2011, 02:54:29 pm
Do you have the latest memory.xml . Try using the one from dfhack.
I tried raplacing Runesmith's memory.xml with that from latest DFHack, or replacing DFHack.dll, or replacing both, but Runesmith still gaves me the error no matter what. Even tried redownloading Runesmith 0.1.20, but still the same. Also I am 100% sure I am using DF 0.31.25 Windows SDL, which is said to be supported.
My OS is Windows XP SP3 32bit if it matters.
Any other ideas?
I wanted to use Runesmith to "unberserk" a dwarf that failed a mood, because my haulers were too lazy in dumping selected materials to his burrow... Without working Runesmith, I guess my military will have to unberserk him... :(
Post by: HarryFromMarydelDE on November 08, 2011, 09:26:52 am
Alternatively, is there another program that runs under Linux that can export XML files suitable for Dwarven Guidance Counselor?
-Harry
Post by: GaxkangtheUnbound on November 14, 2011, 08:52:21 pm
When I try to open Runesmith (whether it be during an open game or just the menu), it comes up with this:
error 2: Failed to open file, at row 0 col 0.
Any idea why? I've updated everything necessary.
Post by: peterix on November 14, 2011, 11:38:29 pm
Has anyone recently had this working under Linux with Wine? I am running Dwarf Fortress 31.25 for Linux, the current version of Kubuntu , and the newest Runesmith. []You can only use it with DF running in wine.
Alternatively, is there another program that runs under Linux that can export XML files suitable for Dwarven Guidance Counselor?Probably not. What do the files look like? (link to some documentation would be ideal)
I'm experiencing the weirdest error.It either can't find memory.xml or it's corrupted. Make sure you download it as a file (https://raw.github.com/peterix/dfhack/legacy/Memory.xml) (right click, save as) - copypasting out of internet explorer or other such weird apps will break it.
When I try to open Runesmith (whether it be during an open game or just the menu), it comes up with this:
error 2: Failed to open file, at row 0 col 0.
Any idea why? I've updated everything necessary.
Post by: HarryFromMarydelDE on November 15, 2011, 11:45:16 pm
Has anyone recently had this working under Linux with Wine? I am running Dwarf Fortress 31.25 for Linux, the current version of Kubuntu , and the newest Runesmith. []You can only use it with DF running in wine.
Oh well, Runesmith is out then.
Alternatively, is there another program that runs under Linux that can export XML files suitable for Dwarven Guidance Counselor?Probably not. What do the files look like? (link to some documentation would be ideal)
There is an example .xml file in the download here:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4238
-Harry
Post by: peterix on November 18, 2011, 03:51:55 am
There is an example .xml file in the download here:Awesome. It should be fairly easy to export dwarf info like this. The format is simple :)
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4238
Post by: HarryFromMarydelDE on November 19, 2011, 09:13:32 pm
I thought about writing a plugin for DFHack that would duplicate Dwarven Guidance Counselor right on the DFHack console, but I don't know DF well enough to trust that I wouldn't be giving bad advice (for that matter I am kind of taking DGC's word that it knows what it's doing).
-Harry
Post by: peregarrett on November 20, 2011, 04:02:49 am
What do such entires at labors page mean:
Quote
memory object not declared: type=labor key=94
memory object not declared: type=labor key=95
Looked at memory.xml, found this:
Code: [Select]
<Profession name="THIEF" id="94" military="false" can_assign_labors="true" />
<Profession name="STANDARD" id="95" military="false" can_assign_labors="true" />
That confuses me even more. Dwarf I'm looking at is dwarven queen arrived recently.Also, labor with key 95 also set on one of children.
And the main deal that I was looking for - is it possible to modify materinal preferences of dwarf? Because monarch lacks them and thus doesn't issue mandates...
Post by: Dame de la Licorne on December 06, 2011, 09:37:57 pm
I just downloaded Runesmith (from here (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2538)), extracted the files into a Runesmith folder located on the Windows XP virtual machine's desktop, started up the SDL version of Dwarf Fortress and have received the following error message:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/993137.png)
I am running the SDL version of DF (0.31.25) using the Parallels emulator and Windows XP. I have tried re-downloading and extracting, but haven't been able to figure out the problem. Any ideas as to how I can get this to run?
-Dame de la Licorne
Edit: FIXED, installing the XP SP3, 2005 C++ Redistributable, 2008 SP1 C++ Redistributable and 2010 C++ Redistributable (in that order) now allows me to run Runesmith! :)
Post by: Dame de la Licorne on December 07, 2011, 01:56:32 pm
So now that I have had a chance to explore this wonderful tool, I have a request to make for the next update (assuming that there will be one). Would it be possible to add an option for changing the pregnancy flag (and potentially, the time that a pregnancy lasts)?
Long explanation why:
The question came up because in my current fort, I have two female camels (one of each type) and a female musk-ox that I brought on embark, assuming that my caravans would eventually bring along some males as pack animals which would breed with the females. However, 6 years into the fort, the only pack animals that I have seen from ALL of the caravans have been horses (no donkeys, no mules, let alone the three unusual ones). So my hopes of creating camel and musk-oxen herds are pretty much nullified and I was hoping that I could "cheat" the situation with Runesmith, but I can't find a way to do so (though I do like what is included so far).
-Dame de la Licorne
Post by: VerdantSF on December 07, 2011, 02:39:16 pm
Post by: Dame de la Licorne on December 07, 2011, 10:11:57 pm
Ok, I have a question: is it possible to change a creature's race (e.g. change a horse into a type of camel)? If yes, how do I do it? If no, could that capability get added at some point?
Thanks!
-Dame de la Licorne
Post by: keyreper on December 30, 2011, 09:31:51 pm
Post by: Molay on January 03, 2012, 03:40:12 pm
Finally I can do some roleplayesque noble-tailoring, so that they suit their position. I always grumbled when I had to take nobles with bad skills. Now I can finally create those I want :) Alexander, you're fortress filled with zombie-slaves will be up soon (--> Amnesia: The dark descent) :D
Thanks again :)
Post by: Rumrusher on January 04, 2012, 08:24:42 am
Hi,you can't with this but you can with dfusion but I'm force to warn folks that doing so might lead to the game crashing unless you save after race changing the character, and even then you can't look at the creature's detail with out breaking the game. there a fix but that's more mod related and based around making identical creatures where the only difference is their name and non detail effecting raw tags.
Ok, I have a question: is it possible to change a creature's race (e.g. change a horse into a type of camel)? If yes, how do I do it? If no, could that capability get added at some point?
Thanks!
-Dame de la Licorne
Post by: stuntcock42 on January 19, 2012, 05:32:16 am
For multiracial forts, are there any issues regarding default armor sizes and non-dwarven troops? Also, when you change a unit's race, say from dwarf to human, what happens to their clothing? Does it change, too, or are dwarves and humans close enough in size to share clothes?The size of the clothing is determined by the size of its creator. Thus, dwarven smiths (and tailors) produce items appropriate for 60kg creatures, while a human would produce 70kg-baseline items. Clothing/armour cannot be shared between creatures of different sizes, although weapons can be (subject to 2-handed considerations, of course).
I haven't tried to alter a creature's race on-the-fly, but I have altered the bodysize of a caste. In my case, the creature retained its previous clothing but this state was precarious: when the soldier went off-duty and doffed his armour he was subsequently unable to re-equip it due to the size mismatch.
Depending on your circumstances, you might want to deliberately train up crafters of a particular race (e.g. exclusively human armorers), or train up a diverse group in order to produce a variety of equipment for a multiracial army. Alternatively, you could alter the raws in order to give adult humans and dwarves a common bodysize, but doing so could render much of your current equipment unusable (depending on which creature's definition you choose to modify).
I don't think that there's any way to ascertain the {bodysize} value for a piece of clothing that's simply lying around, but by using the dfhack "Set Current Race" function you can assess its size relative to various races. If you've set your race to "HUMAN" and the item name shows neither "small" nor "large", then it's the correct size for a human.
An interesting side-note: the cube-squared law (or something akin to it) takes effect when you apply this idea to non-standard creatures. For instance, a bronze breastplate made by/for a horse masses ~160kg, but the horse's strength doesn't scale up - the raw files "expect" non-humanoids to run around naked, and the numbers are balanced accordingly. Ironclad elephants are possible, but they move very slowly due to the immense weight of their armour. If the effect becomes game-breaking then you can compensate for it by boosting the creature's (or race/caste's) stats. Reducing the density of the metal is another option.
Post by: Dunamisdeos on January 22, 2012, 04:28:13 am
Post by: EngineerFromHell on February 10, 2012, 08:47:26 am
Post by: Rumrusher on February 10, 2012, 11:14:03 am
Oh, well, wrong thread, but anyway: how do I change creature's race with DFusion?if your using new dfusion then you can't until you add it in, it's originally in old dfusion in the adventure tools menu.
Post by: sizeak on February 10, 2012, 11:36:42 am
Post by: EngineerFromHell on February 10, 2012, 11:48:00 am
if your using new dfusion then you can't until you add it in, it's originally in old dfusion in the adventure tools menu.And for what option should I look in adv_tools?
Post by: Rumrusher on February 10, 2012, 12:14:54 pm
the one that says "change race".if your using new dfusion then you can't until you add it in, it's originally in old dfusion in the adventure tools menu.And for what option should I look in adv_tools?
Post by: EngineerFromHell on February 10, 2012, 12:55:27 pm
the one that says "change race".Oh, well, I've found it already and forgot to edit post. By the way, I can't create squad out of non-dwarves?
Post by: Rumrusher on February 13, 2012, 11:21:01 am
the one that says "change race".Oh, well, I've found it already and forgot to edit post. By the way, I can't create squad out of non-dwarves?
You need to either race change the ones you want to make a squad out of to dwarves insert them into a squad and then change them back before they break the game, or change the race of the fort to the creature you want to stick into a squad while in the military menu then move around to refresh the list.
Or just ask Warmist to make a "any one enlist" function in Dfusion.
Post by: Nega on February 14, 2012, 04:57:50 pm
Post by: sizeak on February 14, 2012, 08:10:59 pm
Post by: JinF on February 17, 2012, 07:29:31 am
Post by: Eldrick Tobin on February 17, 2012, 08:04:46 am
I'm having an annoying problem. Whenever I set the happiness of my dwarves to something, it automatically switches itself back after a few seconds. It is really annoying. Saving apparently does not make the setting permanent. This is for .25 btw. I am losing dwarves due to dumb pets dying and I cant stop it...
Part of the problem is that it's not something simple like being worked to death. With that kind of 'gripe' you can set it up in the rafters and they'll loss a tad but stay mostly on the up and up. Right up Runesmith's alley.
Traumatic Loss is like a syndrome... sits on them for a while bringing them down. Even a spontaneous party popping up might not improve things. You could try plopping some high grade furniture in their rooms or a new facy statue in a common area to try to lighten the mood.
Post by: JinF on February 17, 2012, 08:38:17 am
Post by: mithosaurion on February 17, 2012, 10:50:36 am
Post by: jetex1911 on February 18, 2012, 10:00:41 am
Post by: sizeak on February 20, 2012, 12:33:20 pm
Post by: neo1096 on February 21, 2012, 04:42:44 pm
Post by: Yaotzin on February 21, 2012, 04:59:00 pm
GL with your dissertation.
Post by: sizeak on February 21, 2012, 05:34:28 pm
I miss this too. Most as it allows me to use the guidance counselor tool. When you update it can you fix the export thing to actually listen to what you select? :p
GL with your dissertation.
It doesn't? Hmm
Post by: Intrinsic on February 22, 2012, 04:03:32 am
Post by: Yaotzin on February 22, 2012, 04:42:45 am
Post by: sizeak on February 22, 2012, 10:36:11 am
No I mean it exports every stat no matter what you select.
Yeah I got that
Post by: the_game_hunt on February 22, 2012, 08:08:18 pm
Im not being rude btw, im just being a little direct :P
Post by: sizeak on February 22, 2012, 10:15:09 pm
In more depth, this is because I'm not looking for the offsets required myself and am not currently fixing bugs. This is because I have a dissertation to finish, on top of a lot of other work. When/If all the offsets are found, people should be able to drop the updated xml file from DFHack in (old format, I think it was changed) and go, or it wouldn't take me long to update then (like minutes). Bug fixes will be a minimum of 5 weeks I imagine due to reasons stated above. New features aren't being developed because I don't really play DF anymore. This may change once I've graduated and have my life back, but for now consider it feature frozen and only just maintained :D
Post by: simonthedwarf on February 23, 2012, 02:53:01 am
Post by: peterix on February 23, 2012, 03:16:28 am
Anyway, I'll have to write that generator first :)
Post by: the_game_hunt on February 23, 2012, 01:04:33 pm
EDIT: DFhack is better than ever, great job :), hopefuly runesmith gets updated
Post by: DustanH on February 24, 2012, 03:58:01 am
Post by: Kaelem Gaen on February 24, 2012, 05:02:52 pm
Even though I enjoy DFhack on occasion can you please please please still release a stand alone version, I rarely use DFhack and now everything starting to become part of DFhack which itself doesn't have a stand alone version anymore. I get that it's a great tool but please release in some other forms not everyone wants to have multiple console windows open to run a program.
DFhack still lacks a "hide the console" I tried one of the more recent versions.
So even though I voted for "Both" as I know other people like DFhack integration I'd much rather see the QT Gui version first for 34.02.
Post by: the_game_hunt on February 25, 2012, 08:57:19 am
-puts on some flame guards-
Even though I enjoy DFhack on occasion can you please please please still release a stand alone version, I rarely use DFhack and now everything starting to become part of DFhack which itself doesn't have a stand alone version anymore. I get that it's a great tool but please release in some other forms not everyone wants to have multiple console windows open to run a program.
DFhack still lacks a "hide the console" I tried one of the more recent versions.
So even though I voted for "Both" as I know other people like DFhack integration I'd much rather see the QT Gui version first for 34.02.
Wow, you red my mind, also its very useful when there is a dead walk,and you remove the necro to have fun with the zombies.
EDIT: i really need this, reanimated corpses by necros causes my game to crash, i need this tool to remove him.
Post by: dragginmaster on February 26, 2012, 08:47:21 pm
Dfhack has no gui.
Runesmith is not a console program.
Post by: peterix on February 26, 2012, 08:54:32 pm
I do not see how this could be merged with dfhack.Black magic.
Dfhack has no gui.
Runesmith is not a console program.
But really. All it needs is some work related to updating the old-style xml file...
Post by: mithosaurion on February 28, 2012, 08:00:11 pm
Post by: Morwaul on February 29, 2012, 07:14:05 pm
Post by: Intrinsic on March 01, 2012, 04:07:38 am
Post by: telamon on March 01, 2012, 05:16:07 pm
Directly, No.
In more depth, this is because I'm not looking for the offsets required myself and am not currently fixing bugs. This is because I have a dissertation to finish, on top of a lot of other work. When/If all the offsets are found, people should be able to drop the updated xml file from DFHack in (old format, I think it was changed) and go, or it wouldn't take me long to update then (like minutes). Bug fixes will be a minimum of 5 weeks I imagine due to reasons stated above. New features aren't being developed because I don't really play DF anymore. This may change once I've graduated and have my life back, but for now consider it feature frozen and only just maintained :D
^ he'll get around to it =P and in the meantime we still have DFhack itself
Post by: sayke on March 02, 2012, 12:45:51 pm
Post by: gefer8 on March 02, 2012, 10:06:59 pm
Post by: wypie on March 06, 2012, 08:40:44 pm
Post by: Intrinsic on March 07, 2012, 01:00:16 am
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=83112.msg3068424#msg3068424
Post by: Darkness on March 07, 2012, 05:02:11 am
Greets Darkness
Post by: Schizotek on March 09, 2012, 01:01:54 pm
Post by: shadus on March 10, 2012, 04:02:59 pm
Post by: Kaos on March 11, 2012, 05:27:16 pm
Whenever my military wastes 2 years in a row on biting drills....I think of this mod.never seen this, but anyway how would you fix it with RS?
Post by: MagmaSolutionsInc on March 12, 2012, 06:28:38 am
Post by: Eldrick Tobin on March 13, 2012, 12:45:51 am
Whenever my military wastes 2 years in a row on biting drills....I think of this mod.never seen this, but anyway how would you fix it with RS?
Work on them a tad, and then when they show as having the skill crank it up to 11 (or 15 or 20), and then go train something else, these dwarves are done.
Post by: RabblerouserGT on March 13, 2012, 06:21:02 am
Whenever my military wastes 2 years in a row on biting drills....I think of this mod.Hey, it should make for some interesting combat reports.
Urist McWrestler bites the rattlesnake by the neck.
Urist McWrestler trashes the rattlesnake about.
Post by: shadus on March 17, 2012, 11:05:09 am
Post by: Kogut on March 17, 2012, 11:16:14 am
Post by: thistleknot on March 17, 2012, 03:36:40 pm
Post by: telamon on March 17, 2012, 04:49:12 pm
In other words, we have the offsets for the current version, but runesmith can't use them in its current state
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2012, 04:59:07 pm
As far as I'm aware, the structure of character and unit data has changed with 0.34.x releases. The memory.xml format is no longer appropriate to describe them in detail. In other words, the current version of Runesmith has no way to interpret the offsets that currently apply to DF; a new iteration of offset xmls is needed altogether.
In other words, we have the offsets for the current version, but runesmith can't use them in its current state
According to peterix, it should be possible to update the xml from offsets found for the new system actually. I just don't have time
Post by: Quietust on March 17, 2012, 06:04:24 pm
It should be possible to write a special plugin whose sole purpose is to fetch/manipulate specific data structures ("get number of units", "get details for unit X", "set attribute X for unit Y", "set skill X for unit Y", "set/clear flag X for unit Y", etc.) and then have Runesmith talk to that plugin instead of using the old DFHack - as long as the plugin's interface stays the same (which is easy enough to ensure), it would just be a matter of including that DLL with all DFHack releases (which is just a matter of adding it to DFHack's github repository, either directly or as a submodule).
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2012, 06:23:53 pm
DFHack now supports a simple RPC system using ProtoBuf over TCP/IP (to localhost) - at the moment, it allows invoking all of the "non-interactive" plugin commands from an external application ("dfhack-run prospect all", "dfhack-run clean map snow", etc.) and probably a few other things of which I am not aware.
It should be possible to write a special plugin whose sole purpose is to fetch/manipulate specific data structures ("get number of units", "get details for unit X", "set attribute X for unit Y", "set skill X for unit Y", "set/clear flag X for unit Y", etc.) and then have Runesmith talk to that plugin instead of using the old DFHack - as long as the plugin's interface stays the same (which is easy enough to ensure), it would just be a matter of including that DLL with all DFHack releases (which is just a matter of adding it to DFHack's github repository, either directly or as a submodule).
I just don't have time
Post by: Steele on March 17, 2012, 06:27:26 pm
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2012, 06:30:00 pm
Well, maybe someone who does will come along and have a go at it.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
RS isn't open source
Post by: Quietust on March 17, 2012, 06:34:43 pm
Post by: Steele on March 17, 2012, 06:43:24 pm
Well, maybe someone who does will come along and have a go at it.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
RS isn't open source
Doesn't it just involve editing the xml(s)?
Regardless, if you no longer have any time to work on Runesmith, perhaps it's time to pass the responsibility of updating on to someone else?
Doesn't have to be open source. Sounds like a win-win to me, we get an updated Runesmith and you stop having to deal with everyone begging you to update.
Just a thought.
Post by: sizeak on March 17, 2012, 06:44:41 pm
If you're not able to do it yourself or allow somebody else to do it for you, then I guess it's just not going to happen. We might be able to write some code to automatically generate a memory.xml file for legacy tools, but there's no guarantee that DF's internals won't change enough to make it no longer possible (which is arguably already the case for stuff like zombies and skeletons).
If you read back, the reason I don't have time is because I have to hand in my final year dissertation in just over two weeks. I keep meaning to open source RS but it isn't as simple as throwing the code out there and telling people to fix it. It would take me just as long to get the source ready for release, as it would to update it myself. It will be updated, it will just be a while. Sorry
Post by: dragginmaster on March 18, 2012, 12:45:13 am
If you're not able to do it yourself or allow somebody else to do it for you, then I guess it's just not going to happen. We might be able to write some code to automatically generate a memory.xml file for legacy tools, but there's no guarantee that DF's internals won't change enough to make it no longer possible (which is arguably already the case for stuff like zombies and skeletons).
If you read back, the reason I don't have time is because I have to hand in my final year dissertation in just over two weeks. I keep meaning to open source RS but it isn't as simple as throwing the code out there and telling people to fix it. It would take me just as long to get the source ready for release, as it would to update it myself. It will be updated, it will just be a while. Sorry
Get back to work on that dissertation! Lol quicker that is done and these kids will stop foaming at the mouth for RS... Besides, by the time u r done the releases might have stabilized.
Post by: Kibstable on March 18, 2012, 06:23:51 am
DFHack now supports a simple RPC system using ProtoBuf over TCP/IP (to localhost) - at the moment,...
Wait a minute!... DF output can be sent by TCP/IP ! - does that mean that 2 dwarves in 2 separate forts can send emails to each other?
'Dear kin, today Ast and Litok were ripped apart by a minotaur but we had roast duck for tea. for the rest of the day we were hauling stuff to the depot. How was your day? :)'
Or maybe they can tweet...
'Just caught a trout! My feet got wet so I took off my socks'
Post by: telamon on March 18, 2012, 05:29:50 pm
"OMG the manager just told me to go make some metal cabinets. doesn't he know im on break?!"
"gurl i totes know what you meaaaaan"
"haay gurls! im gonna have a party in the dining room in a few days, msg if interested! <3"
"i am SO THERE! will there be booze?"
"you KNOW it, girl"
*shudder*
Post by: Schizotek on March 18, 2012, 05:33:27 pm
Post by: tahujdt on March 20, 2012, 11:31:19 pm
Post by: tahujdt on March 20, 2012, 11:33:18 pm
Post by: gefer8 on March 26, 2012, 06:43:27 pm
...
Nope :(
Post by: miauw62 on March 28, 2012, 01:02:02 pm
So the dwarven equvilent of"like" would be "+1 sock"?I bet somebody could photshop the like symbol into a sock.
On the other hand.
This is dwarf fortress
FUCK GRAPHICS!
:D
Post by: tahujdt on March 28, 2012, 09:04:37 pm
Post by: mithosaurion on April 04, 2012, 01:13:16 pm
Post by: Jonthrei on April 05, 2012, 03:42:07 am
Someday...
Post by: dragginmaster on April 05, 2012, 03:58:28 am
Post by: Jonthrei on April 05, 2012, 05:13:52 pm
Post by: kulik on April 06, 2012, 02:21:46 am
how is that thesis coming along? When is your defense?
Post by: sizeak on April 06, 2012, 11:10:00 am
Post by: kulik on April 06, 2012, 03:26:35 pm
Post by: the_game_hunt on April 07, 2012, 07:54:44 pm
GOOD LUCK!, you'll need it :P
Post by: simonthedwarf on April 10, 2012, 11:16:56 am
Post by: Stormcloudy on April 10, 2012, 12:18:32 pm
Good luck and godspeed.
Post by: Naros on April 12, 2012, 09:00:43 pm
I've gotten into the habit of setting the XP of all jobs to zero for all immigrants.
A poor habit perhaps... but one I enjoy.
Post by: wypie on April 13, 2012, 11:16:43 am
Patiently waiting for a release. :)same here I like to start all my migrants from scratch I even got rid of a legendary armor smith :(.
I've gotten into the habit of setting the XP of all jobs to zero for all immigrants.
A poor habit perhaps... but one I enjoy.
Post by: ShoesandHats on April 14, 2012, 08:42:02 pm
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on April 15, 2012, 05:43:55 pm
Post by: the_game_hunt on April 15, 2012, 06:06:57 pm
Thats why.If you're not able to do it yourself or allow somebody else to do it for you, then I guess it's just not going to happen. We might be able to write some code to automatically generate a memory.xml file for legacy tools, but there's no guarantee that DF's internals won't change enough to make it no longer possible (which is arguably already the case for stuff like zombies and skeletons).
If you read back, the reason I don't have time is because I have to hand in my final year dissertation in just over two weeks. I keep meaning to open source RS but it isn't as simple as throwing the code out there and telling people to fix it. It would take me just as long to get the source ready for release, as it would to update it myself. It will be updated, it will just be a while. Sorry
You must wait. Be considerate
Post by: ShoesandHats on April 20, 2012, 11:31:41 pm
Because I haven't bothered to update to 0.34.07, this should still work for me, but it keeps telling me that it can't find a suitable process even though DF is open and doing fine.
Still haven't gotten this answered.
And bump.
Post by: Intrinsic on April 21, 2012, 02:51:25 am
Because I haven't bothered to update to 0.34.07, this should still work for me, but it keeps telling me that it can't find a suitable process even though DF is open and doing fine.
Still haven't gotten this answered.
And bump.
If you're still using 31.25 i should do. I only even used it once to try out DGC.
Post by: ShoesandHats on April 21, 2012, 12:34:35 pm
Post by: tahujdt on April 22, 2012, 02:06:50 pm
Post by: azrael300 on April 22, 2012, 05:29:06 pm
Post by: azrael300 on April 22, 2012, 05:30:04 pm
Post by: mithosaurion on April 25, 2012, 10:04:41 am
Post by: jetex1911 on April 25, 2012, 05:12:17 pm
Post by: mithosaurion on April 30, 2012, 08:44:06 am
Post by: the_game_hunt on April 30, 2012, 04:40:21 pm
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w488/mithosaurion/1314929905892.jpg)LOL
Thats 100% true. Hopefully sizeak will be online in the next week...
Post by: malvado on May 01, 2012, 10:06:21 am
My guess is that mid may might be a good time for a new RS release.
Then Toady drops .08 and we need a new update :P
Post by: the_game_hunt on May 01, 2012, 06:56:33 pm
We sure are patient!
Sizeak said something like this on march 17: "I will finish my dissertation in 2 weeks".
Almost 2 months have passed since that and nothing have happend yet
Post by: Splint on May 01, 2012, 07:15:50 pm
I can wait though. I can wait.
Post by: the_game_hunt on May 01, 2012, 07:31:27 pm
I miss this so much :'(
Post by: Jeoshua on May 02, 2012, 07:18:21 am
It's also good to look at the stats of your Dwarves, directly, to determine which of your Haulers would be best to put on the Detailing crew (since dwarves with Creative and History personalities make the best Engravings... no cheese, more nobles)
Post by: MikaTheCrazy on May 02, 2012, 11:51:22 am
Post by: Eric Blank on May 02, 2012, 02:06:40 pm
Post by: mithosaurion on May 02, 2012, 07:15:56 pm
Post by: Triskelli on May 03, 2012, 10:48:35 am
The reason I am waiting for this utility Eric Bland, is to explore the new magic system with its help. If I remember correctly 31.25 did not have magic yet.
I doubt Runesmith will cover the new syndromes, but it would be an interesting addition. Just a quick summary of the name and the effects would probably suffice.
Post by: Rumrusher on May 04, 2012, 09:16:57 am
so you want a "raw read up on syndromes" utility?The reason I am waiting for this utility Eric Bland, is to explore the new magic system with its help. If I remember correctly 31.25 did not have magic yet.
I doubt Runesmith will cover the new syndromes, but it would be an interesting addition. Just a quick summary of the name and the effects would probably suffice.
Post by: mithosaurion on May 04, 2012, 06:14:13 pm
so you want a "raw read up on syndromes" utility?The reason I am waiting for this utility Eric Bland, is to explore the new magic system with its help. If I remember correctly 31.25 did not have magic yet.
I doubt Runesmith will cover the new syndromes, but it would be an interesting addition. Just a quick summary of the name and the effects would probably suffice.
I suppose so. Even still, runesmith tends to make !!Science!! easier to explore. I just miss the utility is all.
Post by: azrael300 on May 04, 2012, 07:02:34 pm
thank you
[edit] nvm
Post by: Jonthrei on May 07, 2012, 03:57:49 pm
Post by: telamon on May 07, 2012, 06:43:51 pm
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can anyone tell me how to make this mod compatible with the latest version of df?
with sufficient experience in lua, you can probably write dfusion plugins that replace the majority of runesmith's functionality in the meantime. i lack the experience though and I'm prioritizing other langs right now (MATLAB/haskell). it's doable, at least
Post by: mithosaurion on May 07, 2012, 10:03:59 pm
Post by: Eric Blank on May 07, 2012, 10:33:33 pm
Post by: Rumrusher on May 08, 2012, 03:46:15 am
<.< >.> I don't condone theQuotecan anyone tell me how to make this mod compatible with the latest version of df?
with sufficient experience in lua, you can probably write dfusion plugins that replace the majority of runesmith's functionality in the meantime. i lack the experience though and I'm prioritizing other langs right now (MATLAB/haskell). it's doable, at least
Code: [Select]
function tools.buffreading(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getAdv()
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
Post by: the_game_hunt on May 08, 2012, 10:14:44 pm
For what its worth, I am now kinda concerned with the well being of the utilities creator. He has not been on here in a while... maybe something happened to him?
Probably just college finals? Hopefully...Mmm, sounds bad to me, he is offline since april, nothing since then.
Maybe he is sick, or his computer blew up, or his finger is broken, only god know what happened to him...
Post by: lleu on May 09, 2012, 01:05:43 am
Post by: caddybear on May 09, 2012, 03:15:04 am
Would there be any way to get this to work with the Legends of Forlorn Realms Mod? I tried it and it said "Couldn't find a suitable process"
There is no way to get it to work with the latest versions. Read man, read!
Post by: mithosaurion on May 11, 2012, 06:16:05 am
Post by: the_game_hunt on May 11, 2012, 07:53:21 am
Until they respond, I am going to have to assume Runesmith's creator has suffered some sort of terrible fate. :'(Let's hope it isn't that terrible
Post by: bluwolfie on May 12, 2012, 12:31:14 am
Why can't he just release a source code or something?
Post by: KhaaL on May 12, 2012, 05:13:13 am
Maybe he just doesn't care about runesmith anymore?
Why can't he just release a source code or something?
I agree, with the tool opensourced these problems wouldn't have existed.
Post by: thistleknot on May 12, 2012, 08:45:29 am
Fire up cheat engine, search for a value (you'll ge ta ton), open up the memory layout .ini files in the dwarf therapist folder, look for attributes which will fall within the start memory address + attributes memory address found in dwarf therapist .ini. voila, you know where to start and end your search for attribute values (you can get it down to specify dwarves).
I hope this helps get you guys started on identifying values to modify.
Post by: Rumrusher on May 12, 2012, 09:24:44 am
Via development (working on Dwarf Therapist), i've figured out how to modify the memory values using cheat engine.well I just posted a code for dfusion for editing skills of the adventurer. just type in which skill you want to buff and how much and boom legendary cook.
Fire up cheat engine, search for a value (you'll ge ta ton), open up the memory layout .ini files in the dwarf therapist folder, look for attributes which will fall within the start memory address + attributes memory address found in dwarf therapist .ini. voila, you know where to start and end your search for attribute values (you can get it down to specify dwarves).
I hope this helps get you guys started on identifying values to modify.
Post by: mithosaurion on May 12, 2012, 01:23:06 pm
<.< >.> I don't condone theQuotecan anyone tell me how to make this mod compatible with the latest version of df?
with sufficient experience in lua, you can probably write dfusion plugins that replace the majority of runesmith's functionality in the meantime. i lack the experience though and I'm prioritizing other langs right now (MATLAB/haskell). it's doable, at leastCode: [Select]function tools.buffreading(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getAdv()
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
well okay, but how do I use this code? What do I do with it to get it to function in Dfusion? Just entering the code into the .lua file seems to be unlikely to work, so what are the specifics?
Post by: thistleknot on May 13, 2012, 10:28:44 am
Post by: mithosaurion on May 13, 2012, 01:24:30 pm
Post by: telamon on May 13, 2012, 05:15:59 pm
also, this discussion may help you with adding plugins to dfusion: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3211738#msg3211738
Post by: mithosaurion on May 13, 2012, 05:35:38 pm
as i recall, last he posted sizeak was working on his dissertation, so he's probably been quite busy. education is serious business after all
also, this discussion may help you with adding plugins to dfusion: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3211738#msg3211738
I tried following the advice on that page, but the tool does not show up in the list... :(
Post by: the_game_hunt on May 13, 2012, 05:46:55 pm
Same to meas i recall, last he posted sizeak was working on his dissertation, so he's probably been quite busy. education is serious business after all
also, this discussion may help you with adding plugins to dfusion: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3211738#msg3211738
I tried following the advice on that page, but the tool does not show up in the list... :(
Post by: TheCoolSideofthePIllow on May 14, 2012, 04:46:36 am
Post by: Splint on May 14, 2012, 04:49:45 am
Post by: Rumrusher on May 14, 2012, 07:30:37 am
Oops I forgot the<.< >.> I don't condone theQuotecan anyone tell me how to make this mod compatible with the latest version of df?
with sufficient experience in lua, you can probably write dfusion plugins that replace the majority of runesmith's functionality in the meantime. i lack the experience though and I'm prioritizing other langs right now (MATLAB/haskell). it's doable, at leastCode: [Select]function tools.buffreading(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getAdv()
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
well okay, but how do I use this code? What do I do with it to get it to function in Dfusion? Just entering the code into the .lua file seems to be unlikely to work, so what are the specifics?
Code: [Select]
tools.menu:add("Buffreading",tools.buffreading) line which which allows you to use the function.
Post by: mithosaurion on May 14, 2012, 05:58:47 pm
Oops I forgot the<.< >.> I don't condone theQuotecan anyone tell me how to make this mod compatible with the latest version of df?
with sufficient experience in lua, you can probably write dfusion plugins that replace the majority of runesmith's functionality in the meantime. i lack the experience though and I'm prioritizing other langs right now (MATLAB/haskell). it's doable, at leastCode: [Select]function tools.buffreading(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getAdv()
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
well okay, but how do I use this code? What do I do with it to get it to function in Dfusion? Just entering the code into the .lua file seems to be unlikely to work, so what are the specifics?Code: [Select]tools.menu:add("Buffreading",tools.buffreading)line which which allows you to use the function.
All i get is this in response to attempting to use it in fortress and adventure mode is this
dfusion/common.lua:262: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) stack traceback:
dfusion/init.lua:7: in function '?'
dfusion/common.lua:262: in function 'display'
dfusion/tools.plugin.lua:7: in main chunk
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
dfusion/init.lua:12: in function 'dofile'
dfusion/init.lua:45: in function 'mainmenu'
dfusion/init.lua:99: in main chunk
though on the upside, it is appearing in the tools list as option 7.
Post by: TheCoolSideofthePIllow on May 14, 2012, 10:14:36 pm
I believe this tool has an on-map genocide button.
It does not work with the latest version(s), though.
Post by: mithosaurion on May 19, 2012, 07:38:30 am
Post by: Rumrusher on May 19, 2012, 09:25:20 am
oh snap I realize it had getadv still in the code.Oops I forgot the<.< >.> I don't condone theQuotecan anyone tell me how to make this mod compatible with the latest version of df?
with sufficient experience in lua, you can probably write dfusion plugins that replace the majority of runesmith's functionality in the meantime. i lack the experience though and I'm prioritizing other langs right now (MATLAB/haskell). it's doable, at leastCode: [Select]function tools.buffreading(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getAdv()
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
well okay, but how do I use this code? What do I do with it to get it to function in Dfusion? Just entering the code into the .lua file seems to be unlikely to work, so what are the specifics?Code: [Select]tools.menu:add("Buffreading",tools.buffreading)line which which allows you to use the function.
All i get is this in response to attempting to use it in fortress and adventure mode is this
dfusion/common.lua:262: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) stack traceback:
dfusion/init.lua:7: in function '?'
dfusion/common.lua:262: in function 'display'
dfusion/tools.plugin.lua:7: in main chunk
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
dfusion/init.lua:12: in function 'dofile'
dfusion/init.lua:45: in function 'mainmenu'
dfusion/init.lua:99: in main chunk
though on the upside, it is appearing in the tools list as option 7.
Code: [Select]
function tools.buffreading(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=unit=getCreatureAtPointer() --place the x pointer on top of the creature you want to change. best use is the look pointer and not 'v'
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
endhere
Post by: Nopkar on May 21, 2012, 05:10:27 am
Post by: slaytanic on May 21, 2012, 05:22:13 am
Post by: malvado on May 21, 2012, 06:04:34 am
Only thing I know is that he was quite busy at university but that was some time ago.
It's a pitty he didnt have time to open source it.
Post by: mithosaurion on May 24, 2012, 11:20:30 am
oh snap I realize it had getadv still in the code.Oops I forgot the<.< >.> I don't condone theQuotecan anyone tell me how to make this mod compatible with the latest version of df?
with sufficient experience in lua, you can probably write dfusion plugins that replace the majority of runesmith's functionality in the meantime. i lack the experience though and I'm prioritizing other langs right now (MATLAB/haskell). it's doable, at leastCode: [Select]function tools.buffreading(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getAdv()
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
well okay, but how do I use this code? What do I do with it to get it to function in Dfusion? Just entering the code into the .lua file seems to be unlikely to work, so what are the specifics?Code: [Select]tools.menu:add("Buffreading",tools.buffreading)line which which allows you to use the function.
All i get is this in response to attempting to use it in fortress and adventure mode is this
dfusion/common.lua:262: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) stack traceback:
dfusion/init.lua:7: in function '?'
dfusion/common.lua:262: in function 'display'
dfusion/tools.plugin.lua:7: in main chunk
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
dfusion/init.lua:12: in function 'dofile'
dfusion/init.lua:45: in function 'mainmenu'
dfusion/init.lua:99: in main chunk
though on the upside, it is appearing in the tools list as option 7.Code: [Select]function tools.buffreading(unit)here
if unit==nil then
unit=unit=getCreatureAtPointer() --place the x pointer on top of the creature you want to change. best use is the look pointer and not 'v'
end
print("which skill 0-?")
B=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=93
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
I get this message (http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w488/mithosaurion/Dfusionproblem.png)
Post by: Rumrusher on May 24, 2012, 02:14:06 pm
Code: [Select]
function tools.buffanything(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getCreatureAtPointer()
end
print("which skill slot 0-?")
B=getline()
print("which skill 0-?")
C=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=C
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
tools.menu:add("Buffanything",tools.buffanything) this should do it. sorry. if it helps I'll get warmist to insert it in the next update for Dfhack.
Post by: mithosaurion on May 24, 2012, 09:42:10 pm
Code: [Select]function tools.buffanything(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getCreatureAtPointer()
end
print("which skill slot 0-?")
B=getline()
print("which skill 0-?")
C=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=C
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
tools.menu:add("Buffanything",tools.buffanything)
this should do it. sorry. if it helps I'll get warmist to insert it in the next update for Dfhack.
now i get this message... (http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w488/mithosaurion/Dfusionproblem-1.png) sorry for being such a pest... :-[
Post by: Rumrusher on May 25, 2012, 12:18:39 am
It because that error only happens if print line(where ? would be located) was botched and made dfusion think ? leads to something.
Post by: mithosaurion on May 25, 2012, 09:25:55 am
okay that shouldn't happen. Could you show me where you place the script to see what went wrong.
It because that error only happens if print line(where ? would be located) was botched and made dfusion think ? leads to something.
Nevermind... I figured it out. I had the tools.menu:add("Buffanything",tools.buffanything) line above the code for the tool itself...
Now I just need to figure out which skills correspond to which number! :D
Post by: zeta0z on May 25, 2012, 09:57:46 am
But can u help me?, I'm a bit stuck at getting the tools into dfusion like mithosaurion did (which in this case he put the tools at number 7). How to do that?
Do I have to put the script in .txt. or .lua and put in dfusion folder?
And is there anyways that I can get a specific coordinate from the in-game cursor in x,y,z? I'm making my own teleporting tools..
Or maybe is there anyways that I can select the unit then transport it to the next coordinate under the cursor without knowing the first nor second coordinate before (so I dont have to do unit.pos.x=.... and so...)?
Post by: mithosaurion on May 25, 2012, 10:06:44 am
Post by: zeta0z on May 25, 2012, 10:31:29 am
It won't save...
Post by: vjek on May 25, 2012, 10:37:00 am
First, elevate_physical.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3311169#msg3311169) to adjust physical attributes.
Second, elevate_mental.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to adjust mental attributes.
Third, brainwash.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to "fix" personality issues.
Ah, the things I do to get a perfect mayor, eh? :)
Anyway, I hope those are useful to those pining for Runesmith. Any and all of those three scripts can be trivially modified to make adjustments more to your liking, if you wish. If you don't understand how to use them, PM me or post here and I'll explain further.
Post by: Dimrill on May 26, 2012, 05:12:31 pm
I used to use Runesmith for such emergencies, but I understand the lovely author is in the final phases of Uni study (good luck by the way). Yes, I am a dirty big cheaty cheat.
*gets down on knees in hope*
Post by: Hamek McEisenfaust on May 26, 2012, 06:29:10 pm
Just wanted to mention, in light of the lack of Runesmith updates, I went ahead and made three dfhack lua scripts that replicate three functions I used in Runesmith.Will these only function with the newest release of DF? i have not jumped feet first into .10 YET, as i still have a fortress im currently building in .07 and would like to see it complete prior to making the jump to the latest version..... also, im kinda twitchy as there isnt a LNP for .10 yet which i use religiously. Thanks
First, elevate_physical.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3311169#msg3311169) to adjust physical attributes.
Second, elevate_mental.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to adjust mental attributes.
Third, brainwash.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to "fix" personality issues.
Ah, the things I do to get a perfect mayor, eh? :)
Anyway, I hope those are useful to those pining for Runesmith. Any and all of those three scripts can be trivially modified to make adjustments more to your liking, if you wish. If you don't understand how to use them, PM me or post here and I'll explain further.
Post by: vjek on May 26, 2012, 10:49:49 pm
Post by: vjek on May 26, 2012, 10:53:37 pm
Hi there guys, forum newb here asking for a little help. I've got a clump of dirty big demons banging on my lower door looking dead menacing and murderous and I'm quite eager for them to drop dead all of a sudden and not kill my precious dorfs to a smeary paste. Is there any way I can use an .lua to hover the cursor over them and make the pain go away? I've been using the above scripts by vjek to excellent effect so far.If you're looking for a script to kill whatever is under the target, that should be relatively easy to do. It may even just be one or two status flags, which are pretty simple to toggle. I'll look into it monday or tuesday, if someone else hasn't by then. However, if you posted in the dfhack thread with a request for "I would like a script that kills whatever is under the cursor" (heck there may already be something contributed that does that) you may get a response faster.
I used to use Runesmith for such emergencies, but I understand the lovely author is in the final phases of Uni study (good luck by the way). Yes, I am a dirty big cheaty cheat.
*gets down on knees in hope*
Post by: Tierre on May 28, 2012, 04:54:39 am
Post by: Dimrill on May 28, 2012, 06:51:31 am
Post by: Tierre on May 28, 2012, 06:58:57 am
Post by: Rumrusher on May 28, 2012, 07:12:17 am
DFHack has a kill under cursor command as i believe anyway:) bt wfor those cheaty bastarts like me using scripts from vjek (thanks a lot for them btw) - maximum stats are a little bit over 34500 - if you put more it will go to negative value (btw Runesmith managed to give me 60000 for some reason in 31.25 times).why have a kill command when you can convert them.
Have a huge wild creature in the area just use some script to tame and enlist them to the military.
Post by: Tierre on May 28, 2012, 07:34:48 am
DFHack has a kill under cursor command as i believe anyway:) bt wfor those cheaty bastarts like me using scripts from vjek (thanks a lot for them btw) - maximum stats are a little bit over 34500 - if you put more it will go to negative value (btw Runesmith managed to give me 60000 for some reason in 31.25 times).why have a kill command when you can convert them.
Have a huge wild creature in the area just use some script to tame and enlist them to the military.
Well first of all a script to save for that kind of thing would be good if you have any:) And second - kill is for KILL:) Then you want it dead and butchered:)
Post by: Dimrill on May 29, 2012, 04:41:32 am
Post by: vjek on May 29, 2012, 09:18:24 am
Nope, can't find the kill command in dfhack. Do you have a fancy plugin installed for it? There's "die" but of course that's just used to stop the Dwarf Fortress process without saving.
This post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3327091#msg3327091) may have what you need.
In particular....
unit=dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit()
unit.flags1.dead=true
which, when I just tried it in 34.10, killed a dwarf instantly, and removed the corpse, too. This may or may not work on undead, but it would appear to be a step in the right direction.
Post by: Dimrill on May 29, 2012, 09:40:15 am
Post by: mithosaurion on May 29, 2012, 01:10:34 pm
Code: [Select]function tools.buffanything(unit)
if unit==nil then
unit=getCreatureAtPointer()
end
print("which skill slot 0-?")
B=getline()
print("which skill 0-?")
C=getline()
print("How much?")
r=getline()
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].id=C
unit.status.souls[0].skills[0+B].rating=r
end
tools.menu:add("Buffanything",tools.buffanything)
this should do it. sorry. if it helps I'll get warmist to insert it in the next update for Dfhack.
using this command I have discovered that Shield User is skill number 45, Armor User is 46, and Swordsdwarf is 39. I wish I knew what Dodging was but that is about all I have come up with.
Post by: daxp on May 29, 2012, 01:56:48 pm
Post by: vjek on May 30, 2012, 12:15:15 am
I wrote this up today (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3329064#msg3329064), which again, may be useful to the Runesmith audience.
It's a script, similar to the previous three, that allows you to target a dwarf in game, run the script with a single argument, and it will give you legendary proficiency in whatever skill you specify. Same method as before, save the make_legendary.lua in ~\df_34_10_win\hack\scripts\ , then you can use it easily.
So if you want a legendary miner, target your favorite Urist, switch to dfhack, type make_legendary MINER and voila, you have a legendary miner! If you want to see what skills are available, you can type make_legendary list and it will display them all.
Post by: Dimrill on May 30, 2012, 10:52:00 am
Post by: peterix on May 31, 2012, 11:46:48 am
This is *dangerous* to use. It can end up causing the siege status to get stuck if you use it on invaders. Generally, it's better to encase creatures in obsidian (which can be done with the liquids command). This is also why DFHack doesn't have a kill command - it's just too easy to get that stuff wrong.Nope, can't find the kill command in dfhack. Do you have a fancy plugin installed for it? There's "die" but of course that's just used to stop the Dwarf Fortress process without saving.
This post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3327091#msg3327091) may have what you need.
In particular....
unit=dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit()
unit.flags1.dead=true
which, when I just tried it in 34.10, killed a dwarf instantly, and removed the corpse, too. This may or may not work on undead, but it would appear to be a step in the right direction.
Post by: Tierre on June 01, 2012, 03:48:27 am
Post by: Rumrusher on June 01, 2012, 04:55:25 am
Well then just surround enemies with obsidian walls and then pop some magma from above:)or just use tame, and slaughter and you get dwarves dragging goblins to butcher shops.
Post by: Tierre on June 01, 2012, 06:45:04 am
Butchering gobbos is dwarfy.... though magma is more dwarfy - but your dwarfes never did it themselves... so butchering is more dwarfy:):):)Well then just surround enemies with obsidian walls and then pop some magma from above:)or just use tame, and slaughter and you get dwarves dragging goblins to butcher shops.
Post by: Dimrill on June 01, 2012, 08:57:31 pm
This is *dangerous* to use. It can end up causing the siege status to get stuck if you use it on invaders. Generally, it's better to encase creatures in obsidian (which can be done with the liquids command). This is also why DFHack doesn't have a kill command - it's just too easy to get that stuff wrong.Nope, can't find the kill command in dfhack. Do you have a fancy plugin installed for it? There's "die" but of course that's just used to stop the Dwarf Fortress process without saving.
This post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3327091#msg3327091) may have what you need.
In particular....
unit=dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit()
unit.flags1.dead=true
which, when I just tried it in 34.10, killed a dwarf instantly, and removed the corpse, too. This may or may not work on undead, but it would appear to be a step in the right direction.
Why didn't I think of that? Egg and my face are in alignment.
Post by: mithosaurion on June 06, 2012, 01:33:57 pm
Post by: tahujdt on June 06, 2012, 03:04:13 pm
I am beginning to believe that my theory about the grizzly fate of sizeak is correct. How long has it been since he posted?
Quote from: The Profile of sizeak
Last Active: April 06, 2012, 11:10:00 amDoes that answer your question?
Post by: AVE on June 06, 2012, 03:49:56 pm
Please respect this.
Post by: Lord Inquisitor on June 13, 2012, 02:17:12 pm
assuming this tool is dead and if so anything similiar that allows me to see mess with dead dwarfs and NPCs?
Post by: magmaholic on June 14, 2012, 01:32:17 am
Post by: malvado on June 14, 2012, 03:25:39 am
how to get it work on 34.11?
Currently impossible.
Author needs to update the program , but he has been offline for a few months now, No idea if he is still around.
Post by: caddybear on June 14, 2012, 03:33:27 am
Post by: Tierre on June 14, 2012, 04:54:15 am
Post by: Castamere on June 14, 2012, 12:32:46 pm
Post by: Jonthrei on June 16, 2012, 07:12:50 pm
Post by: dagger on June 16, 2012, 07:40:29 pm
Post by: vjek on June 17, 2012, 03:16:10 pm
Do have any other tools that allow us to edit stats on the fly?
From two pages back, in this thread...
Just wanted to mention, in light of the lack of Runesmith updates, I went ahead and made three dfhack lua scripts that replicate three functions I used in Runesmith.
First, elevate_physical.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3311169#msg3311169) to adjust physical attributes.
Second, elevate_mental.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to adjust mental attributes.
Third, brainwash.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to "fix" personality issues.
Ah, the things I do to get a perfect mayor, eh? :)
Anyway, I hope those are useful to those pining for Runesmith. Any and all of those three scripts can be trivially modified to make adjustments more to your liking, if you wish. If you don't understand how to use them, PM me or post here and I'll explain further.
and the latest make_legendary.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3336195;topicseen#msg3336195) along with the original (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3329064#msg3329064).
If that's what you meant by 'edit stats'...
These scripts are easy to modify, so if they don't do exactly what you want, you should be able to cut & paste your way to glory.
Post by: dagger on June 17, 2012, 11:51:53 pm
Post by: Intrinsic on June 18, 2012, 02:32:51 am
Do have any other tools that allow us to edit stats on the fly?
From two pages back, in this thread...Just wanted to mention, in light of the lack of Runesmith updates, I went ahead and made three dfhack lua scripts that replicate three functions I used in Runesmith.
First, elevate_physical.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3311169#msg3311169) to adjust physical attributes.
Second, elevate_mental.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to adjust mental attributes.
Third, brainwash.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to "fix" personality issues.
Ah, the things I do to get a perfect mayor, eh? :)
Anyway, I hope those are useful to those pining for Runesmith. Any and all of those three scripts can be trivially modified to make adjustments more to your liking, if you wish. If you don't understand how to use them, PM me or post here and I'll explain further.
and the latest make_legendary.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3336195;topicseen#msg3336195) along with the original (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3329064#msg3329064).
If that's what you meant by 'edit stats'...
These scripts are easy to modify, so if they don't do exactly what you want, you should be able to cut & paste your way to glory.
There needs to be some kind of central repository for all these scripts floating, as it stands they are spread throughout many different threads and all but a few get to see them. Like fixfat for example to fix the fat person bug which slows the game down.
And as for the original request, JDwarf (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=110671.0) is a cross platform replacement for RS.
Post by: thistleknot on June 24, 2012, 10:53:01 am
He should have passed the work to someone.
He said finals originally, I know for a fact finals have been over for more than a month.
Post by: slaytanic on June 26, 2012, 03:16:42 am
@ VJEK I included those scripts in that last LazyNewbPack update thing I posted right before LucasUp updated it but I couldn't remember where I got them to add a Credit to:Do have any other tools that allow us to edit stats on the fly?
From two pages back, in this thread...Just wanted to mention, in light of the lack of Runesmith updates, I went ahead and made three dfhack lua scripts that replicate three functions I used in Runesmith.
First, elevate_physical.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3311169#msg3311169) to adjust physical attributes.
Second, elevate_mental.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to adjust mental attributes.
Third, brainwash.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3312922#msg3312922) to "fix" personality issues.
Ah, the things I do to get a perfect mayor, eh? :)
Anyway, I hope those are useful to those pining for Runesmith. Any and all of those three scripts can be trivially modified to make adjustments more to your liking, if you wish. If you don't understand how to use them, PM me or post here and I'll explain further.
and the latest make_legendary.lua (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3336195;topicseen#msg3336195) along with the original (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=91166.msg3329064#msg3329064).
If that's what you meant by 'edit stats'...
These scripts are easy to modify, so if they don't do exactly what you want, you should be able to cut & paste your way to glory.
There needs to be some kind of central repository for all these scripts floating, as it stands they are spread throughout many different threads and all but a few get to see them. Like fixfat for example to fix the fat person bug which slows the game down.
And as for the original request, JDwarf (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=110671.0) is a cross platform replacement for RS.
sorry about that. but I use them all the time. Whats the scoop on this Jdwarf thing ? is it any good ? haven't had a chance to review it.
Post by: Tierre on June 26, 2012, 03:33:08 am
Post by: sizeak on June 27, 2012, 02:56:23 am
Yes I've finished Uni and am awaiting my results, however after Uni comes work and I have a new job. I guess that's not really an excuse. I haven't actually played DF in a very long time but I'll see if I cant fit some RS work in somewhere soon. DFHack has changed quite a lot since RS was last updated and that's one of the big reasons I haven't attempted an update yet as the next version will require significant amounts of rewriting; it may as well be RS 2.0.
It's also not that easy to "pass it off to someone else" since there is basically no documentation and very little in the way of code comments. So before anyone else could even attempt to work on it and hope to achieve anything quickly, I would need to significantly clean up the code and put together some docs. This has actually been on my to-do list for over a year :/ RS is also cross platform as it's entirely Qt, however the offsets for Linux were pretty much never complete so it was impossible to release a working Linux build. I don't know what the state of offset finding is these days atm.
So the summary is, I just woke up and have to work soon, but I'll apply some brain power to this after work and at least get a better idea of how much work is needed.
-Sizeak
ps. I'm back ;D
PPS. You can thank tahujdt for triggering this spurt of activity as he(/she?) actually took the time to email me, rather than just raging
Post by: Tierre on June 27, 2012, 07:34:20 am
Post by: tahujdt on June 27, 2012, 06:06:20 pm
PPS. You can thank tahujdt for triggering this spurt of activity as he(/she?) actually took the time to email me, rather than just raging
Awww, you noticed! I didn't see a reply, but maybe I missed it.
Post by: killerx243 on June 28, 2012, 05:17:02 am
Welcome back.
Post by: jetex1911 on June 28, 2012, 07:42:26 am
Post by: sizeak on June 28, 2012, 12:36:02 pm
PPS. You can thank tahujdt for triggering this spurt of activity as he(/she?) actually took the time to email me, rather than just raging
Awww, you noticed! I didn't see a reply, but maybe I missed it.
I think I just posted here instead
Post by: sizeak on June 28, 2012, 12:36:24 pm
You really know how to make an entrance. Wait long enough the rage of losing RS turns into missing RS and then come back and make everyone happy. :P
Welcome back.
You should see my cape >_>
Post by: vjek on June 28, 2012, 03:28:05 pm
... There needs to be some kind of central repository for all these scripts floating, as it stands they are spread throughout many different threads and all but a few get to see them. ...Done! Mine are here (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/User:Vjek) now.
... @ VJEK I included those scripts in that last LazyNewbPack update thing I posted right before LucasUp updated it but I couldn't remember where I got them to add a Credit to:Glad to hear people are using them. I will do my best to keep them up to date.
sorry about that. but I use them all the time. ...
Welcome back, sizeak! :D
Post by: killerx243 on June 28, 2012, 09:27:24 pm
You really know how to make an entrance. Wait long enough the rage of losing RS turns into missing RS and then come back and make everyone happy. :P
Welcome back.
You should see my cape >_>
I don't understand... I'm sorry if I offended you (didn't mean to in any remote way).
Post by: Hugo_The_Dwarf on June 28, 2012, 09:34:45 pm
Post by: Tierre on June 29, 2012, 03:10:55 am
But ofc it could be a erally good function. Though repairing functionality of making slabs is better. But Toady has his own schedule:)
Post by: sizeak on June 29, 2012, 04:29:24 am
You really know how to make an entrance. Wait long enough the rage of losing RS turns into missing RS and then come back and make everyone happy. :P
Welcome back.
You should see my cape >_>
I don't understand... I'm sorry if I offended you (didn't mean to in any remote way).
DW, It was a joke :)
Post by: malvado on June 29, 2012, 02:56:43 pm
Would be kewl if some way was found to keep updating the program to current versions of DF without you to have to do any manual work (or somehow keep an version compatible over as long a time as possible) or make it doable manually by the user in some way (Integrated help file or bundle of utilities to update the offsets).
Post by: Zanzetkuken The Great on June 29, 2012, 07:39:22 pm
Post by: Hugo_The_Dwarf on June 30, 2012, 01:55:08 am
Why not make a slab Hugo?:)haha slabs take space, sometimes space is something I lack :P like when all miners are dead and their picks out in hostile lands. Ghosts tend to get the survivors, Plus random migrants shouldn't need slabs. Only my important dwarves require slabs for their deeds.
But ofc it could be a erally good function. Though repairing functionality of making slabs is better. But Toady has his own schedule:)
Post by: sizeak on June 30, 2012, 06:58:22 am
Post by: TekDragon on June 30, 2012, 08:28:41 pm
So, speaking for those hundreds, I'd like to thank you for coming back and taking a look at your project. Runesmith is a huge part of what makes DF fun for me. I know it's a big project and I appreciate the hard work you've put in it in the past, and I hope you find the time and energy in your busy life to keep the project updated for years to come.
Please consider grabbing a PayPal account. I'd gladly contribute what I can as a thank you for your hard work.
Post by: Findulidas on July 01, 2012, 07:30:02 am
Please consider grabbing a PayPal account. I'd gladly contribute what I can as a thank you for your hard work.
I couldnt agree more, I would send money if I wasnt a poor as fuck student who needs his money to scrape by.
Post by: sizeak on July 01, 2012, 08:35:48 am
Please consider grabbing a PayPal account. I'd gladly contribute what I can as a thank you for your hard work.
I couldnt agree more, I would send money if I wasnt a poor as fuck student who needs his money to scrape by.
I know that feeling! Well I have PayPal, the reason I don't currently accept donations is because then I would have an obligation to support RS properly, with regular updates and documentation and maybe even testing lol. It's a mixture of not being able to guarantee that I could meet the increased obligation and not wanting the extra responsibility. I'll consider it if I make good progress etc. on the updates.
Post by: BigD145 on July 01, 2012, 12:44:03 pm
Please consider grabbing a PayPal account. I'd gladly contribute what I can as a thank you for your hard work.
I couldnt agree more, I would send money if I wasnt a poor as fuck student who needs his money to scrape by.
I know that feeling! Well I have PayPal, the reason I don't currently accept donations is because then I would have an obligation to support RS properly, with regular updates and documentation and maybe even testing lol. It's a mixture of not being able to guarantee that I could meet the increased obligation and not wanting the extra responsibility. I'll consider it if I make good progress etc. on the updates.
How about this then: Anyone that wants to donate to you should donate to Toady in your name and you dictate art or story?
Post by: killerx243 on July 02, 2012, 12:55:06 am
Please consider grabbing a PayPal account. I'd gladly contribute what I can as a thank you for your hard work.
I couldnt agree more, I would send money if I wasnt a poor as fuck student who needs his money to scrape by.
I know that feeling! Well I have PayPal, the reason I don't currently accept donations is because then I would have an obligation to support RS properly, with regular updates and documentation and maybe even testing lol. It's a mixture of not being able to guarantee that I could meet the increased obligation and not wanting the extra responsibility. I'll consider it if I make good progress etc. on the updates.
How about this then: Anyone that wants to donate to you should donate to Toady in your name and you dictate art or story?
I like that idea.
Post by: sizeak on July 02, 2012, 12:23:17 pm
Post by: Foffy123 on July 03, 2012, 11:12:39 am
Post by: Eric Blank on July 04, 2012, 05:13:11 pm
Post by: Nyalathoteps_Cousin on July 05, 2012, 08:28:15 am
Post by: Tierre on July 05, 2012, 08:52:42 am
Post by: sizeak on July 05, 2012, 12:36:26 pm
Post by: Foffy123 on July 06, 2012, 06:27:42 pm
Post by: Mchccjg12 on July 07, 2012, 12:31:37 am
Too bad it isn't compatible with 34.11. :'(
Post by: caddybear on July 07, 2012, 07:36:59 am
Post by: jasonwill2 on July 07, 2012, 03:06:03 pm
Post by: mithosaurion on July 10, 2012, 05:19:32 pm
Post by: Kingsdragon on July 12, 2012, 06:14:02 am
Post by: HavingPhun on July 12, 2012, 08:57:32 am
Post by: sizeak on July 12, 2012, 01:27:59 pm
Well it says on the first page that you can update runsmith yourself by switching out the memory.xml that df hack has with the one runesmith has. But I don't think that df hack has one. I looked around and could not find it.
It used to when Runesmith first came out. DFHack has changed a lot since then.
Post by: HavingPhun on July 12, 2012, 02:42:06 pm
Post by: Tierre on July 12, 2012, 04:12:05 pm
Post by: peterix on July 12, 2012, 05:33:30 pm
There were no such thing in RS back then. And i think it is very difficult to make it now... How will you even locate it?https://github.com/peterix/df-structures/blob/master/df.units.xml#L671
DFHack did change a lot since we actually needed the Memory.xml file for offsets. The rough equivalent of that file references the roots of DF's data structures. Rest is generated data structure descriptions. Said simply: there is nothing to locate ;)
Post by: killerx243 on July 20, 2012, 11:33:34 am
Post by: Tierre on July 21, 2012, 02:02:44 pm
Post by: killerx243 on July 23, 2012, 08:07:55 pm
Post by: sizeak on July 24, 2012, 03:31:26 am
Post by: killerx243 on July 24, 2012, 11:24:11 am
Post by: peterix on July 24, 2012, 02:22:36 pm
I haven't really been putting time into this tbh, it might be time I looked for someone to take over the project.I'll be more than happy to do so, as long as I can open-source it. The goal would be to have a good (and useful) example of how to actually use the new DFHack remote API.
Post by: malvado on July 24, 2012, 02:40:19 pm
Throwing the torch over to someone else sounds like a good thing if the author can't work more on it or does not have time or the interest for it anymore.
Anyway thanks a lot Sizeak for the Runesmith and the time you have dedicated to it.
Post by: killerx243 on July 25, 2012, 10:53:07 am
Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs)
Post by: Foffy123 on July 28, 2012, 11:02:22 am
Post by: Kaelem Gaen on July 28, 2012, 06:42:43 pm
Post by: LightlySpartan on July 28, 2012, 08:08:18 pm
Post by: SpecialCookies on July 28, 2012, 09:32:16 pm
By having these utilities packaged as a unit, authors are given a stronger sense of motivation to update each utility, else the whole thing become defunct.
..... imo.
Also - I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
Post by: Foffy123 on July 28, 2012, 11:19:32 pm
Integration of multiple external tools promotes Dwarf Fortress compatibility through updating the whole tool set as a unit as DF itself is updated - having many smaller utilities that sometimes get updated to the latest version of DF and sometimes don't results in a multitude of programs that may or may not be compatible with DF v-0.whatever.This is a very good point. I'm assuming that if RS were a part of DFHack then it would be updated at the same time everything else was. That would be pretty awesome.
By having these utilities packaged as a unit, authors are given a stronger sense of motivation to update each utility, else the whole thing become defunct.
Post by: killerx243 on July 29, 2012, 12:23:38 am
Post by: Foffy123 on July 29, 2012, 12:26:51 am
But the gui made it so incredibly easy to use, click on one of the creatures and manipulate it's flags, alliegences. I just can't see it being that easy if it was just another dfhack plugin. Would it be possible to run the gui version from dfhack? Also if it was headed by peterix I don't think we would have an issue with updates, they would naturally take a little bit longer then they used to seeing as it is more work to do. But I wouldn't mind as long as there are updates :PI think at this point it's probably Peterix or nothing, seemingly nobody else has posted.
Post by: killerx243 on July 29, 2012, 01:00:22 am
But the gui made it so incredibly easy to use, click on one of the creatures and manipulate it's flags, alliegences. I just can't see it being that easy if it was just another dfhack plugin. Would it be possible to run the gui version from dfhack? Also if it was headed by peterix I don't think we would have an issue with updates, they would naturally take a little bit longer then they used to seeing as it is more work to do. But I wouldn't mind as long as there are updates :PI think at this point it's probably Peterix or nothing, seemingly nobody else has posted.
I am not at all against Peterix taking over the project, in fact I trust him with it more then anyone else TBH. I just want to have it with a usable gui, which hopefully isn't hard if Sizeak gives him everything on RS. I may get used to a RS plugin for DFHack but I just couldn't see how it would be usable without being TheRapist stripped of job assignments and given the tools to bend wills and crush enemies (that was literally my first thought when using RS for the first time).
Post by: peterix on July 29, 2012, 02:04:39 am
RS could become a good example of how to connect external GUI tools to DF :) As a bonus, it would probably become much more resilient when it comes to DF changes.
Post by: killerx243 on July 29, 2012, 08:26:45 am
Guys, keeping the GUI as it is now and improving it *would be the point* of maintaining RS. Thing is, DFHack changed a lot since the last RS version and the way RS connects to DFHack simply has to change, because the old way just isn't there anymore. It's not an easy thing to do, especially for someone without a lot of spare time. There are no examples of how to connect to DFHack apart from some extremely simple stuff. There is no documentation.
RS could become a good example of how to connect external GUI tools to DF :) As a bonus, it would probably become much more resilient when it comes to DF changes.
You sir, are my hero.
Any news on if he is handing you the reigns?
Post by: sizeak on July 29, 2012, 01:28:42 pm
Guys, keeping the GUI as it is now and improving it *would be the point* of maintaining RS. Thing is, DFHack changed a lot since the last RS version and the way RS connects to DFHack simply has to change, because the old way just isn't there anymore. It's not an easy thing to do, especially for someone without a lot of spare time. There are no examples of how to connect to DFHack apart from some extremely simple stuff. There is no documentation.
RS could become a good example of how to connect external GUI tools to DF :) As a bonus, it would probably become much more resilient when it comes to DF changes.
You sir, are my hero.
Any news on if he is handing you the reigns?
If it is anyone, it will be peterix. We're in communication
Post by: Findulidas on August 04, 2012, 03:37:38 am
We're in communication
Sweet.
Post by: malvado on August 04, 2012, 02:02:37 pm
^_^
Post by: killerx243 on August 11, 2012, 02:43:41 pm
Glad to hear the "possible" forthcomming changes.
^_^
Me too
Post by: Mortifer on August 15, 2012, 01:10:31 pm
Post by: sizeak on August 15, 2012, 02:28:00 pm
Post by: Mortifer on August 15, 2012, 07:03:17 pm
Post by: Royal_Assassin3 on August 17, 2012, 01:08:53 pm
Post by: malvado on August 17, 2012, 06:00:14 pm
Really looking forward to when Runesmith gets updated :)
Post by: killerx243 on August 21, 2012, 08:55:09 am
Indeed!
Really looking forward to when Runesmith gets updated :)
Me too
Post by: jetex1911 on August 21, 2012, 08:58:55 am
Post by: Smashness on August 24, 2012, 06:43:07 pm
Post by: malvado on August 24, 2012, 07:06:13 pm
Could someone explain how to use this? Finally I find something that I would actually use and I don't know how to use it.
You can't use it with the last release of Dwarf Fortres (yet) , however it works fine with 31.25 if you want to give it a go.
Runesmith is a pretty awesome tool that allows you to quickly see the dwarves stats (and allows you to modify some of them as well) , it was also pretty usefull to "teleport" stuck dwarves , instant kill monsters and so on.
Personally I used it as an last resort when I was Adventuring , really usefull when you got stuck down in a pond with no exit (which is more or less solved now).
Post by: killerx243 on August 28, 2012, 01:42:00 pm
Post by: peterix on August 28, 2012, 06:52:49 pm
Any news on how progress is going?I'm busy with a different project right now. Will pick this up once I get it done.
Post by: Findulidas on September 09, 2012, 12:39:06 pm
Any news on how progress is going?I'm busy with a different project right now. Will pick this up once I get it done.
Oh well...
Which one?
Post by: Naros on September 10, 2012, 04:58:22 pm
Any news on how progress is going?I'm busy with a different project right now. Will pick this up once I get it done.
Yes please!
I'm one of those idiots that want immigrants to arrive with 0 skills. That and other features of Runesmith keep me happy. <3
Post by: killerx243 on September 18, 2012, 02:36:20 pm
And enrolling my main squad into an experimental super soldier program is kinda cool.
Post by: sizeak on September 19, 2012, 05:32:49 am
Post by: malvado on September 19, 2012, 07:42:31 am
*Dwarves ignoring build orders on some sides of an wall (Allways getting stuck on the side with no exit)
*Fixing some issues with Sieges and invaders stuck on the edge of map.
It was also easy to use, could easily show me how skills where progressing and could be used to check out how well certain skills progressed with the attrition rates and skill decay in place (I've slightly modded skill increase and decay to be more comfortable).
Post by: killerx243 on September 19, 2012, 02:17:30 pm
It all started so I could get my Dwarves mining out ~50 Z-Levels faster :D
What did you do to get them to work faster?
Post by: Gaybarowner on September 19, 2012, 02:42:59 pm
Post by: malvado on September 19, 2012, 04:39:47 pm
Keeps saying "Couldn't find a suitable process" Help :/?
Not compatible with the last release of Dwarf Fortress.
You will have to wait untill it's been updated. Work in progress ^_^
Post by: Gaybarowner on September 19, 2012, 04:59:07 pm
Post by: Foamybeard on September 20, 2012, 08:20:00 pm
I'm also just posting here so I can jump to the thread quickly.
Yeah.
Post by: fyren on September 25, 2012, 12:23:21 am
Post by: BoogieMan on September 26, 2012, 04:05:31 pm
Post by: Aerval on September 26, 2012, 04:55:18 pm
Post by: BoogieMan on September 26, 2012, 05:25:04 pm
Maybe you should read the posts of others? The answer is 4 posts above yours :)
What answer? That's it's not compatible with the current version? I know that. As I said on the download page it says:
"Updating to support new DF versions
While doing this yourself isn't recommended, for the impatient among you (I take no responsibility for any side effect and you do this at your own risk): The file Memory.xml is the same a s the one from DFHack, to update RS to use newer offsets, simply replace this file with the newest one available from the DFHack github repository. If this doesn't work it's usually because the needed offsets haven't been found for that version of DF yet."
I can find no file by that name in DFHack.
Post by: Aerval on September 26, 2012, 09:05:22 pm
The reason for all this that, as you can see on your mentioned download side, runesmith (and its download site) have not changed since early 2011. In this time an new version of df came out and, which is important for you in this case, dfhack has totally changed since. Therefor the last version supported by runesmith is .31.25.
what was the point of my last post: If you would have read the last few pages of this treat (I don't mean all 102 pages) and/or used the search function, you should have known that.
Post by: killerx243 on September 27, 2012, 12:18:29 pm
I read on the download site how to manually update it with memory.xml from DFHack. But I can find no such file? Any advice?
DFHack changed since that update method was relevant, the file won't be there.
Post by: BoogieMan on September 27, 2012, 09:30:47 pm
I read on the download site how to manually update it with memory.xml from DFHack. But I can find no such file? Any advice?
DFHack changed since that update method was relevant, the file won't be there.
Thanks! Just have to wait. Love this utility. Can't imagine playing without it. It's helped me many times with neverending sieges where I couldn't find the monster causing it, fixing dumb Dwarves who get stuck building stuff.. It goes on and on. :)
Post by: sizeak on September 28, 2012, 04:54:19 am
Post by: Gaybarowner on September 28, 2012, 07:50:47 am
Post by: killerx243 on September 28, 2012, 02:57:27 pm
Post by: malvado on October 05, 2012, 12:45:54 pm
Post by: sayke on October 05, 2012, 01:26:13 pm
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/User:Vjek
Post by: BoogieMan on October 05, 2012, 02:26:31 pm
You can use the Lua scripting aspect of DFHack to edit dwarf stats and skills reliably and easily - no Runesmith needed. These scripts are a wonderful place to start:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/User:Vjek
Many thanks!!
Post by: katwithk on October 19, 2012, 07:18:12 am
Name. Editing.
Specifically, last names. I want to be able to more easily track dwarven families and lines of heredity.
Mostly for fun and because I'm a dork (which ought to go without saying) but because I often make my leaderdwarf position hereditary, if not others.
Post by: peregarrett on October 19, 2012, 09:23:11 am
I never got to find out if it is possible with Runesmith, as I never tried to get it until this most recent version (when I learned it is out of date, lol) but there is one thing only I'm truly interested in.
Name. Editing.
Specifically, last names. I want to be able to more easily track dwarven families and lines of heredity.
Mostly for fun and because I'm a dork (which ought to go without saying) but because I often make my leaderdwarf position hereditary, if not others.
maybe that's (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=112381) what you're looking for?
Post by: kabarudonphan on October 25, 2012, 11:36:58 am
Post by: Flavio on October 25, 2012, 12:12:04 pm
Post by: katwithk on October 26, 2012, 07:34:18 am
Post by: Flavio on October 26, 2012, 07:37:10 am
Post by: SpecialCookies on October 26, 2012, 07:42:32 am
(there will undoubtedly be a flurry of bug fixes for this next release)
But hey, I'm just speculating, I have no real idea on what sizeak might be doing.
Post by: Lysabild on October 26, 2012, 11:14:48 am
Quote
Runesmith is currently undergoing a major update to work with the new DFHack system. This will probably take a while, please be patient
From the DFFD.
Post by: killerx243 on November 02, 2012, 09:04:31 am
As far as I know sizeak is working on updating it to the new version, how far the work is done I have no idea.
I thought Peterix took over?
Post by: mithosaurion on December 03, 2012, 02:24:23 am
Post by: the_game_hunt on December 05, 2012, 09:31:07 pm
He is probably doing something else...
Post by: Melzer on December 10, 2012, 01:14:13 pm
Emmm... Guys, did you know that sizeak has been offline since september 29?peterix was supposed to take over
He is probably doing something else...
Post by: peterix on December 13, 2012, 07:25:51 am
True. And then things took a different turn ~_~Emmm... Guys, did you know that sizeak has been offline since september 29?peterix was supposed to take over
He is probably doing something else...
I'll probably get back to this and dfhack sometime in late January. I'm sorry for the delays, but it just can't be done until I'm finished with other stuff... I got involved in some other projects AND I'm writing a java decompiler for my master's thesis.
Post by: vjek on December 13, 2012, 10:40:18 am
... I'm writing a java decompiler for my master's thesis.You have my deepest sympathy. 8)
Post by: Doctor_Whiteface on December 13, 2012, 11:05:39 pm
True. And then things took a different turn ~_~Oh dear sweet Christ I'll pray for you.
I'll probably get back to this and dfhack sometime in late January. I'm sorry for the delays, but it just can't be done until I'm finished with other stuff... I got involved in some other projects AND I'm writing a java decompiler for my master's thesis.
Post by: rangerplus10 on December 15, 2012, 09:29:12 am
... I'm writing a java decompiler for my master's thesis.You have my deepest sympathy. 8)
Also from me, but not because of Java, it's amazing, but because writing a decompiler cannot be easy.
Post by: zilpin on December 28, 2012, 07:39:29 pm
Post by: mithosaurion on January 20, 2013, 09:01:45 am
Post by: auswelter on January 23, 2013, 06:01:25 pm
Yes it is. It is late January. And sometime in late January is when peterix said he'd have time to start on the update. I'll be pleased if it goes quickly enough to have it out some time in February. If we were paying him to do it, we might have an excuse to be upset if it failed to meet timetables. As it is, he does it for the sheer joy of it and has generously made it available to us at no charge. Cut the man some slack!
Post by: b22 on January 29, 2013, 01:34:14 am
However auswelter, I think its obvious that I(and probably everyone else) are not upset with the developer, but rather appreciate him and his contribution so much, that we find it irreplaceable...
Post by: vjek on January 29, 2013, 10:19:31 am
Or put another way, b22, what feature were you looking for that isn't currently available in lua scripts or dfhack directly?
Post by: malvado on January 29, 2013, 11:31:06 am
User Interface.
Ease of use
Easy way to see difference between each dwarf (critter) in skills and attributes.
To just name a few.
Post by: Rumrusher on January 29, 2013, 11:39:19 am
vjek :
User Interface.
Ease of use
Easy way to see difference between each dwarf (critter) in skills and attributes.
To just name a few.
well you could take the dwarf therapist script for Dfhack then modify it to look at all critters on site, then modify them accordingly.
Post by: vjek on January 29, 2013, 12:13:31 pm
vjek :Fair enough, interface style is a personal preference.
User Interface.
Ease of use
Easy way to see difference between each dwarf (critter) in skills and attributes.
To just name a few.
However, Dwarf Therapist shows skill levels. Attributes... something like this you could use:
Spoiler: inspect_all_dwarves.lua (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: sample output (click to show/hide)
Post by: falconne on January 29, 2013, 02:30:55 pm
vjek :
User Interface.
Ease of use
Easy way to see difference between each dwarf (critter) in skills and attributes.
To just name a few.
Can't you get most, if not all of this info from Splinterz' Dwarf Therapist?
Post by: thepodger on January 30, 2013, 12:01:14 am
Those two functions in one program would be fantastic.
Post by: Gobolinno on February 04, 2013, 12:21:04 pm
vjek :
User Interface.
Ease of use
Easy way to see difference between each dwarf (critter) in skills and attributes.
To just name a few.
Can't you get most, if not all of this info from Splinterz' Dwarf Therapist?
But you can not edit any values :( , I just asked. =(
Post by: meowmix on February 05, 2013, 01:03:26 am
Therapist and whatever lets you look at things, runesmith lets you modify things directly.
Post by: vjek on February 05, 2013, 10:15:12 am
runesmith lets you edit values of skills, modify dwarf stats, mood status, mood material, stop tantrum spirals by editing happiness, reset mood on berserk, melancholy, and babbling dwarves, teleport dwarves around, kill things, kind of allowed us to heal dwarves but not very well, and it also lets us rez a dead creature or dwarf as undead.From what I've read in the dfhack thread, each of those features is available via dfhack, today. If not directly, via dfusion and other contributed scripts. It would also be a reasonably straightforward exercise to write such features yourself, meowmix, even if you were learning ruby or lua while doing so.
Therapist and whatever lets you look at things, runesmith lets you modify things directly.
But I get it, some people prefer a GUI. 8) Personally, I'm just happy to have the features, regardless of the interface.
Post by: Thundercraft on February 07, 2013, 09:15:26 am
From what I've read in the dfhack thread, each of those features is available via dfhack, today. If not directly, via dfusion and other contributed scripts. It would also be a reasonably straightforward exercise to write such features yourself, meowmix, even if you were learning ruby or lua while doing so.
But I get it, some people prefer a GUI. 8) Personally, I'm just happy to have the features, regardless of the interface.
I've read through and searched the manuals that come with DFHack. Most of those features are mentioned, such as adjusting skills, happiness, resetting moods, killing things off, and teleporting dwarves/creatures/items around. But I have not yet found a mention of how to modify a dwarf's stats. Maybe I missed something? I'll have to ask.
Post by: vjek on February 07, 2013, 10:50:49 am
Code: [Select]
unit=dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit()
unit.body.physical_attrs.STRENGTH.value=2000
would do the trick, if you're talking about physical stats.
Post by: James009 on February 07, 2013, 09:38:29 pm
But you can not edit any values :( , I just asked. =(Is there no way to edit dwarf values outside of Runesmith? I know that was the main reason I used it. That being said, not for cheating so much as for creating interesting characters in my fortress.
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Post by: malvado on March 02, 2013, 07:20:53 pm
I do use Dfhack from time to time, but I feel that I had much more control with runesmith to see what was happening to my dorfs.
Post by: peterix on April 29, 2013, 03:17:51 pm
What is the status on this Project?The status is: on the back burner.
I do use Dfhack from time to time, but I feel that I had much more control with runesmith to see what was happening to my dorfs.
Some of the stuff required to revive it is in place thanks to Japa and his work on IsoWorld - a good example on how to connect to a running DF instance and add more RPC calls. It's definitely possible to do now, with (relative) ease.
However, I'm still pretty busy. I'd be happy to help anyone who wants to pick up the project (with any details related to establishing communication between Runesmith and DFHack). Otherwise, it might still take me a month or two to get back to this.
Post by: Foamybeard on April 30, 2013, 09:41:22 am
... If I understood coding I'd offer to help. >.>
Post by: Dunamisdeos on April 30, 2013, 01:33:54 pm
Nah, take ur time. We appreciate you and your work.
Post by: Lysabild on May 01, 2013, 01:13:03 am
Post by: malvado on May 08, 2013, 06:17:14 am
Would be nice if perhaps Runesmith could cave way for a GUI for several of Dwarf Fortress utilities in DFHACK , but that is probably way to big a project.
Post by: STZao on July 09, 2013, 06:25:05 pm
Post by: Matoro on July 21, 2013, 02:31:31 am
Kind of a weird request but could someone host the most recent version on mediafire or a similar file sharing site? My work has that link blocked and I can't download it. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
http://www.mediafire.com/?t1z4a150h1ad5aa
Post by: Sharpscopes on August 30, 2013, 08:15:28 pm
Otherwise. Looks good!
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Post by: Foffy123 on August 19, 2015, 09:31:21 pm
I once remembered I didn't need to spend hours to find out how to edit my dwarfs. Those be good times. Any chance this getting updated?I am thoroughly disappointed, thanks for that one man. :'(
Post by: Morcaster on August 19, 2015, 09:40:17 pm
I once remembered I didn't need to spend hours to find out how to edit my dwarfs. Those be good times. Any chance this getting updated?I am thoroughly disappointed, thanks for that one man. :'(
Not sure what you mean. I would just like a easy way to edit dwarfs.
Post by: Foffy123 on August 20, 2015, 01:05:05 pm
Scroll up and look at Foamybeard's reply. When people reply to this topic after a long time of no replies, it will notify everyone that's following it of a new reply, hopefully (not likely) an update of some kind.I once remembered I didn't need to spend hours to find out how to edit my dwarfs. Those be good times. Any chance this getting updated?I am thoroughly disappointed, thanks for that one man. :'(
Not sure what you mean. I would just like a easy way to edit dwarfs.
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